Another newb looking for setup help

[Kanj.nguyen]

I think you cant go wrong with the Twist-Nova combo like you have in your cart right now. For even more discretion, a Mini Vivi Nova or a Kanger T3 may be worth looking into - they blend in much better with an eGo. The big Nova has slightly smaller diameter than the cone skirt you have in your cart and could look silly and irritating if you like things neat like i do.

Also, if you spend a lot of time in your car, get a passthrough and a car charger, and never run out of battery again!

If you dont want to raise the question of doing "other substances", a cigalike maybe what youre looking for. Most people while not familiar with all the PV systems we use do know by this point that there exist electronic cigarettes, so seeing something that looks like a cig will put their minds at ease.

 

[wv2win]

Vamo isn't going to work. When I first looked at it I just saw the price of the body. Didn't realize also need batteries and a charger which pushed the price up to around $90. It may be something I look into down the road but for right now it's to expensive.

Your math and mine must be different. Add two sets of batteries and the Trustfire TR-001 charger to the Vamo and the cost comes out to $72 for me. When you look at if from the long run, you will save money with the Vamo over say a twist. Those twist batteries run $25+. A Vamo battery will run you about $11.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

I dont know why nobody mentioned this: http://www.smokerevolt.com/Mini-Bracer-VV-Passthrough_p_388.html

Variable voltage, as tiny as tiny can get, and endless power.

I love my VAMO, but if youre looking to avoid attention, sucking on a shiny 8 inch chrome clarinet (like my setup) is probably not the answer.

 

[boomhower1820]

I ordered the Smoktech Dual coil Mega XL Cartomizers last week and have enjoyed them. The taste is good/clean and they hold a lot more than the reg 510 (they are bigger but still look like a reg cartomizer. The dual coil should help with throat hit too.

Smok Tech Dual Coil Mega XL 1.5 OHM Cartomizer, Black

They also have a 3 ohm. I've been using the 1.5 on my Ego with no problems.
Good luck and Thanks for putting it on the line everyday to keep the rest of us safe.

I may have to try some of those.

I think you cant go wrong with the Twist-Nova combo like you have in your cart right now. For even more discretion, a Mini Vivi Nova or a Kanger T3 may be worth looking into - they blend in much better with an eGo. The big Nova has slightly smaller diameter than the cone skirt you have in your cart and could look silly and irritating if you like things neat like i do.

Also, if you spend a lot of time in your car, get a passthrough and a car charger, and never run out of battery again!

If you dont want to raise the question of doing "other substances", a cigalike maybe what youre looking for. Most people while not familiar with all the PV systems we use do know by this point that there exist electronic cigarettes, so seeing something that looks like a cig will put their minds at ease.

The Mini seems difficult to find right now. Is it that much different from the 2ml Nova? Can you link the cone skirt I need? I would like a nice finished look.

Your math and mine must be different. Add two sets of batteries and the Trustfire TR-001 charger to the Vamo and the cost comes out to $72 for me. When you look at if from the long run, you will save money with the Vamo over say a twist. Those twist batteries run $25+. A Vamo battery will run you about $11.

The site I was on at the time cost more for the batteries and charger. Still, the thing is huge. Down the road I'll likely pick one of these up or something similar for home use but for right now it's not the ideal solution for while I'm at work.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

The mini is the 2ml.

Heres the cone you need (type D): eGo Steel Sleeve/Cone

I have the setup and it matches absolutely perfect in terms of diameter.

Check out the link in my previous post. Just my 2 cents, but thats your best option for a battery. That, plus a mini Nova and the cone, youre good to go: a setup that never runs out of power when youre in the car, and so small you can probably conceal it in your palm. Costs like what, $20?

 

[boomhower1820]

The mini is the 2ml.

Heres the cone you need (type D): eGo Steel Sleeve/Cone

I have the setup and it matches absolutely perfect in terms of diameter.

Check out the link in my previous post. Just my 2 cents, but thats your best option for a battery. That, plus a mini Nova and the cone, youre good to go: a setup that never runs out of power when youre in the car, and so small you can probably conceal it in your palm. Costs like what, $20?

