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Yes...another Kant thread, but different. Although the actual formula for classic Kant is long gone, I have discovered the origin of the label image. Why is this important? Well....it isn't, but that's beside the point. The trail to image was kinda fun though.

Up in the lounge forum is a thread about Kuwait banning DSLR cameras. Not all cameras....just those ones....and without giving a good reason why. Well, that gets me to thinking and since I have no real life, I decided to find out why. Started the usual Google News search and everyone is just as perplexed. There is no good reason to ban a single class of cameras, other than they are larger than point and shoot styles...and of course cell-phone cameras. Now since the journalists out there had no reason, I decided to come up with my own. Perhaps it has something to do with the incident a few years back whereby people found out that with a particular SONY camera, a special filter, and running in infrared mode....one could see through some fabrics (like a TSA scanner). Now the muslim world would have a problem with this (who wouldn't), particularly if Kuwait leaned to a more conservative form of Islam like covering their women head to toe in fabric. But is Kuwait progressive Islam or not...and what do they wear over there?

Back to Google...but this time Google images for Kuwaiti people. I had to see how they were dressed. Was it fundamental Islamic dress...or Western? Well...I never really found out, because amongst the images, my eye caught a picture of a castle and it looked familiar. It was the same castle that appears on the Kant label at V4L. Now what is my Kant castle doing in Kuwait!

So I follow the image to a travel site and there it tells me about a hotel in Kuwait City and the address. Cool....I can now fire up Google Earth and check it out with Streetview. Except one problem....Kuwait apparently doesn;t allow Google Streetview and there are no little camera icons. Bummer....but probably has something to do with the original problem of why did Kuwait ban DSLR cameras. Anyway...I figure I can still get a look at my castle from above, because it has a moat and cosway type of thing. Should look cool in all that brown dirt and sand. But guess what....there is no castle at that address, but a tall modern building. Apparently the travel site snagged the image from the same stock photo place that V4L did (I have no idea why they would pick a castle for Kuwait, but they did). Now the trail has gone cold....or has it?

Back to Google Images for a search on keywords "Castle wooden bridge water"....BINGO, I see my castle again and the image says is Bodiam castle. Over to Wikipedia and I have found all I need to know about my Kant castle....and the coordinates for Google Earth. The castle itself has streetview inside of it and you can go in and do some 360 viewing. The mystery of Kant Castle....SOLVED!

Some links I came across in my travels on this:

List of Hotels in Kuwait | Trails.com
Bodiam Castle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So....I never found out why Kuwait banned DSLR cameras, but managed to occupy myself for 30 minutes or so. And I have also managed to waste yout time reading this.... :p:laugh:
 

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Good news....the camera ban mystery has also been solved....apparently. There isn't one....

From the Kuwait Times:

Local News
RETRACTION
Published Date: November 28, 2010

On Saturday, November 20, 2010 the Kuwait Times published an article titled 'Multi ministry camera ban frustrates artists' in which incorrect information was provided. The newspaper regrets failing to verify the information. The article wrongly stated that a ban on DSLR cameras was implemented by the Ministries of Information, Social Affairs and Finance. This information is false. In a follow up investigation, it was proved that no such ban has been issued. We regret this error and deeply apologize for any inconvenience caused.

I feel better already. Just in case I buy such a camera and decide to go to Kuwait and take pictures. Oh yeah.....dodged a bullet there....LOL
 

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It took me 1.288 seconds to find it's available on Getty and iStock.

Plugins - TinEye

Right click, search image on tineye...

1.8B pages searched. ;)

Your story is better though.

Although the Sony video cams were a particular range of IR that could image body heat signature, sorta like a baby-flir. DSLRs aren't inherently good at that since they all have IR-cut filters. I have to remove the IR-cut for astrophotography - a very delicate and expensive process... ;) Webcams are easy to modify and if you know the IR range you're looking for, good for "virtually removing light-weight clothing"
 
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Yes...another Kant thread, but different. Although the actual formula for classic Kant is long gone....

So I wasn't around for the original Kant thread(s) you refer to, and can't seem to find them... could you point me to them and/or summarize what the deal is?

