Are you Zen's engineer? And I have to repeat what I've said twice now... other tank makers manage to avoid this problem.
Anybody Using A Kabuki?
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Perhaps you missed the personal references made about a member?!?
I did not view them as a complaint against a product at all.
Jim
There are 73 search hits in this thread on "cracked" and "broken". Yes, it's my opinion.
The ironic thing is that the fan boiz seem to have no idea how much damage they do to HOH here.
And over 500 in the forum in general using these words...
Not sure I follow?
Your tank broke, and you think that it should not have?
That's fine. Could you explain what you did to break it?
Thanks, Jim
I reassembled it. That's all it took to break it. And I was careful because this tank's rep preceded it. It is crystal clear, reading through this thread, that this is a widespread problem with this tank. The fact that we even have to argue this out is ridiculous. I'm not wasting my time arguing over denial.
And a fair number of reports like yours, broken while assembling or taking apart.
My theory, other tank designs have silicon gaskets cushioning the ends of the glass, and sandwiching it to make a seal. This method will isolate the glass from any impact vibrations from the metal. The Kabuki glass is met at the ends with a steel plane. Any shock to the mod has the possibility of transferring those vibrations to the ends of the glass where it was cut, the weak point if you will, where micro fractures can form and later propagate, this is just some armchair speculation.
Well done, E! If you would be so kind as to teach me how to search ECF in a reasonable manner, I would be most appreciative. I'm pretty sure that if I have a pet peeve, it is not Kabuki glass, but ECF's turn toward such high tech that we can no longer find anything.
And bravo to your search as well, tho all I see is a bazillion threads mentioning pyrex. I get SO lost with our "search" features here.
Lolz, you know I adore you, so if I were to comment on one of your posts.... you might not think I do. But I do, and yet, I feel the need to say something...
(deciding)
Ok, decided.
I'm sorry that it's you I'm quoting, but since we are on the pet peeve discussion....
I don't really understand why members here are less than willing to give up info at times. Why should another member have to go bonkers trying to find something that someone else already knows?
As difficult as it is now, with this software, it would be incredibly helpful if everyone would just link, or say what they know.
I, for one, would so greatly appreciate it!
I'm sorry that it's you I'm quoting, but since we are on the pet peeve discussion....
I don't really understand why members here are less than willing to give up info at times. Why should another member have to go bonkers trying to find something that someone else already knows?
As difficult as it is now, with this software, it would be incredibly helpful if everyone would just link, or say what they know.
I, for one, would so greatly appreciate it!
I don't know how to explain it, but I've been using the original glass on two Kabuki's. Bought one in July and the other in October. I just tighten 'em down tight and back em off a touch. Both have taken tumbles and neither has broken. But then I've never broken any glass tanks.
I do NOT search using ECF - I google and then normally there is at least 1 ECF post in the search - and most times several and I can click the "More from this site" thing....
I respectfully disagree! There is plenty amazing aspects to this amazing little tank! First and foremost is the amazing customer service followed by a lifetime warranty, country of origin, great flavor, airflow, set it and forget it airflow screw, ease of cleaning, direct coil to contact pin, P3 connector and more vapor than smoke I got from analogs.
Out of five Kabuki's I have broke one tank and I broke twice as many Nautilus'!
That's because he linked to a search containing every post that used the word "Pyrex". He wasn't trying to be helpful. Just cute.
Ive used pyrex from both Spectrum and IBTanked.
Neither are what I would call quality glass.
Spectrum is a bit better but the major issue with both of them is thin walls.
Phiniac used to have the best glass on the market.... because it was thicker (2 or 3 times as thick as IBTanked glass) AND it went through a special annealing process.....but with the decline in the use of carto tanks they no longer offer it.
I responded in kind cause the member was being a bit of a dcik...
My Bad, Jim
LOLz, Jim
Not So... Smarty Pants.
That search result has every occurrence of the word Pyrex from the member Zen's Posts...
So that you might understand his thoughts on it.
I can see you didn't read it?!?
Jim
My experience is probably one of those but I do need to make it clear it was completely my fault. I've used glass tanks wherever possible since I started vaping (nearly 3 years ago) and have only had 2 breakages. One was the Kabuki when I first had it and it fell over and cracked - the other was a SnP tank when I was reassembling after cleaning. Both were quartz glass which is probably a coincidence - but I do prefer borosilicate glass if given the option. I do chalk both breakages down to user error - it seems to me the weakness of glass tanks generally are a) if they are dropped/ fall over and b) when the glass is being replaced either after cleaning or when o-rings are being changed as even a slight angle when installing can stress the glass. Since the Kabuki accident (August) I have used at least 1 Kabuki every day and the glass has remained intact, even though there have been a couple more 'falls' and I have changed the o-rings a number of times. I do try to minimise removing the glass completely - which of course means I need one complete tank per o-ring colour
I have to say that I have used IBTanked glass for years - mainly in carto tanks - and I have always been really happy with the quality. They are really, really cheap (I have a box full of 'back up' glass gathering dust)- and the shipping costs to the UK are brilliant. I do only buy clear, plain glass though - if getting a bespoke design I would probably want the thickest glass going as knowing my luck that would become breakage no.3
I suppose my take is - HOH prefers quarz glass and I assume it is good quality as it is a reputable company. I prefer borosilicate so I buy back ups in that. I think it's good for experiences to be aired as it can flag any potential problems with suppliers etc., but my experience is that glass is fragile and breaks under certain conditions however careful I try to be.
It was our dear classie. Not moi. I use them as charms.
coldgin, I'm sure glad to hear I'm not the only one who tracks fills! And now I can do that in a much neater and cleaner and more organized way, thanks to DPL.
(he IS the king of spreadsheets!)
Better you than me, dearie.
I change the coil when it starts to taste bad.
Your link returned to me 319 hits, with no filter on Zen....
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