Am I expecting to much ?

[proimage1]

Let me explain where I'm coming from. I smoked for the past 43 years - a pack and a half a day of Marlboro Reds. I quit ONE time 25 yrs ago for 30 days and almost went out of my darn mind. I decided then, that cigarettes were the only thing holding me together. However, during that 30 days I had never had more energy and a better appetite in my entire life. I've been really thin my whole life and eating had never been a big deal to me - still isn't. During that 30 days, I gained weight, had a ton of energy, and even my skin felt different - you know, just more color and felt more alive. Of course I was a complete wreck other than that. I was in a 30 day bad mood - and my wife and kids more or less couldn't stand being around me - a trade off - I guess. At any rate - I had a bad day right at the end of that 30 days and caved - started smoking more than ever and never looked back. Since then, even the thought of quitting again would have me smoking like a chimney.

Ok - fast foward - I quit the analogs ( as you folks call them ) on New Year's Eve - so Sunday I'm once again at that infamous 30 day mark. This time, EVERYTHING is different. I'm not in a bad mood all the time. I feel like I'm very close to being over the insanity of craving a cigarette non stop, MOST of the time. I'm vaping like crazy of course almost non stop. I'm at the highest nic level I can safely be at and hitting HV mods 100% of the time.

The problem is: And I've read several recent threads about some of these things. 1.) I have absolutely no energy - I mean none at all - I feel like I could sleep all day and night - 2.) I more or less have no appetite - food - I can take it or leave it - 3.) My skin feels no different as it did way back then when I quit - during that 30 days I could almost feel the difference in my skin - it just felt more alive

The positives: 1.) I feel / know my lungs are better - I'm not constantly out of breath - a year ago my doc did say I had slight COPD --- 2.) My wife tells me she's very, very proud of me and can't believe I'm at this point and says she doesn't smell the yukky smoke on me and my breath all the time - and 3.) I guess I'm gonna start saving money - but at this point I pretty sure I'm in the hole - thanks to buying way, way to much like most of us here.

SO - am I expecting to much ? For ones that are in a similar situation that I'm in - or have been - give me some encouragement - Let me know that I'm not going through all of this in vain. I'm not saying this to be negative or trying to convince myself to start back on the cigarettes. I just want to know that I'll see some very positive changes soon !

( I read where vitaman D3 helps - I started that a couple of days ago, but so far I can't feel any change)

 

[rosesense]

I am close to one month and HAVE gained weight (not a good thing for me) but otherwise same as you. I know we need to give it time for the toxins to clear our bodies so you will start to feel better soon. I am blowing my nose like crazy, my skin is breaking out like a teenagers and I am so tired I can barely drag around.

Hang in there and report back in another month. I bet we will see a giant difference by then.

Forgot to add that I can't seem to focus at work and that is a little scary. That is what smoking for 35 years will get you.

 

[blondeambition3]

Let me explain where I'm coming from. I smoked for the past 43 years - a pack and a half a day of Marlboro Reds. I quit ONE time 25 yrs ago for 30 days and almost went out of my darn mind. I decided then, that cigarettes were the only thing holding me together. However, during that 30 days I had never had more energy and a better appetite in my entire life. I've been really thin my whole life and eating had never been a big deal to me - still isn't. During that 30 days, I gained weight, had a ton of energy, and even my skin felt different - you know, just more color and felt more alive. Of course I was a complete wreck other than that. I was in a 30 day bad mood - and my wife and kids more or less couldn't stand being around me - a trade off - I guess. At any rate - I had a bad day right at the end of that 30 days and caved - started smoking more than ever and never looked back. Since then, even the thought of quitting again would have me smoking like a chimney.

Ok - fast foward - I quit the analogs ( as you folks call them ) on New Year's Eve - so Sunday I'm once again at that infamous 30 day mark. This time, EVERYTHING is different. I'm not in a bad mood all the time. I feel like I'm very close to being over the insanity of craving a cigarette non stop, MOST of the time. I'm vaping like crazy of course almost non stop. I'm at the highest nic level I can safely be at and hitting HV Mods 100% of the time.