Ok. The one in the cart was a 2ml, that's why I was confused as I was trying to figure out the difference between two 2ml tanks! I just may add one of those from your post as well, still will need a regular one though.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

Yeah sorry pic was a little small couldnt tell? But in that case the cone in your cart will not work. Its a lot wider than the tank. Take the type D.

Also, regarding the extra heads, 1.8 ohm would be my choice instead of 2.4ohm. Generally, Novas work best at 8 watts, so take the square root of 8x1.8 you get 3.8 volt, which is the voltage of standard (no variable voltage) batteries. Thus if you want a back up battery, you can just get a normal eGo, much cheaper than Twists and still get your optimal vape.

 

[Roots820]

If you are shying away from tanks because they show the liquid, you might look into a Kanger EVOD or a Kanger MT3. You can get them in black to match a black twist, and they have a slot to view your liquid level.

 

[mkbilbo]

Ideally I would prefer not to.

Thank you for the kind words. With the things going on right now I don't want to bring any attention to myself that's not needed. Getting complaints whether valid or not is frowned upon. I'm hoping to find some middle ground. What do you guys think of this:

I'm still confused about what resistance I need. For the Boge's they have 2.0 and 3.0. For the Vivi they have 1.8 and 2.4. Which do I need? Would these be a good starter set-up or do I need to keep looking? For fluid I am going to try goodejuice mentioned earlier in the thread.

Vapoor (and others) know more about resistance issues than I do but lower means you use the batteries faster but get more vapor and warmer, higher means less vapor and cooler and the batteries last longer. More or less.

But the eGo Twist sounds good. I want one definitely.

One thing to keep in mind is the eGo as I recall has both eGo and 510 threads. That gives you a lot of options on what you can attach. 510 is a big "standard" and tons of vendors offer cartomizers and atomizers and what not with 510 threading. Can save some money watching what's compatible with what.

But with the 510 threads, if tanks work at home and cartos at work, you can switch as needed. Or swap batteries as needed. And if you need something much more "cigarette like" for work, you could get 510 batteries that are more slender and cig like and use the same cartomizers. My portable is a Joye 510. Basically like this one: Joye 510 (not exactly but close and I did get mine from Cignot, good bunch, ship really fast). Have a pass through at my desk so I don't have use batteries all the time but when I leave, just unscrew the carto from the pass through, screw it on a battery and go.

Heh, you can even find brown cartomizers and white batteries. Make it look a great deal like a cig. The "cig-a-like" gets bashed a great deal around here but since you have the understandable issue of not wanting to appear to be using, ahem, non-traditional (?) substances, a cig-a-like for work might make sense.

By the way, I'm becoming quite happy with Boge cartomizers. I tried a 510-T tank system but have drifted back to just the Boge cartos. The cartos were a bit of a pain to fill at first but once I got the hang of it, I'm getting good vapor production, good taste, and they last a decent amount of time.

 

[tnt56]

Issue is I'm a cop. If I ride around in a marked patrol car looking like I'm hitting (OTHER STUFF) it's going to create some phone calls. I'm going to give tanks a try at the house and even out and about on my off day but for at work I need something more discrete. A tank is certainly going to be part of my order but need some regular non-tanked carto's as well. Just completely confused on what to order. I'll look into that juice line. I'm actually using nic free juice, using patches to wean myself from nicotine.

I was an armed officer also. Always in the public eye. I've been turned in for using my nebulizer in the patrol vehicle. As far as the twist is concerned, just stay with a slim vivi nova or the kanger T3. You've not broken any laws and as long as you department doesn't have a policy against the use of PV's then you good. Let em drug test or whatever they want to. I went through this with two different chief's and always won. I even vaped in the chief's office a couple of times. Till they put the no e cig policy in effect. Then I was screwed. Had to walk across the street to vape.

 

[tnt56]

Vapoor (and others) know more about resistance issues than I do but lower means you use the batteries faster but get more vapor and warmer, higher means less vapor and cooler and the batteries last longer. More or less.

But the eGo Twist sounds good. I want one definitely.

decent amount of time.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you have that backwards. If you do the math (V2/r = watts.) If you run a 1.8 ohm head at 4 volts you come up with 8.8 watts. If you use a 2.4 ohm head at 4 volts you only get 6.6 watts. Therfore if you use a lower head you can get the same vape using less voltage. (I hope this is right). The math worked out anyway.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

No. Voltage does not relate to battery drain.

All that matters is how much power you put out: more wattage means more energy output. If you let more energy flow out, more energy must be drained from batteries. Its just conservation of energy law.

Think about it this way: more watts means hotter coil. Where does that extra heat come from? You are taking more from the battery for it.

 

[mkbilbo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you have that backwards. If you do the math (V2/r = watts.) If you run a 1.8 ohm head at 4 volts you come up with 8.8 watts. If you use a 2.4 ohm head at 4 volts you only get 6.6 watts. Therfore if you use a lower head you can get the same vape using less voltage. (I hope this is right). The math worked out anyway.

I could have all kinds of things backward and upside down for that matter. I should go sit in the corner and be quiet. Especially as it occurs to me I was thinking of batteries that aren't variable voltage.

Yeesh. Used to know Ohm's Law like the back of my hand. These days, not so much...

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

I could have all kinds of things backward and upside down for that matter. I should go sit in the corner and be quiet. Especially as it occurs to me I was thinking of batteries that aren't variable voltage.

Yeesh. Used to know Ohm's Law like the back of my hand. These days, not so much...

No you were correct.

 

[Ferrel1134]

I would recommend a kanger t3 or mt3. I love the bottom coil it was easy to fill and for the first time ever I have almost two months smoke free. If u ever need help pm me I can try to help. Welcome to ECF.


Smoke free since feb 19 2013

 

[boomhower1820]

Ok, I think I've made up my mind. Pretty much said my way or the highway and skipping the cartos. Going with the Twist and EVOD combo. Decided on the EVOD due to the cheaper replacement heads and I like the look. It should be discrete enough to not cause any problems. With the covered tank it doesn't look bad at all. Most places I've looked they are $1.5 compared to $3 for the MT3/Vivi's for the replacements. Still a bit confused on the resistance but it seems 1.8 are the ones I need unless I've misread. Is a sleeve needed for this combo? If so is it still the type D listed above?

For juice I'm going to try the MtBakerVapor first. Again, I smoke menthol so trying that first. Going to get a bottle of 555 and a bottle of regular menthol. His descriptions leave a bit to be desired but the numerous reviews help. I hate to open another can of worms but what blend would be good to start with? I'll be doing some more reading but would the default 80/20 be a good starting point? It will be no nicotine and want good throat hit.

I think this should get me started. I'm sure down the line I'll be trying other tank systems and eventually upgrade to a better battery system but for starting out with something decent this should do. I'm still sick about spending $100 on the cig ecig lookalike couples package that both me and my wife hate. This combo is with juice isn't much more. Lesson learned.

Thank you all so much for your help and suggestions. I haven't quoted all of the responses but I have read and appreciate everyones input.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

EVOD threads nicely onto eGo without need for cones. The tank actually covers up the cone - its basically made for eGo batts from the start.

 

[boomhower1820]

EVOD threads nicely onto eGo without need for cones. The tank actually covers up the cone - its basically made for eGo batts from the start.

Good. One less thing to buy!

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

I actually have 2 eGos and 2 matching evods coming at the moment to give away to smoker friends. Dont know why i didnt recommend the evods.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

If running a 3.7 volt PV...
@ 1.8 ohms
Current= 2.0 Amps
Power= 7.6 Watts

@ 2.4 ohms
Current= 1.54 Amps
Power= 5.7 Watts
So running a higher ohms would ensure longer battery life but cuz less power going thru the coil= less heat/ cooler vape. That's why many now go by the wattage of their vape- example many enjoy a 8 watts vape and prollly why VW PVs are so popular.