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What is it that's so great about the provari that people are willing to spend so much on what is effectively old technology? The power output realities are that they're equaled by many other manufacturers. Is jt just that it's a brand people like?

remember how you were just posting about how your expectations were exceeded on the Kabuki ... and how everyone who has been raving about it are so spot on?

rinse and repeat with the ProVari ... similar kind of magic going on there :cool:
 

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Alright. You guys win. So I wasted $18 on temp
coils then. I may as well try them.

As for the rattlesnake sound that was meant to have a wink face after it. It was a joke as I know that's not meant to happen. Totally screwed that one up.

I feel temp control allows me
To push to the absolute limit of power without risking restoring coils.

Anecdotally my temp control coils stay a lot cleaner. Not sure if that's more the material differences than temp management.
 

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I'll give it a try. Fwiw I don't feel in socket chin the liquid though. The taste can be reoocated on a temp control device. The wattage for sure changes the way this juice tastes by it's a juice hat demands high watts. I'll try this next tank your way though. Thanks for he advise. I'll also let you know what's what when the vapor shark nickel coils arrive. I doubt the efficacy compared to home crown nickel builds but we shall remain hopeful until proven otherwise.

Do you really think I have not had at least 100 temp controls through a Kabuki at this point? You're welcome to use the device any way you see fit, it's yours after all, but honestly, my opinion of the effectiveness of temp control for improvement of flavor is that it's a silly notion.

In blind testing not ONE test subject preferred the flavor from a temp control coil. On any liquid. At any power setting. Not one.
 

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remember how you were just posting about how your expectations were exceeded on the Kabuki ... and how everyone who has been raving about it are so spot on?

rinse and repeat with the ProVari ... similar kind of magic going on there :cool:
To what end. The power tastes better? I guess I don't see what you mean or how it could be. If power is being out putted purely and measurable. Then it is what it is. It's power. The kabuki has a lot more subjective stuff going on than electricity

Just asking. I feel like saying this power is better than this is difficult if when measured the outpourings identical.
 

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To what end. The power tastes better? I guess I don't see what you mean or how it could be. If power is being out putted purely and measurable. Then it is what it is. It's power. The kabuki has a lot more subjective stuff going on than electricity

Just asking. I feel like saying this power is better than this is difficult if when measured the outpourings identical.

it's the ProVape chip ... it's Alien Magic :blink:
 

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Do you really think I have not had at least 100 temp controls through a Kabuki at this point? You're welcome to use the device any way you see fit, it's yours after all, but honestly, my opinion of the effectiveness of temp control for improvement of flavor is that it's a silly notion.

In blind testing not ONE test subject preferred the flavor from a temp control coil. On any liquid. At any power setting. Not one.
Well I appreciate your experiences and in your tank. I can tell you in a series of rebuilds goes it has made massive improvements. Is there a reason why it may be effective with rebuilds vs disposables? Possible. I can say I've done a series of abs testing with a group of five regarding temp control using same juice and atomizer. Temp control win eatery time. So I wondrous why we had such a vast difference. And what's the alien magic in the provaris. .

If you do a power test and power comes out as expected then it's power do I gout as expected. What is the chip doing to manipulate the battery? I don't follow.
 

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These were major topics within this thread. If you search a few pages back, you'll find them.


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How's pocket firing? I'm not sure I need any more mods. I need to see how the temp coils are too. They should improve flavor by 20% or so

Yah I have to be honest with you. I appreciate the looking out but I wouldn't spend the money for those features. I'd buy an m class yihi or Dna 200 for that kind of money.

What is it that's so great about the provari that people are willing to spend so much on what is effectively old technology? The power output realities are that they're equaled by many other manufacturers. Is jt just that it's a brand people like?

May I ask, why are you here?
 
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I really like the way the red new provari looks it's very nice. It says it's durable but Rees a skin available for it. Is it durable enough the finish will survive pocketing ? Also then I'd have to get a provari bottom kabuki too right

You guys are going to have my mind flipped inside out trying all these new things.
 

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Power is power?

Therein lies the problem...

The quality of the power makes a bigger difference than many want to believe.

The very fact that you need to run your Kabuki at 4 watts higher than nearly any of the Provape users run theirs at should be telling you something.
 

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what's the alien magic in the provaris. .

If you do a power test and power comes out as expected then it's power do I gout as expected. What is the chip doing to manipulate the battery? I don't follow.

as I said ... it's the ProVape chip.

I don't really know anybody who can actually tell you real information about the chip ... ProVape tends to keep that stuff to themselves :blink:
 

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I really like the way the red new provari looks it's very nice. It says it's durable but Rees a skin available for it. Is it durable enough the finish will survive pocketing ? Also then I'd have to get a provari bottom kabuki too right

You guys are going to have my mind flipped inside out trying all these new things.
Just go slow h00, Just go slow.

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Power is power?

Therein lies the problem...

The quality of the power makes a bigger difference than many want to believe.

The very fact that you need to run your Kabuki at 4 watts higher than nearly any of the Provape users run theirs at should be telling you something.


Also I said assuming it's being outputted evenly. Like the DNA and yihi chip may put power out in VW mode the exact same way provari does, as may the yihi 350 chipset. I need to go look at the comparisons Busardo did on the p3.

You're only looking for a few things. ThE main one being the ability to hold the output evenly under duress. Then time to ramp if any and release. If those three things are equal the devices for powering value are effectively equal.

I had to return my dna200 device due to a series of problems they couldn't fit so I lost my ability to show some graphs of this stuff.

I am not saying all power is equal from all devices. Nothing like that ever came from me. I said assuming outputted power is equal.

As a lifelong technologist I'm exceedingly well versed with power, who's to argue a single cell in a mech mod isn't the magic touch.

Unfortunately aspire doesn't make coils that fit what I want my amperage output to be.
 
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Alright. You guys win. So I wasted $18 on temp
Coils then. I may as well try them.

As for the rattlesnake sound that was meant to have a wink face after it. It was a joke as I know that's not meant to happen. Totally screwed that one up.

I feel temp control allows me
To push to the absolute limit of power without risking restoring coils.

Anecdotally my temp control coils stay a lot cleaner. Not sure if that's more the material differences than temp management.

Use them by all means…they work great for what they are, there's just not a magical leap in flavor.
 

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Use them by all means…they work great for what they are, there's just not a magical leap in flavor.
Of course I'll,give it a try. If I don't think they're worth using I won't buy them again. But considering I'm on the edge for the kabuki of where I'd just like a hair more vapor I a, going to run on the edge of power. The tc module typically cleans up,flavor when you're right on the border ime
 

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There are hundreds of thousands of people that didn't want to believe ProVari had "cleaner" power, that now use the devices, and they WILL not fall for false claims of "more is better"

QUALITY is better... A better regulated supply is better. A supply that ACTUALLY puts out the power that it claims to is better.

There is a "smoothness" to a ProVari that absolutely NO other device has approached, and not even the Mighty DNA gives such a result, and when you consider that I build devices with the DNA board (though, none with temp control) that should also be telling you something. I'm in the ProVape forum, Vaping a ProVari as I type this.

And Phil is great to watch, but... he's not an "engineer" in the sense that he's not an EE... Not sure what his observations will do for you. Maybe he drives a train... That's an engineer too, right?

So there you go.
 

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You're in,y looking for s few things. E main one being the agi,it's to hold the output evenly under duress. Then time to ramp if any and release. If those three things are equal the devices for powering vslue techno,Katy are effectively equal.

If you could translate this to English, that sure would be useful.
 
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