The problem is: And I've read several recent threads about some of these things. 1.) I have absolutely no energy - I mean none at all - I feel like I could sleep all day and night - 2.) I more or less have no appetite - food - I can take it or leave it - 3.) My skin feels no different as it did way back then when I quit - during that 30 days I could almost feel the difference in my skin - it just felt more alive

The positives: 1.) I feel / know my lungs are better - I'm not constantly out of breath - a year ago my doc did say I had slight COPD --- 2.) My wife tells me she's very, very proud of me and can't believe I'm at this point and says she doesn't smell the yukky smoke on me and my breath all the time - and 3.) I guess I'm gonna start saving money - but at this point I pretty sure I'm in the hole - thanks to buying way, way to much like most of us here.

SO - am I expecting to much ? For ones that are in a similar situation that I'm in - or have been - give me some encouragement - Let me know that I'm not going through all of this in vain. I'm not saying this to be negative or trying to convince myself to start back on the cigarettes. I just want to know that I'll see some very positive changes soon !

( I read where vitaman D3 helps - I started that a couple of days ago, but so far I can't feel any change)

Well, first off, let me CONGRATULATE you on quitting the Analogs (again!) I smoked for 27 years and quit (cold turkey) three years ago and only found e-Cigarettes & vape-ing last month (December). While I was DETERMINED never to smoke again (and I wouldn't have!) I was still (after three years!) ready to go out of my Mind, jump out of my Skin, go crazy or all of the above! I had gained almost 30 pounds and the depression was BEYOND describeable... it was either 'this' (vape-ing) or anti-depressants... so I chose 'this'...
At any rate.... you need to increase your fluid intake as Vape-ing dehydrates you.... you need to 'monitor' your nicotine intake.... try to vape no more than 10 minutes (or so) at a time and fifteen minutes (or more) between vape-ing sessions.. and GET MOVING! Walk or do any other form of exercise to get your adrenaline and Heart pumping! Get some OXYGEN in those starving cells!

You'll be OK in the long run if you just 'take it easy' on the Vape-ing (Just watch your NICOTINE consumption) and yourself. We're all addictive personalities here, and most are addicted especially to Nicotine. Unfortunately it's hard to 'know' when to take it easy. Moderation, in all things, is key.

Your Body is going through A LOT of changes (both good & bad) right now... it's being DETOXIFIED of all the POISONS years of smoking Analogs produced.. you're going to feel exhausted depressed & tired from time to time.. maybe for quite a while. The Nicotine you're getting from the eCig is only 'part' of what you're body has been accustomed to... give it time to adjust. You're not doing this in Vain.... you've made a remarkable first step to a "healthier" alternative & "healthier" you.... you'll see in time.

I wish you Luck & I hope someone more knowledgeable & eloquent than I comes along to encourage you also...

Good Luck & Happy Vape-ing!

 

[tunabubblegum]

I wish you luck, but you didnt mention if your using a PV to help you quit analogs.
If you are now vaping instead of smoking, when did you start, what kind of e-cig do you have and how much are you vaping per day?

Or, are you just considering buying a PV?

Maybe I missed something in your post.

I had quit smoking several times and always went back, even after 4 years of not smoking, I still whent back.
I did the patches each time, and it did help some, but even though I had the nic in my blood from the patch, it's the ciggie its self, the taste of the smoke, the pleasure of seeing the smoke, holding the ciggie, even lighting the ciggie with my way cool chrome Zippo was all part of it, and I missed
all that.

With e-cigs, I can have all the ritual I am used to (except my Zippo) and enjoy seeing the vapor coming out of my mouth and having the taste and buzz of nic.

I try not to put too much expectation in anything.
I dont know if this or that method is going to help me quit or not, and I dont get neurotic thinking about it.

All I can say is, for me, e-cigs have been the only thing that lets me forget about analog ciggies, so I am down to only a few analogs (2 or 3) a day. I just do not have the urge.

I did not buy a PV with the determination and hope that it would help me stop smoking. If it does, GREAT, if it doesnt, I'm not going to beat myself up over it.

The main thing is always going to be your own willpower and determination.

My Dad had smoked non-filters almost as long as I have been alive.
He just quite one day, cold turkey!!!

He smoked over a pack a day, and lived to be a ripe old age of 90, then had a massive heart attack and died.

If you are really determined, and want to quit MORE than you want to smoke, it will happen, and e-cigs are the best thing yet invented to help folks like us get over this addiction.

You will make it

 

[debook]

I think BA3 hit the nail right on the head...

