Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[YoursTruli]

Yes that is correct. At this rate I am going through a lot of coils. It is indeed frustrating. I am using authentic nautilus BVC 1.8 coils. I think the max VG I am using is causing my problem. I found a 50/50 juice I will try and see how that does I just have to make sure I have enough of it to try.

I think if the Nautilus coils had larger wicking holes I wouldn't have such a hard time but who knows. Its just annoying because I love both of my Radius/Kabuki combos but for right now they are just sitting until I sort this out. I know I need to try and different juice too

Well, one thing I noticed and I know this has been mentioned before but the non-authentic nautilus BVC coils have larger wicking holes. My only problem with them was I use a higher PG eliquid 70/30 or 65/35 and it caused gurgling and leaking for me in the Kabuki, but not in the actual nautilus's themselves though, I use them regularly in those.

 

[aldenf]

Yes that is correct. At this rate I am going through a lot of coils. It is indeed frustrating. I am using authentic nautilus BVC 1.8 coils. I think the max VG I am using is causing my problem. I found a 50/50 juice I will try and see how that does I just have to make sure I have enough of it to try.

I think if the Nautilus coils had larger wicking holes I wouldn't have such a hard time but who knows. Its just annoying because I love both of my Radius/Kabuki combos but for right now they are just sitting until I sort this out. I know I need to try and different juice too

If it's purely a wicking issue, it is my understanding that the Triton Mini coils are much better wickers. YMMV but it may be worth a shot.

 

[GeekyGeezer]

Well, one thing I noticed and I know this has been mentioned before but the non-authentic nautilus BVC coils have larger wicking holes. My only problem with them was I use a higher PG eliquid 70/30 or 65/35 and it caused gurgling and leaking for me in the Kabuki, but not in the actual nautilus's themselves though, I use them regularly in those.

Now I'm confused. I thought that the genuine coils had the holes enlarged at some time in their production. I'm not sure if it was when they made the change from fiber to cotton, but it somehow seems that's correct.

I have both styles here since I always keep a stock of them and have never had a problem though I seldom go above 50/50.

 

[Valkyrie_kara]

its funny, i can order 5 boxes of 1.6 ohm coil heads from the same vendor and get a mix of small and larger wicking holes...happened with mt baker and vapor dna...
dont know the pg/vg ratio of suicide bunny, just know its on the thicker side and mr eliquid i use is 50/50...dont seem to have issues with either at 11 watts

 

[YoursTruli]

Now I'm confused. I thought that the genuine coils had the holes enlarged at some time in their production. I'm not sure if it was when they made the change from fiber to cotton, but it somehow seems that's correct.

I have both styles here since I always keep a stock of them and have never had a problem though I seldom go above 50/50.

its funny, i can order 5 boxes of 1.6 ohm coil heads from the same vendor and get a mix of small and larger wicking holes...happened with mt baker and vapor dna...
dont know the pg/vg ratio of suicide bunny, just know its on the thicker side and mr eliquid i use is 50/50...dont seem to have issues with either at 11 watts

I am not experienced enough with them to say in absolutes. Just personally and in different sources I have read, the non-authentic have larger wicking holes, I can see this difference in the fasttech fakes and authentic ones I purchased from MFS, yet both perform well in my nautilus tanks. I have only tried one of the fakes in my Kabuki tank and maybe it is because I use a 70/30 mix it flooded and leaked like crazy out the airhole to the point of running down the side of my provari, I have not had that issue with the authentic coils.

 

[jwbnyc]

Okay, when Aspire switched to cotton, there was a period of smaller wicking hole coils built with cotton, then they went to larger wicking holes with cotton.

I'm guessing there is a bunch of cotton coils with the small holes out there getting sold off, but the current production should be cotton with larger wicking holes.

But, it's China so.. you never know.

 

[newyork13]

A repost of the video:



I had the coil-sticking-in-chimney problem early on with the 510 and, on occasion, the P3 Kabuki.