I'm curious, cause a few weeks back I got my v4l starter kit, with a tobacco sampler pack, and decided that I liked Kant best out of the flavors in the sampler, so I ordered a 30ml bottle of Kant liquid, and it tastes NOTHING like the Kant that was in my prefilled cartos, really awful..... I was thinking it was because I ordered the premium, rather than WOW juice, and was thinking of trying the WOW on my next order... but if the formula has actually changed that might not make any difference....
 

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It took me 1.288 seconds to find it's available on Getty and iStock.

Plugins - TinEye

Right click, search image on tineye...

1.8B pages searched. ;)

Your story is better though.

Although the Sony video cams were a particular range of IR that could image body heat signature, sorta like a baby-flir. DSLRs aren't inherently good at that since they all have IR-cut filters. I have to remove the IR-cut for astrophotography - a very delicate and expensive process... ;) Webcams are easy to modify and if you know the IR range you're looking for, good for "virtually removing light-weight clothing"

Interesting plug-in....ener seen that one before. Thanks....
 

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So I wasn't around for the original Kant thread(s) you refer to, and can't seem to find them... could you point me to them and/or summarize what the deal is?

I'm curious, cause a few weeks back I got my v4l starter kit, with a tobacco sampler pack, and decided that I liked Kant best out of the flavors in the sampler, so I ordered a 30ml bottle of Kant liquid, and it tastes NOTHING like the Kant that was in my prefilled cartos, really awful..... I was thinking it was because I ordered the premium, rather than WOW juice, and was thinking of trying the WOW on my next order... but if the formula has actually changed that might not make any difference....

This thread sums up the current Kant situation:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vapor4life/86120-last-word-kant.html

In short....the very first Kant recipe got lost when the chemist left the manufacturer and took his notes with him. Leaford explained it better, so I will copy/paste his post:

...Actually, yes, I have found him. Or rather, found the people who know where he's hiding. You see, it turns out there's a story behind his dissapearance. It seems when he left his former employer, he took all his recipies with him. We knew that, that was why we had such trouble with flavors after that. What I've only learned since is that his employers REALLY didn't take that very well. They had him arrested and locked up! Theft of trade secrets!

So he spent a couple of months in jail before his friends managed to get the charges dropped, and got him free. Now, he's "underground" in a secret laboratory somewhere, and will only work with one or two manufacturers.....
 

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It's actually more confusing now than when I wrote that thread. In the meantime, one of the premium cartos name has been changed from premium to WOW (soft tops).....

As of now, the 5ml bottles have the good "classic Kant" which is the very first Kant recipe and my fav. Now I don't know which you got with your kit, but if the cap is soft....it aint classic, it's one of the others. If the carto cap is hard (and difficult to remove) then it is likely premium Kant. If, after you remove the hard cap, there is a little plastic ring inside, then you got classic kant in a non-premium carto.

And if you bought your stuff during a full moon on a Tuesday, then nobody knows what the hell you got....LOL :D
 

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yeah, the whole situation with V4Ls premium/WOW/coolcart is really confusing, and then this stuff with Kant is just.... grrrr....

the cartos I got in my tobacco sampler had hard caps, difficult to remove, but did NOT have the inner ring in them. And the Kant had a very complex, tobacco-y flavor, which my disgusting 30ml refill bottle tastes nothing at all like.
 

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Looks like you got what was once called "premium hard-top Kant". That flavor is close to what is in the 5ml bottles. Closer than any of the others for sure. I buy those and refill with juice from the 5ml bottles since they are close enough. However, I just bought 6 boxes of them and when they arrived....they had soft tops (not a good sign) and didn't taste at all right. I don't have a clue whether the person filling my order grabbed the wrong ones....or we have yet another incarnation of Kant. Quite frankly, the only things I am comfortable buying at this point is the 5ml bottles since the Kant area is so messed up now. Normally I would tell you to try a 5ml bottle and see if it is the one you like. But that doesn't really help, since even if it is the flavor you like...it is an endangered species. They have already sold out the medium strengths in those bottles.

Kant, to me, tastes like an unlit cigarette....and is the only one so far to do that for me.
 
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