In this case time is your friend. Hydration, getting the blood flowing, and letting your body adjust to this change are all important - just as important don't forget why you made this change, the money and stink are nothing compared to the damage we all did to ourselves with tobacco habits. Be encouraged that the road you are on leads to a much better place even if you're not 'feeling it' at the moment, and your 43 year habit will be broken. Keep posting and venting on this forum, that's exactly what it should allow us all to do - help each other figure this out and get the most out of vaping!

I quit on New Years as well, analog free since after almost 20 years and loving it.

 

[VaporPhreak]

Let me preface this by stating that I am NOT medical professional. I have a small amount of medical knowledge, but that is all through my own research and experiences. Ok, that said....

From what I have seen/read nicotine, being only one of the addictive things in processed tobacco, does mess with your energy levels/metabolism much the same way Caffeine does. I noticed little difference in my energy levels from when i was smoking and now that I am vaping. I did have some brief periods where I had A LOT more energy, but these were times where I had dropped my nicotine level down drastically (around 6mg range). Now the times I did this, I did have some stronger cravings. I wasnt sure what to do during these cravings and would just vape constantly and heavily till they went away. Since then I have gone back up to 24mg. Someone on this board who had that exact issue, started supplimenting with SNUS during those cravings and was able to stop them with it. My theory is that these cravings are not for nicotine... they may very well be for the other substances in the processed tobacco, most likely the MAOIs. This being said, I see 2 options. 1) Wait it out till they stop (may take a couple months) 2) Lower your nic level in the juice to say 11 - 12 mg and supliment strong cravings with a SNUS pouch. SNUS is a significantly lower risk to you than smoking, but by the same token, its still tobacco. It doesnt stink however, which is nice.

NOTE: Nicotine messing with metabolism means if also messes with your appetite.

With regards to the skin issue, try a vitamin e suppliment. Its great for the skin!
This is just my 2 cents. It may or may not work for you, but only you know if its worth a try. Peace!

 

[Mister]

I feel like I'm very close to being over the insanity of craving a cigarette non stop, MOST of the time. I'm vaping like crazy of course almost non stop. I'm at the highest nic level I can safely be at and hitting HV Mods 100% of the time.

Could you please specify the nic level you are using and how much you are vaping daily? (E.g. 36mg strength, 2ml per day.)

 

[Gools]

Dude! Almost word for word what I'm going through, except I don't feel that I can sleep all day cuz I vape ALL freaking day. I don't want to up the mg to your level, currently at 18mg, cuz I don't want to have that OD feeling. I can't stop vaping all day and all night. The first and last thing I do every day is vape. Better than smoking.....

I think we may be suffering from long term addiction or recovering from the "other" additive ingredients from analogs. Just a hunch!

Your not alone!

Gools

 

[Melwig]

No you are not expecting too much, but maybe a little too soon. I have gone through the sleepy dragging stage where I could happily have slept around the clock, and I have also gone through having so much energy that my eyes refused to close altogether.

I have been hungry and completely turned off food altogether. I have also gone through odd food cravings.

One huge advantage to PV's is that you can adjust everything about them, and for me adjusting my nic intake throughout the day according to what was going on with me and with surrounding circumstances was incredibly helpful. I could have high nic in the morning for e.g., and get down to 0mg when I was just "pacifying" while working.

The water thing is a big deal too, especially if you are looking to see positive differences in your skin; and I hate to mention it, but you were a tad younger last time you stopped, so your body probably "bounced back" that much quicker.

Just hang in there, focus on enjoying and fine tuning the vaping experience, and as time goes on you will start noticing more and more positives, some you would never have guessed.

 

[doots]

Hey Pro,

Keep it up.. It takes some time. I felt sleepy too with no energy for many months but it fades away. remember that you smoked for a long time and it takes ahile for the effects and damage to start repairing itself in your body..

All I can say to you is you are on the right path. it will get better each month.

I smoked as long as you and did a lot of damage that some may not be reversed but it isnt getting worse, thank God. So id encourage you to hang in there longer.

It will get better, I promise you.. there are stages that everyone goes through with ecgis and quitting analog use.

good luck! you can make it!

