anybody use LR 306 attys?

[SeanFromIthaca]

I'm really curious about these things. Most people who use them seem to really love them.

Anybody out there use em?? I'd like to hear from people who do because I've also heard that generally (from people who know the technical stuff) the best performance boost from ANY LR atty is on a standard 510 or similarly small battery, and that if you try them on an eGo/Riva battery you're overworking it and run the risk of killing the battery much sooner than normal.

So, I'm basically asking this very specific question -- if you use LR 306 attys and don't have ANY problem with them burning up too soon OR burning up your batteries too soon -- what exact brands do you get, and where do you order them from?

Because before buying a 6V solution I'd like to at least TRY LR first.

 

[Drozd]

yes I use them...
the LR 306 that's all the buzz is the cisco 306 which he has made to tighter specs... they're 1.5Ω and you can get them at nhaler, eliquidplanet, vaporflow...about half dozen other places too...

they're an exposed bridge atty with a 510 threading...great for dripping and dipping...

as for what battery to use them on... the LR will eventually burn up a stock 510 or a stock ego/riva/ etc...

the best to use them on is any 18650 size battery, or a high drain 14500, or a high drain 16340....

while you will see a slight improvement using them on a stock battery they really come into their own on the ones I mentioned...

put it like this...
a stock 306 has a resistance of about 2.5Ω ....on a ego type battery that's about 4.1W produced
on a true 3.7V battery that goes to......5.45W
a 1.5Ω LR 306 on an eGo about ......6.83W
and then on one of the batteries I mentioned ..... 9.13W
(a standard resistanced one at 6V would be about 14.4W)

now most consider the "sweet spot" of HV vaping to be between 8-10W so that's right there dead center...

*now I say true 3.7 and those specific batteries because other batteries arent capable of supplying the 2.47A that that atty at 3.7V wants and they experience what's known as voltage sag (those 3 I listed don't they have a drain rate of about 5A so more than enough to fire that atty to it's full potential)

hope that made sense ....lol.....and answered the question for you

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

oddly yes, and no -- haha jk -- yes

oddly because I used to be in the Air Force and studied electronics for 9 months, so I should be an old hand at all that, but it's been 17 years, so I'd need a refresher to say the least

so you're basically saying that without getting one of those three batteries you mentioned, there isn't gonna be much improvement in vapor production, but at the same time it's also going to kill the batteries faster

so where might I acquire one of these batteries?

btw -- it's funny to me that YOU replied given that I was reading a giant post about all of this and it was your posts that I kept re-reading, so I'm sorry for making you go through all the E=I/R or whatever that old formula was -- I was basically just asking where to get all this stuff from people who used it all without issues

 

[dspin]

I use Cisco LR 306 and all the other LR's in his line depending on the juice and my taste at the time. If your thinking of going to
6v just get a big batt mod that does both - 3.7 and 6, then you have a variety of attys to choose, and longer battery life

 

[Drozd]

oddly yes, and no -- haha jk -- yes

oddly because I used to be in the Air Force and studied electronics for 9 months, so I should be an old hand at all that, but it's been 17 years, so I'd need a refresher to say the least

so you're basically saying that without getting one of those three batteries you mentioned, there isn't gonna be much improvement in vapor production, but at the same time it's also going to kill the batteries faster

so where might I acquire one of these batteries?

btw -- it's funny to me that YOU replied given that I was reading a giant post about all of this and it was your posts that I kept re-reading, so I'm sorry for making you go through all the E=I/R or whatever that old formula was -- I was basically just asking where to get all this stuff from people who used it all without issues

pretty much...yeah..
you'll see some improvement but not much not the hyped about "simulated HV vaping" at any rate...

with one of those batteries yes...
but then again you'll see an improvement even in using a standard atty too...

the little chart above... think of the wattage as the heat coming off the atty so the higher the heat the more vapor too...

as for where to get the batteries any number of vendors carry the 18650 size
the IMR high drains I personally get from lighthound though there are some vendors that carry a few of them..
with any of them you're moving into the world of mods and will need a mod casing though... cheapest option is to get a box mod kit from madvapes or the indiidual parts and solder it together yourself...
the box kit's about $8.50 510 Box Mod Kit
the 14500 AW IMR high drain is about $7.50 AW IMR 14500 LiMN Rechargeable Lithium Battery

that's the easiest and least pricey route... (and funnily enough what I'm currently using)

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

yeah they're just so durn expensive hehe -- they definitely look sweet though -- waiting for more reviews of the Vari-whatever (provari?)

