An open letter to the ANTZ out there...

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DC2

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I'm sorry you are going to lose your job. Well, maybe I'm not so sorry. But the fact remains that you are going to lose your job. Your decades long parade of lies has built a house of cards, and electronic cigarettes users, armed with an ever-increasing body of truth, are a hurricane coming your way. I'm sorry it looks like we are still smoking, but we aren't and you know it. You pretend we are, you tell people we are, but we're not. We know it, our families know it, our friends know it, and our co-workers know it. That adds up to a lot of people who are no longer being fooled by your propaganda. Once you have been shown to be the liars that you are, it will be all over for you.

My suggestion to you is to get out now while the getting is good. Plan for another career. Or maybe just try to find another group to torment and harass in order to continue receiving those tainted paychecks. Either way, we aren't going to take it any more. We are strong, and we are growing, and our passion is far greater than yours can ever be. Your days are numbered, and we will never stop fighting to see you relegated to the unemployment lines. Your paychecks may depend on it, but our very lives depend on it.
 
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I love the letter DC :)
I think it was a rant, but I'm not entirely sure that's all it was.

Maybe it was an attempt to get the vaping community fired up, and to see the future the way we want it to be.
The way we NEED it to be.

Or maybe I was bored and wanted to stir up some dust.
:D
 

RosaJ

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Well we know that the ANTZ read this forum, maybe you really were talking to them :D

Yes, not only do they read this forum, they use our posts in "studies" they come up with solely based on threads that talk about possible health issues that are not confirmed nor followed up by physicians. On top of that, they don't ask for anyone's consent to use the information either.
 

Myrany

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Yes, not only do they read this forum, they use our posts in "studies" they come up with solely based on threads that talk about possible health issues that are not confirmed nor followed up by physicians. On top of that, they don't ask for anyone's consent to use the information either.

Why does that NOT surprise me. :p
 

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I have always said that the truth is ous sword and science is our shied. The more mothers, fathers. Brothers, sisters friend etc. that quit the more non vapers will see the truth. The more doctors that have long term vapers as patients the more of them will begin to talk about vaping as a good thing. With every legitimate study out there the reduced harm of vaping beggins to get set more and more into proof.

If we all get behind these messages we will win. ANTZ can't keep millions of people leading better healthier lives under wraps forever.
 

DC2

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The more doctors that have long term vapers as patients the more of them will begin to talk about vaping as a good thing.
Damn, you're right, I forgot about the doctors!

From all the evidence I have seen, perhaps as many as 90% of the doctors are behind us.
There are many factors at play which work at keeping them silent, but it seems clear that they know what we all know.
 

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I'm sorry you are going to lose your job. Well, maybe I'm not so sorry. But the fact remains that you are going to lose your job. Your decades long parade of lies has built a house of cards, and electronic cigarettes users, armed with an ever-increasing body of truth, are a hurricane coming your way. I'm sorry it looks like we are still smoking, but we aren't and you know it. You pretend we are, you tell people we are, but we're not. We know it, our families know it, our friends know it, and our co-workers know it. That adds up to a lot of people who are no longer being fooled by your propaganda. Once you have been shown to be the liars that you are, it will be all over for you.

My suggestion to you is to get out now while the getting is good. Plan for another career. Or maybe just try to find another group to torment and harass in order to continue receiving those tainted paychecks. Either way, we aren't going to take it any more. We are strong, and we are growing, and our passion is far greater than yours can ever be. Your days are numbered, and we will never stop fighting to see you relegated to the unemployment lines. Your paychecks may depend on it, but our very lives depend on it.

Well DC2 you have inspired at least one of us ;) Soon to be all ;) Great rant er speech er well put.
 

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Yes, not only do they read this forum, they use our posts in "studies" they come up with solely based on threads that talk about possible health issues that are not confirmed nor followed up by physicians. On top of that, they don't ask for anyone's consent to use the information either.

I would bet good money that some of those health issue and other weird problem posts are them. Nice rant letter DC2.
 

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DC2, et al,

Hopefully, you know that I'm a frequent 'liker' of your posts and am a 'brother in vaping' wid ya!

BUT, our pols have no interest in 'perceived', yet un$ub$tantiated, threats. What 'they' do understand, and count on, is da money reaped for re-election (regardless of source). Heck, they spend over half their waking/working hours gathering campaign funds.

In my ol' memory, 'aiming' high has never eliminated an 'enemy' of da folk. Our efforts need to start with our local pols. Unfortunately, our republic democratic system has self degenerated into a vote buying 'bu$ine$$ (as forewarned by ol' Ben Franklin and others)!

I'm not saying to avoid 'shots across da bow'. But we will not topple the anti-vaping proponents without addressing our city/county/state concerns.

I truly appreciate your effort! But, it'll take a lot more than a letter/email to attract and sway da pols attention! Just my .02 FRNs...

Regardless, thanx!
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I think it was a rant, but I'm not entirely sure that's all it was.

Maybe it was an attempt to get the vaping community fired up, and to see the future the way we want it to be.
The way we NEED it to be.

Or maybe I was bored and wanted to stir up some dust.
:D

You got me fired up! It's Friday, I'm off work, I gotta full tank of 6mg and I live in Nanny Corbett's district. I'm gonna head downtown and...uh...well...vape maybe? I dunno and I ain't sure, but I'm FIRED UP! :)
 
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