Anybody Using A Kabuki?

Status
Not open for further replies.

StealthyTX

Hates brass
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 13, 2012
1,094
5,849
Austin, TX
I don't think he's fishing at all. It's sad around here when a person cannot express their displeasure over a product they purchased (& not a cheap product I might add) without being made to look like some sort of clown. It's this very behavior that has driven many from what amounts to "fan" threads for actual threads in which they can express themselves without someone throwing shade!

[IMO] There is NOTHING amazing about the Kabuki. It's an $85 tank that takes Nautilus coils. Oh wow!

How many more tanks need to break before someone realizes these aren't just isolated issues. Apparently there is a problem. Hell, I used to work in manufacturing so it wouldn't surprise me if every Kabuki tank wasn't made to spec!

And a fair number of reports like yours, broken while assembling or taking apart.

My theory, other tank designs have silicon gaskets cushioning the ends of the glass, and sandwiching it to make a seal. This method will isolate the glass from any impact vibrations from the metal. The Kabuki glass is met at the ends with a steel plane. Any shock to the mod has the possibility of transferring those vibrations to the ends of the glass where it was cut, the weak point if you will, where micro fractures can form and later propagate, this is just some armchair speculation.

I've been following the thread for awhile, and I do remember reading posts about these tanks breaking for no apparent reason during filling/reassembly, and because of that, I have been VERY cautious during filling. I know that if that happened to me with a $90-150 tank, I'd be ...... too. Fortunately that hasn't happened to me yet.
 

BumbleBee

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 24, 2012
553
639
SouthEastern PA, USA
I've been following the thread for awhile, and I do remember reading posts about these tanks breaking for no apparent reason during filling/reassembly, and because of that, I have been VERY cautious during filling. I know that if that happened to me with a $90-150 tank, I'd be ...... too. Fortunately that hasn't happened to me yet.

That's what happened to me. First total breakdown/cleaning, the glass cracked the length of the tube when reassembling. I wasn't forcing it, as a matter of fact, I was being quite careful as I knew I didn't have replacement glass for it (Provape was out of stock when I ordered the tank). I've been super careful with this tank, as it is expensive (to me anyway). Had I dropped it, had it rolled off a table, or been bumped, it would have been a "my bad" and life goes on. But all I was doing was putting it back together.

One of the things I wonder about is the lack of a spare glass in the package. My Nauti came with spare glass, I believe the Subtank has spare glass in the kit too (though I may be wrong). I'm pretty sure all of my tanks EXCEPT my Mini Nauti's came with spare glass. Just one, but enough that you have a fall back while you order a replacement.

I ordered some replacement glass from Phiniac, and seeing as I have no experience with their glass I ordered 2. So, all in all, not that big of a deal. I'm just rather unhappy that I currently have a 90$ tank sitting on my nightstand, totally useless, until said glass is received.

I like the tank, I really do. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a good swap coils and go tank. But I wouldn't forget to mention that they might want to have some spare glass handy.

YMMV
 

darkangel07760

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 29, 2015
435
1,393
50
just got my kabuki yesterday, vaped out of it, loved it. then i unscrewed the bottom to add more juice, noticed the coil stayed screwed into he tank, and I cannot get it out. wtf? anyone else have this problem? i tried using pliers to unscrew it but only succeeded in removing the glass tank. i am going to bring it into my vape shop to see what they can do. sigh.
 
  • Like
Reactions: chrisz

gnees

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 31, 2014
3,061
25,752
Zephyrhills Fl.
just got my kabuki yesterday, vaped out of it, loved it. then i unscrewed the bottom to add more juice, noticed the coil stayed screwed into he tank, and I cannot get it out. ...? anyone else have this problem? i tried using pliers to unscrew it but only succeeded in removing the glass tank. i am going to bring it into my vape shop to see what they can do. sigh.
I've only had this happen once. And was able to get it out with pliers. On the other hand, some people try to leave the coil in the chimney, so they can add a little extra juice.
 

