An eGo-T users rant.

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MasonD

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I use the eGo-T, and find it works just fine.

:grr:[rant]:glare:

Every time someone posts a question about the eGo-T, the first few posts, and then scattered throughout the thread, are some variation of 'go buy something else'-- particularly to go buy cartos.

Hey-- I'm having trouble partitioning my hard-drive, any thoughts? 'yeah, go buy a Mac'

Hey-- my espresso machine isn't producing the steam it used to; should I go get new nozzles, or is there a way to clean them? 'yeah, go buy a regular coffee machine'

Hey-- having a bit of trouble with my radiator, how should I troubleshoot? 'yeah, go get a new engine'

While getting a pack of cartos isn't as expensive as these examples, the principle is the same, and the suggestion is about as useful as posting "first!" in the thread. Usually, when people post questions about the eGo-T, they're looking for some help, to solve the problem; not all of us have cash to just up and buy a bunch of cartos, added to the money just spent on the tank system, which we would just be throwing away (or hopefully, posting on the classifieds for sale, here...). Some people are honestly trying to make the tank system work by *gasp* choice! Some people actually want to use the tank, they're just running into the peculiarities of the system. When these problems are figured out, the eGo-T is a reliable pv.

I think the eGo-T is just fine for noobs-- with the caveat that you have to have confidence in your ability to fiddle around with something a little bit; not everyone does. I'm not just saying this just because I went with the eGo-T as a noob. There's a learning curve involved with any system, it seems, and carts are no different: over-filling with the juice in the mouth, underfilling and burning them leading to the nasty taste that hangs in the filler for a while, cleaning them and drying them properly. I will admit, there is some fiddling around to bring the eGo-T up to adequacy-- basically, it's the wick mod (much thanks to simple CJ :thumb:). Once you have that down (I find using far less ptb, and not having it be too tight, is key...), then you've learned everything there is to learn about the eGo-T (extracting and replacing the wick-plate is the main thing, so that you can dry-burn properly-- at that point, you can even drip, if you want), and can settle in with a reliable-- flavorful-- pv. The eGo-T probably isn't as flavorful as cartos or dripping a standard atty, but a bulk of that is the stock wick; when you replace it, you get much more flavor at stock resistance.

Hopefully, people do their research if they're on their own for getting their first pv, or have a vaping buddy to help them along. And often, even that isn't enough, which is evident in the fact that most of us (judging from posts... maybe there ought to be a poll on this...) got an anny-sized battery-dance-in-a-box sort of pv to start with, against all reason and advice :facepalm:. This is to say that, though there's probably a few people out there who totally bought the eGo-T on a whim with minimal research, the bulk of the people, I imagine, did some sort of leg-work before settling on the decision to get the T. So, when we post questions, we're usually looking for help, not a sales-pitch. Hopefully, one of the reasons people get the eGo-T is precisely because it allows the freedom to switch up what goes on top of the eGo battery-- that versatility is why the eGo seems to be a good system for noobs: you can figure out how you want to vape. But, for someone who decided to get the T, out of desire for it, and is running into the troubles that all T users run into, the advice to just buy something else just isn't very useful. There are enough of us around, now, who have gone through the learning curve on the T, that can actually give *gasp* helpful advice!

Almost done ranting, I promise;

