Another Newb - Just Placed 1st Order!

[avolpe]

Wow, I have been researching and researching and my head is spinning with info! I would like to place my order now with cignot for a 510 model...before I order, I would like to be sure of what I am getting...does this model have a button to press or does it work on draw or inhale?
Thanks, Anne

 

[georgiasl]

I think that one big factor in my successful switch was the fact that I don't have any analogs in the house because I have also experienced that craving for "something" and if I had a pack in the house I would have probably smoked one but, for me at least, it was not worth the trouble of going to the store. I did the same thing when I went on a diet 3 years ago I lost 60 pounds and have kept it off since. I threw away all of the junk food in my house and I do not bring any home EVER. I will have dessert at a restaurant but if I have stuff like that in the house I will eat it.

 

[Remie]

Wow, I have been researching and researching and my head is spinning with info! I would like to place my order now with cignot for a 510 model...before I order, I would like to be sure of what I am getting...does this model have a button to press or does it work on draw or inhale?
Thanks, Anne

Hi Anne,

The Joye 510 from cignot comes with your choice of Automatic (no button to push, e-cig is activated by you taking a "drag"), or Manual (you push the button when you "drag" or "draw' on the e-cig.

I just received mine yesterday, so I am brand new to this, but I can say that I prefer the Manual battery with the push button. I had no trouble at all adapting to it. Pushing the button was second nature to me after the first few drags.

If you aren't completely sure when you place your order - the kit comes with 2 batteries and you can choose one manual and one auto, try them both and decide which one you like better.

I am very happy with cignot and I plan on ordering another kit from them this week.

Good Luck!! Keep asking questions. The people here are so helpful. I hope you decide to take the plunge. I also know that there is SO much information here that making a choice is difficult. I felt the same way. I felt the 510 would fit my needs, and it does - worst case scenario - it wasn't the right model for me - I would have only been out the cost of a few packs of cigarettes

Remie

 

[CaptJay]

So far today I've had One (yes ONE) analogue - and it was just now because I decided I 'wanted' one. The oddest thing was was, no headrush. I always get a headrush after I have my first cig - but not this time. Ive been vaping all day - by which I mean about 12 puffs/drags in all. I press the button, inhale, do it again and I feel 'satisfied'. Sometimes I press it a couple more times and inhale but mostly 1-4 drags is enough. It was never enough when I was smoking ciggies all the time - maybe its the higher nic content?
Another odd thing - I'm starting to crave that capu/nic taste from the 510 cignot carts.
Its strange to me because I have never considered giving up smoking - not once since I started smoking *mumble* years ago So this is a true new experience for me.
Good luck to all the people popping in and/or waiting on their kits - if I have any advice for you at all it is: do NOT have too high expectations on tatste / results. Just take it one day/one vape at a time and see how you feel.

 

[avolpe]

ty remie for a quick response..great idea to choose both. i plan on putting the order in tonight as i feel i am wasting time and over analyzing. i am going to order the elite 510 as it has both wall charger and usb charger. is there anything else i should order as not to be stuck without something? the fear of not having a cig at my fingertips scares me!!! but then again i could always use an analog if need be! lol

 

[Remie]

ty remie for a quick response..great idea to choose both. i plan on putting the order in tonight as i feel i am wasting time and over analyzing. i am going to order the elite 510 as it has both wall charger and usb charger. is there anything else i should order as not to be stuck without something? the fear of not having a cig at my fingertips scares me!!! but then again i could always use an analog if need be! lol

Anne,

If I could tell you just ONE thing, it would be juice. I know I didn't order enough juice from cignot. It's an inexpensive investment and I figured out that flavors I don't like can be mixed with other flavors or diluted, or just saved for an emergency. I really do not ever want to rely on "analogs" again - ever.

If I could tell you TWO things, it would be juice and another basic $35.00 starter kit. Since you aren't sure on which batteries you are going to prefer. Hold off and decide - then maybe order another basic starter kit. Extra batteries and attys will only help you not have to smoke analogs should something randomly go awry.

Before I received my kit I placed an order for e-juice with Ms. T's Bakery (they have some delicious sounding juice). I am hoping it ships quick! Check around for juice suppliers on this board - there are several highly rated suppliers with good prices and delicious sounding varieties.

I thought I would only want to "vape" menthol, since I've been a strictly menthol smoker from day one *cough* *ahem* years ago but I am loving the cappuccino, mixing chocolate with cappuccino, mixing chocolate with Double Mint... why not enjoy *taste* along with the experience? It's pretty awesome!

I ordered the kit with the PCC and so far it's working great. It charges one battery while I puff on the other and holds 2 carts and the spare atty.