All I can say is that making sure the coil was in the base tightly, and backing the coil around until it clicked into the chimney threads before screwing it in fully, solved the problem.

I use one of those rubber jar opener clothes, or a piece of paper towel, to get a good grip on the coil, and screw it down as tightly as possible.

Seems to be working.

Yes regarding the coil in the base tightly.
On the coil sticking into the chimney: once just by accident, I dropped the coil/base into the tank and gave it a little push downward and it made the same clicky sound. So, I didn't backward turn it. Just forward turn it.
Ever since, that's all I've done, just seat it in the tank making sure it's level, listening for a click, then thread it in, and never had the coil stuck in the chimney. If that makes any sense.

 

[Katdarling]

Ain't vaping fun!!!!!!

You never know what surprises await.

I rather like that...


(PS. I've used a variety of Naughty coils, and yes, some have had chimney stick. No matter to me. I still subscribe to the @DPLongo22 method of more liquid in the tank!)

(PPS. I have NO idea if this makes any difference, but I use 65/35 PG/VG, aka NLV, with no probs.)

 

[ENAUD]

@Garibaldi , one more thing came to mind. I don't know if you are a MTL or lung hitter, but you could also try to turn the airflow screw in some while lowering the power to try and get more juice drawn to the coil with the extra pressure difference from a restricted airflow.

 

[coldgin96]

Just received Ti & GMZ Kabuki today. Haven't used Ti yet. White o rings on GMZ leaked like a sieve and had to replace before being functional. Good thing I had replacements...

 

[Garibaldi]

If it's purely a wicking issue, it is my understanding that the Triton Mini coils are much better wickers. YMMV but it may be worth a shot.

Can you use the Triton Mini coils in the Kabuki?

 

[Garibaldi]

@Garibaldi , one more thing came to mind. I don't know if you are a MTL or lung hitter, but you could also try to turn the airflow screw in some while lowering the power to try and get more juice drawn to the coil with the extra pressure difference from a restricted airflow.

I will try that. Ok I am trying a juice I have that is 50/50 and will see how that does. I have used this exact juice on my Aspire nautilus using the 1.8 BVC coils on my P3 and the coil would last several week. So hopefully I will see the same results in the Kabuki with this juice. The juice I was using is Coil Hunny Berry Bear. Wonderful juice but again its max VG so I wonder if that is the problem. I am running the same juice in a Silo Beast tank with a 0.5 coil and as I would expect it runs fine.

I think the use of Coil Hunny at max VG was just too much for the Nautilus coil to handle. I will keep running the 50/50 in the Kabuki w/ the Nautilus 1.8 BVC until it I get that burned taste and see how long it goes. I have already gone through one tank with no issues. So fingers crossed its just the max VG that was causing the trouble.

And as I mentioned above can you use the Triton Mini coils in the Kabuki or is it recommended?

 

[aldenf]

Can you use the Triton Mini coils in the Kabuki?

Sure can. Whether you like them or not is a different story. =)

 

[schismz]

Wow. 6mg is their highest strength? Oh dear.

The intended destination is high-wattage devices where you go through 30ml every 15 minutes or so

 

[Knifemaker]

This is an interesting topic and one I've given a lot of thought to.

First, I don't consider coil life as a yes/no thing. There's that wonderful hit and flavor you get on a new coil. That gradually deteriorates into somethng that's acceptable and very good but not the great performance with the first tank or so. I get a tank or two on the first stage and about a week on the second until I get unacceptable taste or sometimes the dreaded gurgles.

Second, I vape naturally extracted tobaccos almost exclusively so I'm resigned to fairly short coil life. And third I have quite a few Kabukis in use right now and though the flavor is uniformly wonderful, different tanks act in various manners.

At one time I consistently had the problem of the coils staying in the chimney when the tank was filled. I did indeed try to just look at this as a plus with the additional volume of juice. But I absolutely could not get past the reassembly. For some reason, it just felt much more vague and I couldn't tell positively that the coil head was properly seated in the base. Though they always screwed back together, the feeling that I was cross threading just made me grit my teeth.