 

[doots]

Well, first off, let me CONGRATULATE you on quitting the Analogs (again!) I smoked for 27 years and quit (cold turkey) three years ago and only found e-Cigarettes & vape-ing last month (December). While I was DETERMINED never to smoke again (and I wouldn't have!) I was still (after three years!) ready to go out of my Mind, jump out of my Skin, go crazy or all of the above! I had gained almost 30 pounds and the depression was BEYOND describeable... it was either 'this' (vape-ing) or anti-depressants... so I chose 'this'...
At any rate.... you need to increase your fluid intake as Vape-ing dehydrates you.... you need to 'monitor' your nicotine intake.... try to vape no more than 10 minutes (or so) at a time and fifteen minutes (or more) between vape-ing sessions.. and GET MOVING! Walk or do any other form of exercise to get your adrenaline and Heart pumping! Get some OXYGEN in those starving cells!

You'll be OK in the long run if you just 'take it easy' on the Vape-ing (Just watch your NICOTINE consumption) and yourself. We're all addictive personalities here, and most are addicted especially to Nicotine. Unfortunately it's hard to 'know' when to take it easy. Moderation, in all things, is key.

Your Body is going through A LOT of changes (both good & bad) right now... it's being DETOXIFIED of all the POISONS years of smoking Analogs produced.. you're going to feel exhausted depressed & tired from time to time.. maybe for quite a while. The Nicotine you're getting from the eCig is only 'part' of what you're body has been accustomed to... give it time to adjust. You're not doing this in Vain.... you've made a remarkable first step to a "healthier" alternative & "healthier" you.... you'll see in time.

I wish you Luck & I hope someone more knowledgeable & eloquent than I comes along to encourage you also...

Good Luck & Happy Vape-ing!

Very good point Blonde..

Drink more liquids that you would normally..

 

[proimage1]

I am close to one month and HAVE gained weight (not a good thing for me) but otherwise same as you. I know we need to give it time for the toxins to clear our bodies so you will start to feel better soon. I am blowing my nose like crazy, my skin is breaking out like a teenagers and I am so tired I can barely drag around.

Hang in there and report back in another month. I bet we will see a giant difference by then.

Forgot to add that I can't seem to focus at work and that is a little scary. That is what smoking for 35 years will get you.

Thanks Rosesense - glad to know I'm not alone. Let's report back in a month and post results.

 

[proimage1]

Well, first off, let me CONGRATULATE you on quitting the Analogs (again!) I smoked for 27 years and quit (cold turkey) three years ago and only found e-Cigarettes & vape-ing last month (December). While I was DETERMINED never to smoke again (and I wouldn't have!) I was still (after three years!) ready to go out of my Mind, jump out of my Skin, go crazy or all of the above! I had gained almost 30 pounds and the depression was BEYOND describeable... it was either 'this' (vape-ing) or anti-depressants... so I chose 'this'...
At any rate.... you need to increase your fluid intake as Vape-ing dehydrates you.... you need to 'monitor' your nicotine intake.... try to vape no more than 10 minutes (or so) at a time and fifteen minutes (or more) between vape-ing sessions.. and GET MOVING! Walk or do any other form of exercise to get your adrenaline and Heart pumping! Get some OXYGEN in those starving cells!

You'll be OK in the long run if you just 'take it easy' on the Vape-ing (Just watch your NICOTINE consumption) and yourself. We're all addictive personalities here, and most are addicted especially to Nicotine. Unfortunately it's hard to 'know' when to take it easy. Moderation, in all things, is key.

Your Body is going through A LOT of changes (both good & bad) right now... it's being DETOXIFIED of all the POISONS years of smoking Analogs produced.. you're going to feel exhausted depressed & tired from time to time.. maybe for quite a while. The Nicotine you're getting from the eCig is only 'part' of what you're body has been accustomed to... give it time to adjust. You're not doing this in Vain.... you've made a remarkable first step to a "healthier" alternative & "healthier" you.... you'll see in time.

I wish you Luck & I hope someone more knowledgeable & eloquent than I comes along to encourage you also...

Good Luck & Happy Vape-ing!

Well - you've really given me a lot to think about and I surely appreciate that. Drinking a lot of water is something I know I need to do which I don't drink much at all - my daughter tells me that all the time - well she did, before she moved out a couple of years ago. Getting out and walking is next on our list. That's something else I know I need to do and would help get that heart going. You're right - I would imagine just about everyone here has a very additive personality - I know I do.

Thanks so much for taking the time to post and give me a lot to think about.

 

[proimage1]

I wish you luck, but you didnt mention if your using a PV to help you quit analogs.
If you are now vaping instead of smoking, when did you start, what kind of e-cig do you have and how much are you vaping per day?

Or, are you just considering buying a PV?

Maybe I missed something in your post.

