Anybody got a subscription to New Scientist?

[Shirtbloke]

New Scientist in the Uk has an article on vaping but unfortunately it's behind a paywall.
It would be nice to know what it says and there's an interesting looking infographic that you can only get to with a subscription.
Here's hoping.
http://www.newscientist.com/article...s.html?cmpid=RSS|NSNS|2012-GLOBAL|online-news

 

[dragonpuff]

New Scientist in the Uk has an article on vaping but unfortunately it's behind a paywall.
It would be nice to know what it says and there's an interesting looking infographic that you can only get to with a subscription.
Here's hoping.
http://www.newscientist.com/article...s.html?cmpid=RSS|NSNS|2012-GLOBAL|online-news

I don't, but judging by the infograph included with the article (which is too small to read much of it), they're trying to make it sound like vaping is dangerous I think I'll pass.

 

[squee]

You can read the whole thing here --> They've been called safe, dangerous, a way to quit smoking

 

[Shirtbloke]

Seems like a fairly balanced roundup. This was the paragraph I found most interesting.......

"For hardcore smokers, though, the benefits of switching seem immeasurable. A recent study comparing the overall harmfulness of cigarettes and e-cigarettes, carried out by the UK's Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, gave cigarettes a score of 99.6 out of 100. E-cigarettes scored just 4 (European Addiction Research, vol 20, p 218)."

 

[Kent C]

You can read the whole thing here --> They've been called safe, dangerous, a way to quit smoking

Thanks! An attempt to be fair and balanced... although this was rather lame - where stupidity or laziness invokes and tends to promote the 'gateway' argument

"After a few months, I have become quite attached to my e-cigarette and use it most days. I would never have smoked as much. I am sure vaping is better than smoking, but the long-term effects are a concern. I found myself more tempted to smoke when my e-cigarette ran out of charge. With that in mind, I have decided to put it away for now."

Get another battery!! ... and probably increase nic level a bit

 

[DC2]

There is a guy in my local liquor store who started using electronic cigarettes about six months ago.
He got quite into it, and even convinced the store to finally start selling some decent electronic cigarette gear.

This is something I have not been able to do for the last number of years.

So I go in this morning to pick up some libations for tonight's Halloween events...
And he tells me he has stopped vaping.

No, he hasn't started smoking again, he just stopped vaping too.

He still has his gear, and says he still picks it up now and then, but doesn't really use it regularly anymore.
That's a win, no matter how you slice it.

I told him I have no intention of ever quitting vaping.
But I elected not to go into detail about what I believe are the true benefits of continued nicotine use.

Maybe another time.
Maybe not.

 

[Nate760]

After a few months, I have become quite attached to my e-cigarette and use it most days. I would never have smoked as much.

When my wife decided to switch to vaping a couple months ago, the first thing I emphasized to her was that vaping is not in any way directly analogous to smoking. When you're first making the transition, you should vape as much as you need to in order to not want a cigarette. If that means vaping constantly, then vape constantly.

This is a misconception that, regrettably, probably results in people going back to smoking who otherwise might not have. It doesn't help when certain cigalike brands put fantastically misleading labels on their products about "cigarette equivalents" and other such nonsense. If your pack of cartos says each one is equivalent to 1-2 packs of cigarettes, and you don't know any better, it's easy to see how people can incorrectly assume they're becoming more nicotine dependent, even though the amount that's actually entering their bloodstream is a tiny fraction of what it was when they were smoking, and it's being absorbed less efficiently at that.

 

[DC2]

When my wife decided to switch to vaping a couple months ago, the first thing I emphasized to her was that vaping is not in any way directly analogous to smoking. When you're first making the transition, you should vape as much as you need to in order to not want a cigarette. If that means vaping constantly, then vape constantly.

This is a misconception that, regrettably, probably results in people going back to smoking who otherwise might not have. It doesn't help when certain cigalike brands put fantastically misleading labels on their products about "cigarette equivalents" and other such nonsense. If your pack of cartos says each one is equivalent to 1-2 packs of cigarettes, and you don't know any better, it's easy to see how people can incorrectly assume they're becoming more nicotine dependent, even though the amount that's actually entering their bloodstream is a tiny fraction of what it was when they were smoking, and it's being absorbed less efficiently at that.

This... all day long.

 

[DrMA]

You can read the whole thing here --> They've been called safe, dangerous, a way to quit smoking

How interesting: slANTZ finally saw the "writing on the wall" and... big surprise... he misread it. It's interesting because I didn't think slANTZ can actually see.