So far im very happy with all the equipment I have, the juice was not the greatest but not bad. I just recieved my first juice order from highbrow. Im letting it aerate , but had to have a taste. Dripped in into a standard boge 2.0 standard carto, mmm good. One thing i notice is that after it goes dry I drip in a few drops till the filler looks saturated , wait a bit for it to settle. I know it is much thicker. I ordered a 20pg/80vg mix and a couple 100 vg to add as flavor. I notice the 20/80 is much thicker and darker than the 20/80 I had from elite. The flavor gets dull after few hits and when i continue to add tastes good for a few more hits again dull again. I am awaiting a couple of tanks, will this help? One of the juices I got to add as flavor enchancer is a clove, but I only added about 4 drops. I know that clove can be hard on cartos and tanks, so I ordered a pyrex tank. I any one had any tips or tricks or reasons for this, please let me know.
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the higher the vg content the thicker the juice and the lower the flavor. just get lower vg, higher pg will be thinner and more flavorful(vg gives more vapor, pg gives more flavor) 
I notice the flavor changed after I use a fresh carto, it goes dry, then I top it off being real careful not to overfill. Again it will taste really good, but after few puffs it goes dry and flavor is not the same again. I took the carto off and it looks like it has leaked. There is juice in the well, and when I blow into the carto a lot of juice come out. Again I top it off, wipe it off and shake it like a thermometer to get it into the carto. I let it sit so it can settle and again it goes kinda dry, good amount of vape, but dry and tasteless. I drip about 3-4 drops and I can hear it making a slurpy sound, take it out look at it and it looks drippy, could I have gotten a bad box or boges? Oh and the carto get pretty hot soon, much sooner than the black boges. I originally used the black covered ones.
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will using a tank work? the black cartos were working fine, now I just ordered 25 of the ss boge cartos. I was thinking it was the new juice or the higher VG. think i will open another box and see how they work, maybe a bad box? I was all excited to use them with a tank, I hope that fixes the problem.
well, thought i would give another box of the silver lr boges, and first puff, great, second puff, it burned, got hot and tasted awful, looked inside and was awful. Used another with my original juice , thinking it might be the new juice and again burned after 2nd puff. Oh well, guess it happens sometimes. Going to contact vendor and see what I can do.
VG takes a lot longer to wick, so I add distilled water to the juice to thin it out. 1 drop per 2 ml is a good start, and works great with my Kanger cartos, which are bottom coil. No negative effect on flavor either.
Thanks for the advise, I will give another one a try. Its a 20pg/80vg Im using, I add a few drops of the 100% juice to give a variety. I was really concerned when I took a puff of one from another box and it burned after 2nd puff. I also notice that the wick/ metal part looks burned and the center part is off center on few and on one it looks as if it was pierced by the wire .I will be back with an update. I did contact the vendor and am waiting on a reply.
No vendor is responsible for what you put in your cartos...but maybe you will get some good advice for next time.
Cartos are fine (if you like the taste of cartos) for thinner juices. I can't stress enough how much an atty will fix your problem. I know carto fans love cartos, but there is generally a trade off with everything. Thicker juices are not a good fit for cartos, period! If you think cartos are easier, I don't think topping-off a carto is somehow remarkably easier than dripping in an atty--really, they are the same act. People always talk about the "work" involved in attys, but if you fill up a carto and it is a dud, or you don't like the flavor then what will you do? You can toss it, which will be a waste of money for the juice and the carto; you could reverse taryn spin and catch it into a "condom", which may put someones eye out; or you could boil it, which will diminish the capacity of the carto and it won't be ready until it dries (at least a day). I promise you there will be a boat-load, or a carto-load of work that can be fixed in about 3 seconds with an atty...unless it's cinnamon...but, bleep cinnamon! I won't comment anymore on this, but I was once where you are, and I am EVER so grateful to Optimo and Jplanet for showing me the way of a dripper.
p.s. Each carto is going to do the same thing with thick juices, so don't think it is a vendor or brand issue. Or, dilute the juice...dilute? Well, if it works?!
oh please comment as much as you want, im still very new, so Im open for all and any info. I was tempted to get an atty, like you said, what the big difference in dripping into an atty or a carto. I just had such good luck with the original 5 black cartos that came with my kit. For the sake of being stubborn, I used the same original juice 20pg/80vg on one of my black ones and it worked fine. I did another black one with the highbrow 20/80 mix and its working fine, no drips no burning. I am going to get an atty, was looking at a few, one from smoke tek and I will look up the Optimo and Jplanet, or those sites or brands of attys?
BTW Im still waiting for my phiniac tank and the smoke tek shorty to come in, do you think that will handle the juice better?
BTW Im still waiting for my phiniac tank and the smoke tek shorty to come in, do you think that will handle the juice better?