I had quit smoking several times and always went back, even after 4 years of not smoking, I still whent back.
I did the patches each time, and it did help some, but even though I had the nic in my blood from the patch, it's the ciggie its self, the taste of the smoke, the pleasure of seeing the smoke, holding the ciggie, even lighting the ciggie with my way cool chrome Zippo was all part of it, and I missed
all that.

With e-cigs, I can have all the ritual I am used to (except my Zippo) and enjoy seeing the vapor coming out of my mouth and having the taste and buzz of nic.

I try not to put too much expectation in anything.
I dont know if this or that method is going to help me quit or not, and I dont get neurotic thinking about it.

All I can say is, for me, e-cigs have been the only thing that lets me forget about analog ciggies, so I am down to only a few analogs (2 or 3) a day. I just do not have the urge.

I did not buy a PV with the determination and hope that it would help me stop smoking. If it does, GREAT, if it doesnt, I'm not going to beat myself up over it.

The main thing is always going to be your own willpower and determination.

My Dad had smoked non-filters almost as long as I have been alive.
He just quite one day, cold turkey!!!

He smoked over a pack a day, and lived to be a ripe old age of 90, then had a massive heart attack and died.

If you are really determined, and want to quit MORE than you want to smoke, it will happen, and e-cigs are the best thing yet invented to help folks like us get over this addiction.

You will make it

Yep, I've been vaping for a month this Sunday - I currently use 2 - 3.7 volt PO's and 3 HV's - I"m vaping a minimum of 36mg - sometimes higher - won't get into that - but going higher than I am wouldn't be good - I'm about maxed out with that. There are times ( like an hour ago ) that I try so hard to get that all illusive throat hit - that I'll burn up an atty - that really chaps my .... - but it happens with me all to often.
The habit itself is also hard to deal with - I always went outside and sat on the porch to smoke - I never smoked inside. Now, I rarely go outside.
I always took our dogs out and walked them around the yard while I smoked. Now - they get ...... at me - because I'm ready to go in as soon as they do their business. Just last night - they said " Hey Dad, what's up making us go back in so fast - aren't we gonna walk around for a while "
Getting back to the point - thanks a ton for taking the time to post. This place is THE BEST for support.

 

[proimage1]

I think BA3 hit the nail right on the head...

In this case time is your friend. Hydration, getting the blood flowing, and letting your body adjust to this change are all important - just as important don't forget why you made this change, the money and stink are nothing compared to the damage we all did to ourselves with tobacco habits. Be encouraged that the road you are on leads to a much better place even if you're not 'feeling it' at the moment, and your 43 year habit will be broken. Keep posting and venting on this forum, that's exactly what it should allow us all to do - help each other figure this out and get the most out of vaping!

I quit on New Years as well, analog free since after almost 20 years and loving it.

WOW - great encouragement - please keep me posted on how you're doing, since we both quit on the same day. Don't worry - I'll post and vent here often - it always helps - you know, misery loves company.
Thanks buddy !

 

[proimage1]

Let me preface this by stating that I am NOT medical professional. I have a small amount of medical knowledge, but that is all through my own research and experiences. Ok, that said....

From what I have seen/read nicotine, being only one of the addictive things in processed tobacco, does mess with your energy levels/metabolism much the same way Caffeine does. I noticed little difference in my energy levels from when i was smoking and now that I am vaping. I did have some brief periods where I had A LOT more energy, but these were times where I had dropped my nicotine level down drastically (around 6mg range). Now the times I did this, I did have some stronger cravings. I wasnt sure what to do during these cravings and would just vape constantly and heavily till they went away. Since then I have gone back up to 24mg. Someone on this board who had that exact issue, started supplimenting with SNUS during those cravings and was able to stop them with it. My theory is that these cravings are not for nicotine... they may very well be for the other substances in the processed tobacco, most likely the MAOIs. This being said, I see 2 options. 1) Wait it out till they stop (may take a couple months) 2) Lower your nic level in the juice to say 11 - 12 mg and supliment strong cravings with a SNUS pouch. SNUS is a significantly lower risk to you than smoking, but by the same token, its still tobacco. It doesnt stink however, which is nice.

NOTE: Nicotine messing with metabolism means if also messes with your appetite.

With regards to the skin issue, try a vitamin e suppliment. Its great for the skin!
This is just my 2 cents. It may or may not work for you, but only you know if its worth a try. Peace!

I'll read and re-read everything you've noted here -great advice - I did buy a can of the Snuff a few weeks ago and honestly, I hated the stuff. I probably didn't give it a chance - I always just really loved smoking and everything associated with it - that's bad I know. I never smoked in public - isn't that goofy - a 50+ yr old closet smoker. I'll also get some Vit E - and see how that does. I'm at 36mg of nic juice right now - a little higher at times -won't get into that - I honestly don't think lowering it right now would work for me at all - I'm constantly trying to get a better throat hit - I've tried all the ever clear stuff - higher nic strength, etc.. I just bought some lemon concentrate an hour ago, because I read that it packs a little punch and helps - just tried that and very little results if any.

At any rate - I'm gonna hang in there as long as I can come in and vent and whine to all you good people - I'll make it. It sure helps when there are people that truly understand. My wife of 30 yrs is very proud of me, but being the nonsmoker she is - Do they really understand what we're going through - I honestly don't think there is anyway for them to. It's darn near impossible to put into words without sounding borderline crazy.

Thanks so much for all the encouragement !!!!

 

[proimage1]

Could you please specify the nic level you are using and how much you are vaping daily? (E.g. 36mg strength, 2ml per day.)

36mg and higher - at least 3 ml per day and sometimes a little more - vaping through a few 3.7 volts and a couple of HVs - a 5 and 6 volt.

 

[Brewster 59]

Dude! Almost word for word what I'm going through, except I don't feel that I can sleep all day cuz I vape ALL freaking day. I don't want to up the mg to your level, currently at 18mg, cuz I don't want to have that OD feeling. I can't stop vaping all day and all night. The first and last thing I do every day is vape. Better than smoking.....

I think we may be suffering from long term addiction or recovering from the "other" additive ingredients from analogs. Just a hunch!

Your not alone!

Gools

The thing is the tob companies have other additives in cigs and there are natural occuring chems in cigs that are not in our ejuice. For many on this site the ecig is enough to whip smoking, others are not so lucky. You are not alone, before I started using snus I would be constantley vaping and never felt satisfied I also had bouts with depression and anxiety, for me snus is the silver bullet that took care of these problems.

 

[proimage1]

Dude! Almost word for word what I'm going through, except I don't feel that I can sleep all day cuz I vape ALL freaking day. I don't want to up the mg to your level, currently at 18mg, cuz I don't want to have that OD feeling. I can't stop vaping all day and all night. The first and last thing I do every day is vape. Better than smoking.....

I think we may be suffering from long term addiction or recovering from the "other" additive ingredients from analogs. Just a hunch!

Your not alone!

Gools

You're probably right - those habits are very hard to break and I really do think there's more in cigarettes besides just the nicotine that's so addictive. Whenever I see a young kid with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth - I feel like clawing their face off - wish I had had someone claw mine off back in the day. I hope to decrease the nic level at some point - but I'm not even close to that yet.

By the way - we moved here to Florida - 20 years ago from Monroe, LA or Funroe as we used to call it. We lived on Eason Place close to 18th street - I can't remember the name of the street that Eason was off of - that's been quite a while though.

 

[proimage1]

No you are not expecting too much, but maybe a little too soon. I have gone through the sleepy dragging stage where I could happily have slept around the clock, and I have also gone through having so much energy that my eyes refused to close altogether.

I have been hungry and completely turned off food altogether. I have also gone through odd food cravings.

One huge advantage to PV's is that you can adjust everything about them, and for me adjusting my nic intake throughout the day according to what was going on with me and with surrounding circumstances was incredibly helpful. I could have high nic in the morning for e.g., and get down to 0mg when I was just "pacifying" while working.

The water thing is a big deal too, especially if you are looking to see positive differences in your skin; and I hate to mention it, but you were a tad younger last time you stopped, so your body probably "bounced back" that much quicker.

Just hang in there, focus on enjoying and fine tuning the vaping experience, and as time goes on you will start noticing more and more positives, some you would never have guessed.

Thanks buddy- great words of encouragement - and Yes, I've surely thought about the age I am now and when I quit that time for 30 days - gosh, that was 25 yrs ago and I was a mere 30 yrs old then - just a young pup. I'm gonna start drinking gallons of water and try and help flush all that crap out of my body and try and start eating healthier to - oooops - sorry, but there's no way I'm gonna turn into a health fanatic - ROFL - that would be to extreme for me - I'd loose all my friends