When I received my kit I realized that the mini USB cord included with the PCC is the exact same size as the cords on all my Canon digital camera gear, and the wall charger/car charger adapters I have for my iPod work with the USB cord from the PCC, so I can charge it in my car. I suppose it's all standard stuff.

Good Luck! Keep us posted!! Let us know how you make out and what you think when you get your new 510!!

Remie

 

[avolpe]

Anne,

If I could tell you just ONE thing, it would be juice. I know I didn't order enough juice from cignot. It's an inexpensive investment and I figured out that flavors I don't like can be mixed with other flavors or diluted, or just saved for an emergency. I really do not ever want to rely on "analogs" again - ever.

If I could tell you TWO things, it would be juice and another basic $35.00 starter kit. Since you aren't sure on which batteries you are going to prefer. Hold off and decide - then maybe order another basic starter kit. Extra batteries and attys will only help you not have to smoke analogs should something randomly go awry.

Before I received my kit I placed an order for e-juice with Ms. T's Bakery (they have some delicious sounding juice). I am hoping it ships quick! Check around for juice suppliers on this board - there are several highly rated suppliers with good prices and delicious sounding varieties.

I thought I would only want to "vape" menthol, since I've been a strictly menthol smoker from day one *cough* *ahem* years ago but I am loving the cappuccino, mixing chocolate with cappuccino, mixing chocolate with Double Mint... why not enjoy *taste* along with the experience? It's pretty awesome!

I ordered the kit with the PCC and so far it's working great. It charges one battery while I puff on the other and holds 2 carts and the spare atty.

When I received my kit I realized that the mini USB cord included with the PCC is the exact same size as the cords on all my Canon digital camera gear, and the wall charger/car charger adapters I have for my iPod work with the USB cord from the PCC, so I can charge it in my car. I suppose it's all standard stuff.

Good Luck! Keep us posted!! Let us know how you make out and what you think when you get your new 510!!

Remie

you are a doll, thanks for the info...i am so excited i just might get off analogs soon! I will order the xtra juice. I will keep you posted,...off to buy an ecig!

 

[GoodDog]

So Remie, howyadoooin? Have you heard anything about your Ms. T's order?

 

[GoodDog]

CaptJay, howYOUdoooin? I had 2 analogs yesterday and 1 so far today. I think we're doing great!!! I figure even if I continue to smoke 1 or 2 a day that won't be nearly as bad as 1 or 2 PACKS a day! I'm finding I enjoy them less and can't or don't want to smoke a whole one at one time. I've been in a bad mood all day and don't know if it's from some chemical withdrawal or a bad mood just 'because'.

 

[Remie]

Hi Allie!

I'm doing good, thanks! I'm really liking this whole "vaping" process. Biggest bonus is - I haven't smoked a real ciggie in 2 days! I keep saying it but, that in itself is a miracle

Nothing from Ms. T's I am going to contact them via their website about my order. When I go to the site and check my order status it only says "Pending" - but my credit card was already charged.

So... knowing that I may not have my Ms. T's juice anytime soon - I ran back to cignot I know I'll at least get the juice quick - and the Eco Pure Menthol seems to be my current "go to" juice, at least for now.

I am swapping batteries more often, and it makes a big difference. I don't mind the "fuss" or "tinkering" - I rather enjoy it! I like filling up carts before I go to bed. I just can't taste anything - yet... so the menthol is the most satisfying. I am sure that being a life-long menthol smoker has a lot to do with the menthol juice satisfying my cravings.

As far as cravings - I really haven't had any today - but - I've been vaping quite a bit

I flooded an atty and blew it out - I still have a bit of the nasty burnt taste sometimes on just that one atty. Very weird... but I am sure I will figure it out.

I was home sick today - (was sick all weekend actually - nothing major, just a random bug that's been going around, low grade temp, achy, stuffy) I'm finding that the strong menthol hits I get if I drip the Eco Pure clear my head, almost like one of those Vick's Inhalers - and I like it!

So, what about you? How's it been going?

 

[Remie]

CaptJay, howYOUdoooin? I had 2 analogs yesterday and 1 so far today. I think we're doing great!!! I figure even if I continue to smoke 1 or 2 a day that won't be nearly as bad as 1 or 2 PACKS a day! I'm finding I enjoy them less and can't or don't want to smoke a whole one at one time. I've been in a bad mood all day and don't know if it's from some chemical withdrawal or a bad mood just 'because'.

Allie, LOL - me too! I chalked it up to "just because", well, just because.