Optimo and jplanet are both members here. Some tanks can work fine with thicker juices, but I wouldn't say better than an atty, you would just need to make sure your carto is punced appropriately to feed the juice effectively for the resepctive thickness. There is still much more to the larger picture, but I would look for an authentic Joye atty for the first atty. When, and if you decide to start using an atty, there will be some things you should know, but I will save that until that time comes. What kind of device are you using?
I don't know about the shorty, but I heard you can get a little better flavor than a standard carto, and a lot better flavor than a larger carto.
I don't know about the shorty, but I heard you can get a little better flavor than a standard carto, and a lot better flavor than a larger carto.
im using a SLB KGO 1100 mah 3.7 , I was using the elitevaporwork juice that came with the order 20/80 mix with the 2.0 boge reg size cartos. No leaks , no burning except on first one after I used it for the forth time, I let it get low, and when I put it on a freshly charges batt it burned a bit, but cleaned it out, using the boiling method. Used it again like new. As soon as i went thru the fist ss boges that I just got in and redripped, than I noticed the quick heating and dry taste, when I took it out it was leaking and smokey. Oh well I went over that in above. All the other ss boges got worse and the other box , worse. I am using the original black cartos and doing fine. Oh well live and learn, I guess it was going to well and easy up to now.
I make my own juice at 100% VG and been vaping boge 3.0 in J-tank me and the wife and the big thing you have to do with thick juice in a boge so you don't get a burnt taste after 2or 3 puffs, is when you first start a brand new carto, you have to fill it properly the first time (like almost fludding it) cause if it's not wicked properly the first time , that burnt taste doesn't go away...i've been vaping thick VG for 6 months now and not a single boge gave me problems and been vaping at 4.5 volts to 4.8 with Evo and now with VV3 (lavatube2.0) ...hope this helps and by the way only one hole in my cartos with the J-tank !!!!
thank you I will try flooding it and letting them sit for a longer time. So you dont think its the new cartos? I just dont want to make a big deal with the vendor but it seems strange that the original black boges were fine, and new new ss ones have had so many problems. btw your avatar is great, looks like my expression with all the bad burned leaky cartos.
I still think I got a bad batch of cartos. Ive gone thru 3 out of 5 boxes I got in. Weather I use them with a tank or just filling and using them normal, they get dry and burn after a few refills . The vendor said that they can only take back DOA items, Ive only had 3 cartos stay usable. I got a smoke tech DCT tank yesterday, came with a 1.7 ohm dual prepunched carto in it. It has one tiny hole and its been vaping perfect off the first draw. Noticed the smoke tech have a nice clean center and the filler wicks up so much faster and stays wet all the time. So frustrating, cause I got the smoke tech for my son, and hes been working on that tank all day! I sneaked in and took a few puffs, mmmmmm, good non burned taste, Im jealous.
Try a 2.0 ohm 510 atty with a drip shield and shorty extension. I'd get a sealed and unsealed extension to see which you prefer. Sometimes the sealed make too tight of a draw.
I think the advice above on the pg/vg ratio is right on the money here.Im no expert by any means (noobie here),but I did experience similar problems with burned flavor after I made my 1st DIY juice.I started with a 25/75 pg/vg ratio and after the 2nd drag got a burnt taste.I kinda figured it was the thick juice so I cut the ratio to 30/70,which of coarse droped my nic but the point was to get my juice to work in a carto,(love my cartos).The difference was huge but still by taking long hard drags,(purposely tring to burn it)I succeded in doing just that,I burned it again .After droping to a 35/65 ratio I got the results I was looking for.Plenty of vapor,the ability to drag hard if I felt the need to(dont always)and plenty of flavor with no burned taste.So,now that Ive ruined that batch LOL,I'm off to make another,with a bit more confidence.
I am waiting for shipment of juice. Bought some 50/50 and some 70/30 and some 80/20. I did get a little sample of 80/20 and it was too strong of a TH, kinda burned, but thats me. I am waiting on a carto punch. I also may have put the slots a bit low and could cause the lack of flow. I know now that the juice I was using is very dark and thick and cartos don't like it. Yesterday I was really hurting and needed vape or go out in trash and dig out some old butts. I added some vodka to the thick juice and it worked much, much better. I actually got to vape very well for a while. I know that there is a learning curve. I will definitely give an atty a try. But for now, that I spent 40 dollars on the beautiful tank and 23.oo on all the boge cartos I have to make it work. Im stubborn. I thank all of you for your advise. Im sure you all hear the same topics, why wont this work, why it this doing that. Help , help , help. But this is the place for learning and whining sharing and teaching others to enjoy the vaping lifestyle/hobby.
Okay, okay.....Now ive been looking at attys what do you think of this? its sold out most places but looks like a good one
IKV 510 1.5 ohm
Thank you very much, im trying not so spend more money.
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