One or two of the ol' carto sales-pitch is okay: maybe the op really doesn't know that cartos exist for the eGo. Sounds unlikely, but let's give that the benefit of the doubt. But, come on now! Often there's a sub-thread started in the original thread by, I imagine, people who were jaded or something, maybe by the hype around the tank system when it first came out. We all know how that goes: just look at our President. But, if someone has a problem to solve, which is actually solvable-- perhaps unbeknownst to y'all who expected a 'plug-and-play' pv, and didn't take the time to figure out how to get it into shape-- let us try to solve the problem. That's one of the missions of this forum, isn't it? I know I wouldn't've been able to quit annys with such ease, if at all, without it (it's been well over a week with no annys, and I don't even want 'em: vapor-production is far too weak!:lol: Hence, the detox phase; hence: rant.). If the op figures out that the eGo-T is too much work to figure out (I will freely admit that there is some fiddling to get it totally reliable, and some people don't like to take things apart, which is just fine), then, yes, do go get some cartos. But, it's not very helpful to have that be the first suggestion right of the bat, and then the second, and then the third: the 'go get cartos' zombies at work :facepalm:... and then the 7th, with the 8th through the 11th being a discussion about the newest, hottest carto on the market, followed by discussion about personal faves. Maybe the op just needed to fill the tank a little less than totally full, so it wicks properly from the get go-- or needed to take a few primer puffs without activating the battery, to get the wicking action going after changing tanks, ya know?

The eGo-T isn't for everyone, but just because it wasn't for you, doesn't mean that it's not bread-an’-butter for others.

Just sayin'

:vapor:[/rant]:pop:

p.s. I've read of some people using the wick from ce2's for the wick mod; kinda' wonder how well that works...
 

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I'm glad you like the tank system. For most of us, it was a complete failure. No flavor, TH, vapor production, leaking, not wicking, tasting like plastic, hard to clean, and the list goes on. It's good idea behind it but just too many issues for most people. However, vape the equipment that works best for you. That's the most important thing. If it keeps you off analogs, then it is serving its purpose. Me, I'll stick with cartomizers.
 

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Glad you found something that works for you...just because an ecig brand is more popular and well known doesn't mean it's everyone's cup of tea. I love my 510 and I got a strong burning plastic taste at first,blew the atties out a little and rinsed them every night. I just wish people would ask around first before replacing their batteries.
 

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"Go get cartos" advice is not like "spend more money" advice and is not a sales pitch. It's actually "don't waste your money" advice. I have killed about 15 eGo-T attys in just two months trying all known ways of cleaning, re-wicking etc. Make the math, please. If this works great for you, that's fine, but for many people using eGo-Ts is just waste of money. If you ask me something about eGo-Ts I most likely will be able to answer but I would end my answer with the words "but this most likely will not work, anyway, go get cartos". Should I hide this portion of my experience?
 

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For most of us, it was a complete failure.

i doubt that, and the OP is perfectly right.

The Ts are not perfect, neither are cartos. personally i like the T more than traditional Atomizers now.
everytime a new variation of a carto comes to live its hyped all over ECF, in the end there is still not a carto that could force me to stop using regular atomizers.
 
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Hey come on tmcase - the guy is entitled to have a say without being told to go somewhere else.

MasonD - say it how you see it mate. If you ruffle some feathers then good. We don't want this place getting too "cosy" do we. How awful it would be if only "SOME" people can say whatever they want.

You're right. People can speak their mind here, but in my defense, I didn't tell him to go somewhere else, I suggested because he sounded like he wasn't very happy with what he was reading here.
 

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Hang in there man. I'm a tank, carto, AND drip/atty user. I use tanks when out and about working. I use the cartos when I'm around the house working on the yard/truck/etc. or running errands, and drip when I'm sitting in the chair reading/watching TV/at the comp. They each have their perks and flaws.

I have yet to have the problems with burning out or leaking everyone else seems to have with the tanks. (I use the Volcano). Still on my first 3 tank attys, 5 months and going. Do they have the flavor of a carto or dripping? No. Do they taste like plastic to me? No. TH is fine, if not a little stronger. I suggest to everyone to CLEAN them before using them. I clean them by soaking in hot water in a cup (stir them around a bit) after a week of use, and let air dry (soak twice for new ones!). I'm rotating 3 of them, so they each have about 1 to 2 months on them total run time. I love them.

Cartos are good because they provide a much warmer flavorful vape, but to me don't last as long as a tank (which is important when you work in the field as I do), so I restrict their use to around the house, or just running around town. Not to mention filling the things is a PITA.