darkangel07760

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 29, 2015
435
1,393
50
I've only had this happen once. And was able to get it out with pliers. On the other hand, some people try to leave the coil in the chimney, so they can add a little extra juice.
i carefully took the glass tank off, and with some elbow grease i was able to get it off. dang!
oh and i have been reading all this back and forth about the glass tank... i dropped it last night from a height of three feet (it was still attached to my provari) onto my concrete garage floor and it did not break. i think the only reason why that happened was because of sheer luck.
 

gnees

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 31, 2014
3,061
25,752
Zephyrhills Fl.
i carefully took the glass tank off, and with some elbow grease i was able to get it off. dang!
oh and i have been reading all this back and forth about the glass tank... i dropped it last night from a height of three feet (it was still attached to my provari) onto my concrete garage floor and it did not break. i think the only reason why that happened was because of sheer luck.
You might want to look into getting some spare tanks, if you're going to drop it again.:)

Phiniac - Custom Etching for the Vaping Community
 

JD53

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 31, 2015
196
537
72
Bloomington, Illinois
i carefully took the glass tank off, and with some elbow grease i was able to get it off. dang!
oh and i have been reading all this back and forth about the glass tank... i dropped it last night from a height of three feet (it was still attached to my provari) onto my concrete garage floor and it did not break. i think the only reason why that happened was because of sheer luck.
When you replace the coil, Screw it in the base very, very tightly. It should stay in the base next time around. When you screw the base back into the tank, be gentle and don't over tighten. I usually tighten the base to the tank all the way then back it off just a touch.
 
Last edited:

Housedag

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 20, 2014
109
271
Canada
I'd like to hear any reports from those using Spectrum replacement Pyrex tanks. Do they leak or otherwise have fitment issues? Have they broken? I'd like to hear any results, good or bad.

My experience with Spectrum wasn't very good.

I ordered 4 glass replacement tanks for my kabukis (2clear, 1 turquoise blue & 1 metallic). Including shipping, the order cost me approx $50.00 Canadian.

The clear tanks were slightly too long causing the glass to become stuck so that I could not refill it, and when I tried the first one it shattered. The 2nd clear one was also too long, & when I wrote to Mike, I was under the impression that he didn't believe me.he insisted several times that the Kabuki was out of spec.

I sent him pics of my orig cracked kabuki tank & his tank, showing the difference in height. He wanted measurements done with a caliper. I don't own a caliper. Then he insisted I mail him back the clear tank, along with my hoh tank. I did so, at my expense, and received another email from him, still not accepting responsibility for the problem, stating something to the effect of this small amount of difference shouldn't cause a problem.

I had finally had enough and told him to shove it.

Btw. The metallic tank cracked one day for no reason. I am still using the turquoise tank.

I will now be ordering my spares from Fasttech.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

stillnotsmoking

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 1, 2013
1,379
2,092
GA, USA
I have a couple HOH quartz tanks but I havnt used them for fear of breaking them. The PC tank is a great option for me--no tank cracker juices for me so that's not an issue. I do have a pack of fasttech glass tanks on the way so we will see how the quality of those are.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
 

Saltwater

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 29, 2013
154
350
NC
I've been using the spectrum tanks on one of mine. It fits pretty loose on the orings. Have dropped it once and it hasn't broke. I did order two spare tanks with my first kabuki. I guess if I had not ordered the spares I would have broken one by now, just how my luck goes.
_IMG_000000_000000.jpg
 

ScandaLeX

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 6, 2013
12,893
58,154
PhiLLy
My experience with Spectrum wasn't very good.

I ordered 4 glass replacement tanks for my kabukis (2clear, 1 turquoise blue & 1 metallic). Including shipping, the order cost me approx $50.00 Canadian.

The clear tanks were slightly too long causing the glass to become stuck so that I could not refill it, and when I tried the first one it shattered. The 2nd clear one was also too long, & when I wrote to Mike, I was under the impression that he didn't believe me.he insisted several times that the Kabuki was out of spec.

I sent him pics of my orig cracked kabuki tank & his tank, showing the difference in height. He wanted measurements done with a caliper. I don't own a caliper. Then he insisted I mail him back the clear tank, along with my hoh tank. I did so, at my expense, and received another email from him, still not accepting responsibility for the problem, stating something to the effect of this small amount of difference shouldn't cause a problem.

