Anxiety: or lack of?

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jdm1982

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I've dealt with anxiety and depression my whole life. I smoked 1-2 packs a day for 29 years and I'm one of the lucky took-a-vape-a-quit-smoking-that-day people.

And mine is better as well.

I'm trying not to over-analyze it which as you know is tough for folks like us but I think a good part of it is the freedom we have now. I don't have to stress constantly about:

Do I have cigarettes
When do I need to get more
When can I smoke again
Can I smoke if I go ___
Do I stink
Did I put that cigarette out all the way
Those people over there see me smoking and are giving me dirty looks

It goes on and on.

It's so much freedom after being chained to cigarettes almost 3 decades. Add to the just the fact you kicked the habit and all the good it's doing for your health and how can you not feel better??

Just go with it and enjoy it. That's what I'm doing! :toast:

im certainly enjoying it my buddy. but also really starting to notice a very positive trend here in the responses ive gotten from folks who dealt with the same problem thats now noticeably reduced. your logic defnitely would make sense for sure, but to me i think theres more to it then that. this is very interesting to me.
 

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Agreed! And to add to the list...

How can I apply for that new position....they are anti-smoke people
Oh no!!!! I'm down to 5 analogs tonight...I have to go to town and get some!!

how about putting that ego on the charger and throwing that 18 mg juice you have in a tank and giving it a whirl first?

i think your going to be plesantly surprised how it performs compared to a blu from what ive heard.
 

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I'm going to do it jdm! Get through tomorrow at work and then the weekend is my time to start the eGo. That way in case I end up in the ER (my anxiety talking!! and I think you will know what I mean by anxiety talk) I won't be at work!

your chances are far more likely ending up in the ER from continuing to smoke then you'll ever be vaping. just take your time with it, have a drag or two, see how it hits you. you'll be fine.
 

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Thank you jdm. And thanks for sticking with me through my stupid questions!!

no such thing as a stupd question.especially questions that can lead to saving/extending your life. im new myself, still learning.but my personal experience is this; this is by far one of the best choices ive ever made.seriously, you can't lose.
 

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I've dealt with anxiety and depression my whole life.

Do I have cigarettes
When do I need to get more
When can I smoke again
Can I smoke if I go ___
Do I stink
Did I put that cigarette out all the way
Those people over there see me smoking and are giving me dirty looks

Get out of my head Bontasia! :laugh:

Add to that list:

  • If I go to bed now, I'll still have two cigs left in the morning before I'll have to go out.
  • I'm actually having a good hair day and it's raining and windy outside.
THAT anxiety is gone for me. I only wish the rest would go away, too. I started taking antidepressants when I was in my early 20's. It was many years before I accepted that I was better off with them than without them. I've accepted it's a chemical imbalance and the meds are not a crutch. I'd never question someone taking any maintenance medication. Knowing what I know now, I was born depressed. I have clear memories from about age 3. What a different world we live in.

In the past several years I've also added an anti-anxiety medication. I rarely take it. I never expected not smoking would lessen either issue, so I haven't really paid attention. I don't think it has. But it's still early days.
 

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Well I never heard of "mouth" inhale, but apparently some people only suck into their mouth and out through their nose. Not inhaling into lungs. I think if I had done that...I wouldn't have the coughing like I've had that nudged me into trying this. Who knows. But that's what I've read on here...so I was just asking if you inhale into your lungs or just suck into your mouth and out. It almost sounds like a silly question to me, but the old posts I've read have made me wonder.

Personally, I haven't heard of people just taking the vapor into their mouth (not in the lungs), then out the nose. Maybe that's a cigar smoker thing or something. Usually when people talk about lung vs. mouth inhale, they're talking about either inhaling directly into their lungs vs. bringing the vapor into their mouth then inhaling it into their lungs.

For some reason when I got my first ecig I kept inhaling straight into my lungs. It seemed really harsh. Finally I realized that I didn't even smoke that way. When I smoked, I brought the hit into my mouth for a second, then into my lungs. Once I switched my vaping technique that way it was much smoother.
 

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Get out of my head Bontasia! :laugh:

Add to that list:

  • If I go to bed now, I'll still have two cigs left in the morning before I'll have to go out.
  • I'm actually having a good hair day and it's raining and windy outside.
THAT anxiety is gone for me. I only wish the rest would go away, too. I started taking antidepressants when I was in my early 20's. It was many years before I accepted that I was better off with them than without them. I've accepted it's a chemical imbalance and the meds are not a crutch. I'd never question someone taking any maintenance medication. Knowing what I know now, I was born depressed. I have clear memories from about age 3. What a different world we live in.

