All I can say is the mtl rtas are great, so I'm sure the dtl ones are good also. Even on their FB page there's hi praise on them. They do restock every so often, especially on fridays, so you just have to keep a watch. Or perhaps try the FT clones which are pretty good (I was given a FT clone from a member here and it was actually pretty nice).Thanks for the reference, it looks like a hard one to find though. I made it through about 45 seconds of the Jai Haze review attached to that site, so I'll have to rely on your advice since I can't stomach that guy![]()