Dripping is by far my preference, but a tad inconvenient for mobility. So far I've only burnt 1 regular atty out, and that was by trying to "dry burn" it to clean it. I clean them using the same method as my tank attys now.

I would consider myself a heavy vaper. Go through about 5-6 ml a day. So, light use doesn't account for the longevity of my attys. I'm not sure what does, other than regular cleaning and not letting them get dry. If I can help in any way with your tank, feel free to drop a PM my way. I'll help if I can.
 

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I went thru about 5 Ego-T attys ($50 worth) before I figured out how to use them. & I vape mostly VG which will make the attys hotter faster (sinus infections & laryngitis from using 100% PG).

In general:

1. Use the ego-t type B attys & tanks they seem more reliable.

2. Dont pry off the bottom ever to refill. I've been using a syringe & never took the bottoms off. I am thinking this is keeping me from the leaks that I had before, when I did pull off the bottom. The night before, I just fill 2 tanks with juice & have them around with 1 extra attys / battery combo. I am gone 12-15 hours from home every day, so I do carry 1 extra ecig combo.

3. Dont let the atty get hot, this will burn them out in 4 days - have 2 ego-t around with your VG juice & switch when the atty gets hot & let the other cool down (about 3-5 minutes).

4. Only put 1.5 ml in a ego-t type B tank (ie: dont fill it completely. For a 3 ml a day vapor, this is half a days supply anyway which is good so not a lot of refills to deal with).

5. Stop vaping & refill when you get almost to the end of the juice (I say this is about 2 dime coin widths of juice at the bottom).

6. When you are around a place to clean things, clean the attys by blowing them from the battery end 2-3 times then wipe out the atty & wipe the battery too. I only clean the atty in an ultrasound machine when it stops working hoping to bring it back alive. This is only every 2 weeks or so tho.
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For VG ego-T vapors:
1. I personally wouldn't vape 100% VG in these. I've done anywhere from 50% VG to 89% VG without problems. I cut the VG with either distilled water or another PG that matches well.

Being a bit careful like this, I've had no leak issues or destroying attys anymore.

I have 2 ego-t type B attys working since 5/26/11 & its 6/19/11 today.

HTH
 
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For VG ego-T vapors:
1. I personally wouldn't vape 100% VG in these. I've done anywhere from 50% VG to 89% VG without problems. I cut the VG with either distilled water or another PG that matches well.
I use 100% VG exclusively in my EgoTs. I've had no problem other than it's a little slower to wick than PG but it's not by that much. I always carry 2 egos on me and just rotate them after one is tasting dry. It's perfectly possible to use straight VG with them.

I'd happily trade out a little flavour muting in the EgoTs for the convenience they bring. No leaking, able to carry a lot of liquid with me in a day and I've never had a cart come out of the atty. The atties have lasted me months. I still have an original atty I've had since I got my EgoT 4 months ago that works just fine.

I can't agree more with the OP. If someone is asking for help with their setup, saying they should buy cartos or an expensive car battery mod you need a backpack to carry around because you prefer it isn't really fair. But overall I'd say most of the time, they get suggestions for cartos, mods or anything mixed in with straight advice for their unit. It's less common someone will say it's junk so just buy a car battery and make your own PV out of pipe cleaners and sticky tape.
 

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I just ordered a Joye Ego-T yesterday after vaping a 510 for the last 3+ months. I wanted a tank system that had longer battery charge on it than the 510. I am really hoping that I dont have any trouble after reading this. Would be my luck!

You shouldn't have any trouble....just be sure to blow out any primer fluid and wipe down the inside really well with a q-tip, be careful not to push the wick down....then right before you put on you filled tank, drop a couple drops onto the wick and insert the tank...do a couple of puffs without hitting the button....prime the pump so to speak....and you are good to go.....
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