Alternate DIY Flavoring ...

Aside from the usual liquid flavors we use such as LorAnns, TFA, Capella, FA, etc., what other lesser known ways are there to flavoring e-juices?

The above all give me minor headaches even in very minute quantities, but vendor juices do not.

Currently, unflavored is the only DIY I can do so I'm looking at other avenues.

Powder forms, concentrated lemon juices, Tabasco drops, crushed coffee beans?

What else is out there I could try?

 

I went to great length to eliminate any possibilities in respect to PG, VG, their ratios, nic-bases, different Clearos & RBAs, to the point where only the flavoring was left. In fact I add even 1 drop, any drop, of the above flavoring to a 5ml unflavored juice ... BANG! headaches 5 minutes later. I have 3 different sources of PG, 4 of VG, 8 of nic-bases to absolutely leave no stones overturned, and I'm into this well over 50 hours and over $200 in supplies to troubleshoot this issue. It makes absolutely no sense using those flavors other DIYers have used successfully for years is giving me such big troublespots.

No. At this point I'm open to anything. I'll put this on my list as an item to look into. I'm sure another 50 hours will go down until I find something what works.

I appreciate your input. Everything will be followed down until the situation resolves.

 

I have to fan out any air from opened flavor bottles ... lol ... or I'll get nauseated by the fumes.

Chinese super concentrated ... who sells them? Vendors or stores? Lots of Chinese merchants here.

I like the flavors strong, so that's all OK, it's just whatever I mentioned above nets me headaches, and of course anything much over 5% of these flavors, and I can taste them in my mouth too ... getting stuck between the teeth and I can still taste them 24 hours later. Seems they were made for a different purpose.

Tested all that too. Have over 30 - 10ml juices I made 5 weeks ago ... same deal ... headaches persists and so far anyways, have found little difference in the steeping process. Yeah, that's too bad ... the steeping issue is also one I tried this, that and any which way.

They won't tell ... lol ... trade secret I guess.

Thanks for your advices ... will also look into your suggestions.

 

Yes. I pretty much have to in order to get to the bottom of it.

Those are the avenues I'm looking into exploring. I don't have any food flavor issues, just with the DIY supplier lists mention above and whatever ingredients they use. There may be other options too, and that's why I made this thread. I'm sure I can't be the only one getting adverse results, and what solutions they have found.

I noted one of them has "Caramel Color", so it seems to me these may in fact be chemicals that simulate flavors, not anything actually derived from food. I may be wrong.

Do they? Do all of them? Are there vendors that do something else?
I haven't looked for it, but haven't seen anyone advertise whose flavors they use.

I have no VG/PG problems ... eliminated as a possibility. Carriers seem not to be an issue. And FA, like the others, also cause headaches.

 

Yes, some have alcohol in them. Some also contain caramel color and triacetin ... but it makes little difference getting headaches whether they do or they don't. I have tested all that too. The bottles don't say anywhere whether they are natural flavors or not.

Some bottles were even open-top steeped for a week to have it evaporate -- made no difference. I also don't have any adverse reactions or allergies to alcohol in general. I can sniff an open bottle of vodka without any probs.

I will look into organic flavors as well. I just got a tip on crushing up a Fisherman's Friend and mixing it in. These are the kinds of options I'm also looking at. Lots of people have gotten really innovative with cake mixes and what not, and would like to hear from them too. One way or the other I'm gonna get on top of this.

 

Thanks, will test that too. Great input. I have done the hot water thing so far, and that also has not helped things.

Comes from here: Concentrated Flavorings|Sugar Free Drink | Flavor Drops
I'm very aware of rebottlers and what not. I always try to go to the source and why I have multiple ones.

 

Transferred .2ml TFA Double R4Y to another bottle set into a pot of boiling water held by stats with lid open for about 15 minutes before the perfumy stench was finally nearly gone. Used 1 drop for 1ml (3%)... the liquid is now nearly clear, odorless and the flavor no longer gets stuck in my mouth and between the teeth. Taste is a little better too. However headaches continue. So, much improvement was noted, but something else still exists.

Thanks for the heads up ...

I had planned to look into that too. I first wanted to isolate what the problem was, then have an operating principle I can think with before I take any further steps. When I first received these flavors I thought they were disinfectant chemicals, not something one would put in his body ... lol