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

pretty much...yeah..
you'll see some improvement but not much not the hyped about "simulated HV vaping" at any rate...

with one of those batteries yes...
but then again you'll see an improvement even in using a standard atty too...

the little chart above... think of the wattage as the heat coming off the atty so the higher the heat the more vapor too...

as for where to get the batteries any number of vendors carry the 18650 size
the IMR high drains I personally get from lighthound though there are some vendors that carry a few of them..
with any of them you're moving into the world of mods and will need a mod casing though... cheapest option is to get a box mod kit from madvapes or the indiidual parts and solder it together yourself...
the box kit's about $8.50 510 Box Mod Kit
the 14500 AW IMR high drain is about $7.50 AW IMR 14500 LiMN Rechargeable Lithium Battery

that's the easiest and least pricey route... (and funnily enough what I'm currently using)

oh hell yeah -- that is friggin sweet man -- I'm SOOO glad I asked hahaha -- can't wait to tell the old man -- he is also interested in big big vapes -- thanks so much!

I fix my guitar cords and stuff so soldering is no problem for me -- only thing I remember how to do -- the hands-on part....

EDIT: how long does that batt last that you've got in there? probably not an issue if I can charge more than one at a time - figured I'd ask anyway since you're here

 

[Drozd]

yeah they're just so durn expensive hehe -- they definitely look sweet though -- waiting for more reviews of the Vari-whatever (provari?)

exactly...while I'm waiting and saving money for the expensive big battery mods..that's why I'm using a cheap box and they're so rediculous easy to solder and put together

solder wire already on the switch to one post of the button... other post of the button to center pin of connector... shell of connector to negative battery spring... (led optional.. but thats just long led leg to resistor and then to button post...and short leg to the plate that holds the battery spring)

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

also if I get the DSD 2 Station Charger and the 15mm Charging Spacer Aluminum, does it light up like chargers designed for specific batteries? or do I just have to 'know' when it's done charging by time or whatever

probably a dumb question, but I like to cover all bases so I don't have to worry about toasting stuff

 

[Drozd]

oh hell yeah -- that is friggin sweet man -- I'm SOOO glad I asked hahaha -- can't wait to tell the old man -- he is also interested in big big vapes -- thanks so much!

I fix my guitar cords and stuff so soldering is no problem for me -- only thing I remember how to do -- the hands-on part....

EDIT: how long does that batt last that you've got in there? probably not an issue if I can charge more than one at a time - figured I'd ask anyway since you're here

that one lasts me most of the day...

the math behind it would lead to about 873 seconds continuous

or

291 (3 second long) button presses

or just short of 5 hours if I hit it once a minute every minute
I usually got through one and a half a day

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

yeah okay that sounds perfect for me -- on a big day I might kill it if I'm taking huge drags all day -- but not likely -- this 900maH battery I'm using right now lasted me 32 hours a few days ago, and heavy vaping, so that many maH isn't necessary, especially when I sleep 6-7 hours a night, which is more than enough time to recharge the battery, provided it isn't going to be hurt by being left on the charger too long

 

[Drozd]

also if I get the DSD 2 Station Charger and the 15mm Charging Spacer Aluminum, does it light up like chargers designed for specific batteries? or do I just have to 'know' when it's done charging by time or whatever

probably a dumb question, but I like to cover all bases so I don't have to worry about toasting stuff

not familiar with that one it looks like it has one light for both bays so it's probably split output...

I use the WF-139 Ultrafire WF-139 Charger for 14500 / 17500 / 18500 / 18650 / RCR123 3.7 volt Lithium Battery Charger which I like because the bays are split each with indicator lights
and there's a car adapter available for that charger...

else I'd go with the wf-188 (which'll do about every Li-ion and 3V LiFePo4 16340 too (if you ever do get into 6V vaping)

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

alright man thanks for hooking me up -- I'm getting paid next tuesday, so I'll get the soldering iron warmed up ;D

thanks again!

 

[Drozd]

alright man thanks for hooking me up -- I'm getting paid next tuesday, so I'll get the soldering iron warmed up ;D

thanks again!

no problems...have fun making stuff

 

[BlackMetalBuick]

I have a 306 that arrived today waiting for me. Getting over a cold so I haven't been vaping. I'll let you know what I think of it.