In the past several years I've also added an anti-anxiety medication. I rarely take it. I never expected not smoking would lessen either issue, so I haven't really paid attention. I don't think it has. But it's still early days.

Yep I think we could both go on for a good 4 or 5 pages with those :p

I was raised to believe that mental illness didn't exist, you NEVER discussed your problems and many other things that I still work to this day to overcome.

I'm 44 now and I hear "Just get over it, it's the past" allll the time and maybe I should be able to but I find it very difficult. I've been off and on anti-depressants and anxiety meds for a few years - been off for a year or so and I still struggle with it. You're 100% correct I wouldn't look at a diabetic and say ummm do you really need that insulin? Try taking a walk or reading a book - that drug is a crutch but I have that voice in my head constantly when I get a prescription for my brain pills filled.

Vaping has helped me in every way possible and I just want to shout it from the rooftops and buy every smoker I see a starter kit. It's saved my life and now I can focus more on the "rest".

If you need a vape buddy, send me a PM and we can exchange info :)
 

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I am extremely new at this having only vaped for a couple days, but so far I appear to be one of the people who starts vaping and says a more or less permanent goodbye to analogs. Hopefully it will continue to be that way. I've smoked for 40 years and the high point of my consumption was 1 1/2 packs a day. This was a long time ago in college, and my smoking has dwindled considerably since then through no real effort of mine. I was down to 6-7 cigs a day, which I knew I was not going to be able to give up.

What I have learned in the past couple days is the incredible complexity of this smoking habit. There's WAY more going on than just nicotine, which I kind of knew because I don't need 7 cigs a day for nicotine, I need about two. But the psychological habituation is just fascinating! I've actually become convinced that e-cigs have great potential for complete nicotine withdrawal just by the way they completely change that quitting equation from other nicotine replacement devices and certainly from cool turkey. They seem to address a lot of the issues that trip people up when trying to quit. For instance, that cigarette crave one sees stretching into infinity that sends many a quitter racing for the mini-mart...
 

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thats great, but the problem with suffering from anxiety disorder is its often based on irrational fear to begin with.you don't know why you feel the way you do, so it makes the whole face your fear' thing abit more complex then that.it really is something you need to have been through to understand the frustraightion and exhaustion that comes along with that disorder. if it was just a matter of 'sacking up ' and 'grabbing the bull by the horns' it wouldnt nearly be as frustraighting as it is.

What you say it true, but a lot of panic disorder is triggered by over reaction to body sensations and smoking introduces a whole pile of body stimulus/response crap into the panic disorder equation that can be triggers for panic attack. Such as rapid pulse, elevated heart rate, acid reflux problems, stomach upset and nausea when chain smoking. Someone with PD doesn't need their heart rate ramping every time they smoke a cigarette - but it does. Since the preoccupation with body sensation is already in place, chain smoking a couple few butts is an easy way to induce a panic attack, just because cigarettes do what they do.

Vaping won't cure panic disorder, but removing that roller coaster of stimulation brought on by smoking will most likely reduce the frequency and severity of the attacks.

that being said, i feel abesolutely fantastic the past 7 days.take from that what you will.

I'll take it! You will probably find your PD levels out if you can get smoking completely out of the equation. It's not that you aren't getting nicotine from vaping, but you will be getting it at much lower and more consistent levels than you did with smoking. Along with eliminating all that other crap your system gets exposed to from burning processed tobacco. You aren't ramping yourself up and down all the time as you did when exposed to smoking.
 

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What you say it true, but a lot of panic disorder is triggered by over reaction to body sensations and smoking introduces a whole pile of body stimulus/response crap into the panic disorder equation that can be triggers for panic attack. Such as rapid pulse, elevated heart rate, acid reflux problems, stomach upset and nausea when chain smoking. Someone with PD doesn't need their heart rate ramping every time they smoke a cigarette - but it does. Since the preoccupation with body sensation is already in place, chain smoking a couple few butts is an easy way to induce a panic attack, just because cigarettes do what they do.

Vaping won't cure panic disorder, but removing that roller coaster of stimulation brought on by smoking will most likely reduce the frequency and severity of the attacks.



I'll take it! You will probably find your PD levels out if you can get smoking completely out of the equation. It's not that you aren't getting nicotine from vaping, but you will be getting it at much lower and more consistent levels than you did with smoking. Along with eliminating all that other crap your system gets exposed to from burning processed tobacco. You aren't ramping yourself up and down all the time as you did when exposed to smoking.

that really does make sense and is pretty much my thinking exactly. there was thngs in ccigarettes that brought it out of me, had to be. plus, you factor in as soon as i got stressed about anything, id power own 2 sometimes 3 cigarettes in a row and it starts making perfect sense why i was anxious everyday.
 
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