My kids have been on my nerves and I even told my BF I wanted to stay home alone and just be sick tonight. (Translation: don't come over, I am cranky and want to be alone )

I think we need to just give ourselves a break in general. The e-cig is going to pacify a lot of the discomfort from quitting, but - our bodies/brains need time to make the adjustments. There is a lot of crap we'll be detoxing from for the first 7 to 10 days. Even if we're still smoking an analog here and there, we've made MAJOR changes.

Even changing our prior ciggie "rituals" means psychological adjustments. Being cranky, irritable, bad mood - I think it comes with the territory.

I am glad I get to stay home another day - and I will spend tomorrow in my bag-lady PJ pants, warm hoodie and socks - being a cranky vapor-veggie

 

[GoodDog]

LOL, that's pretty much what I did today...didn't even get dressed!!! I woke up yelling at my cat for spilling a glass of water on my battery back-up and he just gave me a funny look. I've never yelled at him before so he was confused as to what I was talking about. Geez, I tried to explain but he's been pouting all day!!!

You're doing so good!!! I think I wouldn't be as tempted if I didn't still have a pack of analogs laying around, oh well. When they're gone I'll probably be too lazy to go out and buy a pack....I hope.

Maybe I've been vaping too much because I keep getting hiccups and heartburn. I think that's from too much nic??? When I use the gum that happens if I'm not careful.

 

[Remie]

LOL, that's pretty much what I did today...didn't even get dressed!!! I woke up yelling at my cat for spilling a glass of water on my battery back-up and he just gave me a funny look. I've never yelled at him before so he was confused as to what I was talking about. Geez, I tried to explain but he's been pouting all day!!!

You're doing so good!!! I think I wouldn't be as tempted if I didn't still have a pack of analogs laying around, oh well. When they're gone I'll probably be too lazy to go out and buy a pack....I hope.

Maybe I've been vaping too much because I keep getting hiccups and heartburn. I think that's from too much nic??? When I use the gum that happens if I'm not careful.

Hiccups can be caused by anything that irritates the nerves controlling the diaphragm. So- I wouldn't say it's strictly due to too much nicotine. It also happens when we inhale too much air (smoking, drinking through a straw...), drink too much alcohol, drink a lot of carbonated beverages quickly... stomach upset/indigestion can cause hiccups too... Do you have a headache? A headache would be a good indication that you are too high on the nic levels.

Your cat will not remember that you yelled at him for spilling water - if he does, just open a can of people-tuna, that always gets my cats to forgive any of my human indiscretions that insult their oh, so delicate sensibilities

Oddly enough, I do have a pack of cigs! It's sitting right in the drawer next to me. Normally, having just ONE pack of cigs is enough to cause me some anxiety, but - I really don't want a cig!

That craving for the indescribable *something* that CaptJay talked about? I'm getting that right now. So, I put an 18mg pre-filled cart on and I can suck on that without worrying too much about the nicotine.

Yay!! I am not the only cranky bag-lady vapin'-vegetable!

 

[AlexTM]

Exactly, CaptJay! You put what I've been feeling into the exact words. I have been craving Something!! It's not exactly the Newport, it's not the hand to mouth, blowing out smoke, smoke rings... act of smoking - it's just something!

What the heck is it? It's not strong enough to make me want a real ciggie (yet), and I've been doing the same thing. When I get that craving I take 4 or 5 puffs before I put it down too.

You are not exactly the only one who feels like this. Current favourite for this craving are the MAOIs, anti-depressants, which you find in tobacco products, but not in vaping.
And it's not just craving, either - that missing thing usually comes for those who experience it with side effects, as well.

Do try some sort of smokeless tobacco and see if it goes away. I had some snus still here, which I had not even liked back then when I tried to cut down analogs with it. Now I take one or two of them a day, and problem gone.

Check those threads for a start, but if you read through the forum you will find a lot more discussing the same problem: To snus or not to snus and Is vaping all you need? and check out the smokeless forum.

 

[Remie]

Thank you Alex! I love your poll - the comments in that thread are interesting.

I haven't checked the facts regarding MAOI in cigarettes. I'm skeptical about that one. Do cigarettes contain MAOI? At what level? As a lifelong smoker (25 years) and a heavy smoker at that, if there were significant levels of MAOI in my body, wouldn't I have adverse reactions to dietary amines, among other things?

Or - is it only when MAOI is ingested that the dietary/drug interactions are dangerous?

Hrrm... ok - now I'm curious enough to investigate this

On the other hand-

I epext to develop some level of discomfort, vague cravings, etc. only because I know that there is a very strong psychological component to my addiction. Abrupt cessation of any compulsive behavior will cause most people to experience varying levels of anxiety and/or vague cravings (which could be just for the behavior and initiated by subconscious awareness of triggers), among other things.