I had finally had enough and told him to shove it.

Btw. The metallic tank cracked one day for no reason. I am still using the turquoise tank.

I will now be ordering my spares from Fasttech.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm a little lot confused. Did you order your spares from Spectrum or HoH? If from Spectrum, how is the tank being too long Mikes' fault? :blink:

Note 5!!!
 

Susan W.

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 30, 2013
8,195
11,970
Torrance, CA
Ive used pyrex from both Spectrum and IBTanked.

Neither are what I would call quality glass.

Spectrum is a bit better but the major issue with both of them is thin walls.

Phiniac used to have the best glass on the market.... because it was thicker (2 or 3 times as thick as IBTanked glass) AND it went through a special annealing process.....but with the decline in the use of carto tanks they no longer offer it.

I just used Spectrum and IBTanked as examples of places to buy borosilicate tanks. Phiniac is another place.
 

DPLongo22

"Vert De Ferk"
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 17, 2011
32,979
182,931
Midworld
Personally, I've used both "pyrex" and quartz tubes and have had them both break on occasion. Recently a 3 foot fall onto tile was just too much for that quartz tank to handle. :| However, a very wide walled pyrex (on an earlier similar sized tank) did the same thing with a similar fall.

I strongly disagree that there is a problem with the Kabuki glass. I think one break in 5 months is pretty darn good for the various oops this vaper can have with her gear.

Back to differences in the types of glass --

Like much, there are various opinions on the type of glass used for our tanks. I found this quote from IB Tanked and thought it may be of interest here as it clearly says that all "pyrex" is not the same. As I understand is, borosilicate is the glass we loosely call pyrex.

"Not all borosilicate is equal, there are maybe only a handful of manufacturers who produce high quality borosilicate glass. Ours is produced by Simax and they are regarded as well as it gets in glass tubing. Most borosilicate glass of chinese origin is not considered as a quality product in dimensional consistency, true borosilicate component ratio or annealing which is where stress is relieved from the glass and a big part of where its strength comes from so its impossible to tell what you will get from one lot to the next."

I've read that sentiment a few times from various people during my vaping adventures. It helps explain how FT glass is often not as durable as other offerings.

Here's the whole thread that quote is from, if anyone wants to read this view in detail:

The Glass Facts

Great post, Tea - thanks.

And here I sit, Dr. Destructo personified, having not yet broken even one Kabuki tank (CRACK!). Oh well...

Kidding. Seriously - a bit of caution works wonders. If I can do it, anyone can. I guess it should be said that mine only sit on box mods, and never leave the house (said, "bit of caution"). I've changed o-rings more than a couple of times too. Just very carefully. I treat it like it's made of glass. :blink:

As for borosilicate, ask any Billet Box owner how their Boro tanks are holding up. You've got a 50/50 chance there that something broke. Delrin, on the other hand, rocks. I wish ALL tanks were made like the BB delrins.

Just my two pennies. Carry on.
 

Housedag

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 20, 2014
109
271
Canada
I'm a little lot confused. Did you order your spares from Spectrum or HoH? If from Spectrum, how is the tank being too long Mikes' fault? :blink:

Note 5!!!
Yes, sorry for the confusion. The owner of Spectrum is a Mike as well. I just think of Zen as Zen. Lol.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Housedag

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 20, 2014
109
271
Canada
I also want to add that initially I was very impressed w Spectrum. I had added a note to my order to ask for extra orings, stating that I was willing to pay extra, just send me the bill, and Mike sent them for free, along w a personalized note, and shipping was very prompt. It was only when I ran into fit issues that we had a problem.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

YoursTruli

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 27, 2012
4,406
14,895
Ohio
I also want to add that initially I was very impressed w Spectrum. I had added a note to my order to ask for extra orings, stating that I was willing to pay extra, just send me the bill, and Mike sent them for free, along w a personalized note, and shipping was very prompt. It was only when I ran into fit issues that we had a problem.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

and honestly that is the difference (to me anyways) between good and bad sellers regardless of the product, how they respond to problems/issues matters just as much if not more than the products they sell. Your situation was handled very badly IMHO and this is not someone I would ever care to deal with.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread