Am I harming my daughter
- Thread starter donnajaneindigo
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
I think you are doing exactly what I would do, keeping the major clouds for yourself and just occasionally vaping when together. Good job!
My daughter gets headaches when she's exposed to cigarette smoke. We talked about this last night while she was visiting. She noted that I was puffing away the whole time and it doesn't bother her in the least.
Very hard to say one way or the other for me personally. I've read many studies that all seem to conclude that at least on the surface vapor is much less harmful than cig smoke and that what can be measured now is trace nicotine. That being said no one will know longer term effects until, well, vaping has been around longer.
I vape the way I smoked for the most part. I don't vape around my kids, I only take a quick vape every now and then in the house if no one else is home, I don't vape in the car with anyone. IMO better safe than sorry.
I agree that vaping is much safer and second hand vapor seems to have possibly no harmful ingredients but at this stage I think it also fair to say that no one is absolutely certain either.
I vape the way I smoked for the most part. I don't vape around my kids, I only take a quick vape every now and then in the house if no one else is home, I don't vape in the car with anyone. IMO better safe than sorry.
I agree that vaping is much safer and second hand vapor seems to have possibly no harmful ingredients but at this stage I think it also fair to say that no one is absolutely certain either.
Not sure the "used in hospitals" stance helps either. I know there are treatments that include subjecting a patient to high doses of certain types of radiation but doubt the general public would benefit from being exposed to that.
Medium or long term?
If I measure the vapor you exhale, and I find no measurable amount of any toxins aside from traces of nicotine, what exactly do you think is going to change if I wait around? Do you think that if I measure what you exhale tomorrow that there will suddenly be toxins that are not present today?
There have been at least 6 university studies that I know of that have measured the potential toxins in exhaled vapor. The ONLY thing any of them found was slight traces of nicotine. That will not change in the medium or long term because toxins do not magically appear from nowhere.
There may still be some remaining questions about the safety for those of us who vape, but as far as second hand vapor goes, no legitimate study has found any trace of any toxins or carcinogens other than nicotine.
Last edited:
Say what you will, I have read these articles and studies as well..............but if I had a family member around with any condition or children; I wouldn't vape anywhere near them. Not stealth, not a little.......not at all unless they choose to vape too.
What I do to my own body, regardless if it is safe or not by anyone's conclusion, is my choice.
I am not saying that the studies are false, inaccurate and I am not arguing the validity of them either but I wouldn't subject someone to something that they didn't ask to be, especially with a medical issue unless there is a specific study on the effects of vaping with that specific condition. Just because it is shown to be safe in one application or one study doesn't necessarily prove the theory 100%. Eating chicken is safe for consumption.......when it is cooked but when it is raw, that is a different story.
What I do to my own body, regardless if it is safe or not by anyone's conclusion, is my choice.
I am not saying that the studies are false, inaccurate and I am not arguing the validity of them either but I wouldn't subject someone to something that they didn't ask to be, especially with a medical issue unless there is a specific study on the effects of vaping with that specific condition. Just because it is shown to be safe in one application or one study doesn't necessarily prove the theory 100%. Eating chicken is safe for consumption.......when it is cooked but when it is raw, that is a different story.
I can't imagine it being harmful but time will tell. I stopped smoking in the house a very long time ago but I soooooo enjoy vaping in the house and I don't feel like I am hurting anyone. Good question and gives people something to think about. Thanks for posting. Happy vaping. 
I feel as long as you continue your habits as they are, the danger to her will not be there. Seems like you are taking all the right precautions.
as it has been said here before there aren't any long term studies yet and based on the serious condition of your daughter better safe than sorry, I wouldn't do it inside the house... those are sacrifices that I would really take
Save money, save juice, get more nicotine.
My dogs are ALWAYS around me, and we all know how toxic even small concentrations of nicotine would be to them.
When I vape around them, I don't blow clouds...I draw in and hold it until my exhaled breath contains no visible vapor. Pretty certain ALL of the nicotine has been absorbed by my tissues at that point.
When around them, I feel like I actually get MORE of my beloved nicotine, whilst not using nearly as much juice/battery, etc.
My dogs are ALWAYS around me, and we all know how toxic even small concentrations of nicotine would be to them.
When I vape around them, I don't blow clouds...I draw in and hold it until my exhaled breath contains no visible vapor. Pretty certain ALL of the nicotine has been absorbed by my tissues at that point.
When around them, I feel like I actually get MORE of my beloved nicotine, whilst not using nearly as much juice/battery, etc.
Well, if we are to err on the side of caution here, I would hope that dietary caution is placed to avoid certain foods, such as eggplant/tomatoes/peppers and a few others that I can't remember... Google "nicotine in food", if you want to know and get the actual numbers. Iirc, eggplant has pretty comparable nicotine levels to second hand vape.
Personally, I think that it probably isn't a huge deal... Since it sounds like the op vapes in the same room as her daughter lightly and infrequently... Especially since from what I have been told, the body metabolizes nicotine completely in 3 hours.
Personally, I think that it probably isn't a huge deal... Since it sounds like the op vapes in the same room as her daughter lightly and infrequently... Especially since from what I have been told, the body metabolizes nicotine completely in 3 hours.
Can you provide the links to the studies please. I'd be interested to read them.
When I said medium or long term I am talking about the effects of second hand vapor on others. We simply do not know these effects and regardless of your level of snark, this doesn't change because you want it to be so. I said we do not know the effects - read that again if you like, I am not saying it's harmful or not, I am simply stating that we do not know.
Oh and thanks for the rudimentary chemistry lesson, your condescension reached new heights which was quite impressive as you set the bar high, and it made me laugh.
ETA - forgot to say that a lack of toxins does not necessarily make something safe. It surely points to being safer than something with toxins, but to state something as safe after reading 6 studies from your chair, is a leap that I personally don't feel comfortable making.
Last edited:
If anyone wonders if vaping will be included in the smoking bans, this thread should remove any doubt. How will you convince the general public that there's no danger from vapor when the people who ought to know better are worried about it.
Why should we know better?
The majority of us are not scientists, we are end users. We simply don't know - pretending otherwise just makes us less credible.
Of course I want it to be true, and all indications are that it is true - but I don't think we can say it's a fact is all I am trying to say.
Also, you don't exactly put your mouth to a fog machine and suck down all the vapor it releases. That is why I do not like when people bring up how it is used in hospital ventilation as well. It is just not the same thing...(coming from an avid vapor)
- Status
Similar threads