If I think of what I've done in terms of the physiology and psychology of Addiction - my brain is going to resist, even though I am replicating the behavior and satisfying the majority of the physiological need for the addictive substance.

There is a very powerful link between our physiology and psychology. I am hesitant to chalk everything up to the MAOI effect, or lump all of the various changes and symptomatology that will occur on this journey to "the 4000 chemicals I'm now not getting by exclusively vaping".

That said, I am not going to discount it either. I believe, like everything else, there has to be a balance, so I try to consider everything.

Much food for thought!

 

[AlexTM]

Two more threads for you:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ne-maois-towards-more-effective-e-liquid.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-nicotine-absorption-addictiveness-maois.html

And MAOI is a collective term for different substances, so there can be (and is) quite a difference between those in, say, food, or tobacco, and those from the pharmacy. Actually, those from the pharmacy are not all the same, either.

However, it is not entirely certain that MAOIs are indeed that "Factor X" (cooler name than "something") that quite a few vapers crave so much. It's not exactly unlikely, either, though.
There is IMO even the possibility that there is more than one substance that can create those cravings; given that some never, even with vaping, manage to stop smoking, while others "hit the wall" weeks after they quit analogs for good and without major problems. That however could also simply be a different storage of the same substance.

As for anxiety because of behavioural changes, if you read through several threads which discuss the problem, you will find that oddly, that was usualy not the problem. Many people were perfectly happy with vaping alone for weeks and occasionally months (although 4-6 weeks seems to be a difficult spot), before their cravings became very noticeable.

And of course, several things probably can be attributed to 3999 chemicals missing with vaping.

 

[GoodDog]

Thanks for the links Alex. Our symptoms and cravings make more sense and just having a couple of analogs a day have helped reduce these cravings. Trying unsuccessfully to quit smoking so many times has had an effect on me both emotionally and physically. Vaping is the closest I've come to "believe" I can quit analogs long term. I do worry about what would happen if I were unable to get it... if it's banned. Will I immediately go back to analogs?

 

[AlexTM]

I've never even bothered to try stopping analogs, I knew I never would. I could not even reduce them, until I started vaping. Being able to stop them completely was a very big surprise.

On the other hand, the health Nazis never quite managed to convince me that I was public enemy No. 1, either. Not only were they obviously missing something (the benefits of smoking), some claims were just too outragous. (A drop of 30% in cardio-related deaths in the year after a smoking ban? Uhm, sorry, but that sounds … unlikely.)

 

[GoodDog]

Alex, do you think the stigma is as bad in Germany as it is in California? Here if you smoke you better be a closet smoker or people will treat you like a non-human. I've lost friends and found myself wanting to stay home just so I didn't have to deal with all the self-righteous nuts that have invaded Calif! I'm a native and I can tell you it's not the natives that have ruined this state!!!

 

[Remie]

I've never even bothered to try stopping analogs, I knew I never would. I could not even reduce them, until I started vaping. Being able to stop them completely was a very big surprise.

On the other hand, the health Nazis never quite managed to convince me that I was public enemy No. 1, either. Not only were they obviously missing something (the benefits of smoking), some claims were just too outragous. (A drop of 30% in cardio-related deaths in the year after a smoking ban? Uhm, sorry, but that sounds … unlikely.)

I've actually tried to stop analogs, many times. Unsuccessfully - and, admittedly with the thought in my mind that "nothing will work", and nothing has worked. I quit during my pregnancies, but not deliberately - the smell made me ill. Several years ago I quit for 8 months with Chantix. I had the absolute worst psychological withdrawal, I actually sobbed when I did the ritualistic throwing away my cigs in the trash. One day, something random totally angered me, and in a snit I pulled into the gas station, bought a pack and I was right back to smoking as if I'd never quit.

Re: The Health Nazis I couldn't agree more and always felt the same way!

The fact that this e-cig has kept me pacified, comfortable and completely analog free since Saturday night - a miracle.

Now - if Ms. T would ship the juice I ordered last week, I'd be happy
Since when is it acceptable business practice to charge someone for something on the day the order is placed - and fail to ship it for a week?

Sorry to be cranky McCranky-pants, but seriously? Charge me when it ships, and please don't tell me your personal problems (excuses) for not making good on a business transaction. I was promised shipment today, and it still has not shipped. I thought she was a respected supplier? No matter how good the product, this is not the way to gain repeat customers and I doubt I will order from her again.

/end rant

Allie? I'm still cranky