After using the technique that Knife mentions (tightening the coil as much as possible), I don't have much of a problem any longer. But the interesting thing is that at this point it only happens on one of the Kabukis and it happens every time. I can't see any difference with the problem tank and it's just not enough of a problem for me to bother Zen.

I guess my biggest problem right now is that I'm getting a lot more bad coils than ever before. LIke many others here, I stocked up during the Black Friday sales from reputable sellers with genuine goods. But in the last three boxes, I've had at least one coil that just wasn't right. Some started giving burned taste after having been fine the day before (and without any changes in juice or power). Others spit back and gurgled within a few hits and none of the changes I'd make would make any difference. And I've had two that were flamethrowers - putting out incredibly hot vapes no matter what the setting. All were 1.8 ohms and were read correctly by the mod.

And finally, I've used the coils with break in and without. I honestly can't tell a difference as long as I'm sure that the coil is primed.

Just one user's opinion on all of this and I'm sure other have found things differently.

Edit: I forgot to mention that I've tried 2 or 3 HH357 coils and can't get them to work. When setting at the relatively low power level I get weak taste. Bumping the power slightly gets a burnt taste. I really wish I could be able to use these.

I would definitely give HOH a call, and tell them that "Only ONE" tank is doing this out of 5 that you have purchased from them. Cutters can wear, and can result in rough threading. A simple chasing of the threads and a mild polish will take care of this. Something that Zen will be more than happy to do.

If they cannot make it right, a replacement will be sent pronto! Zen is VERY customer oriented!!! A Company that actually cares. Now how rare is that?
Knife

 

[Knifemaker]

Every thing I have read leads me to think the Triton Mini just isn't' very good. Including what Zen himself has found. However, taste is as we all know is subjective.

On this note, and seeing how I love a direct lung hit, I ordered a pack with my monthly order of norman Nautilus coils. I went with the "Clapton" version. Well, BAM!!! The taste is rich and full. Much more so that the Nauti coil for me. But as usual, YMMV here.

With all this talk about coils not lasting, It got me to wondering just where my experience fit in with them. I don't Know how the Claptons will fare, but I go thru Nauti's in about 4-5 days on average. Now this sounds not so good. And yes, it gets kinda expensive. But I started noticing what folks here say they are going thru in regards to the amount of Liquid they consume. Seems I go thru more than most.

I go thru 5-6 tanks a day. Sometimes more. So I'm looking at a min. of 12 ml a day, x4=48 ml on a coil, or 5x at 60 ml on a coil. Which in these terms, seems like I'm getting more life out of a coil than most.

I am going to try re-building a few. (Again)! The first attempts were, well, desastrious to say the least. LOL

I really enjoy rebuilding, but these little premade coils are a challenge for me. But I will not be defeated! No I won't.

I am anxious to see how the Tritons last with the greater air flow. Fingers Crossed here.

Knife

 

[Knifemaker]

Can you use the Triton Mini coils in the Kabuki?

Yes sir you can! The fit the P3 connection Kabuki without issue. If used in the 510 base, you will have to remove the contact pin in the bottom of the coil and replace it with the Nauti pin. However, it must be kept in mind, that even though the Triton Mini has a larger pass thru hole thru the coil, the base pin is also larger. Giving more air flow. The Nauti pin used in the Triton Mini may very well defeat the purposes, and explain many people not liking it, as it would choke off the airflow quite a bit. .

Knife

 

[Knifemaker]

On the wicking hole size issue, I have found that the fakes have smaller air holes. One way to tell if the coil is Gen or not, is the fake coils air holes have tiny outward burrs on the edges of the air holes. Also, the knurling on the top of the coil, (finger notching) is not as deep, sharp, or well defined. And they LOVE to stick in chimneys. Grrrrr!!!

Knife

 

[aldenf]

Yes sir you can! The fit the P3 connection Kabuki without issue. If used in the 510 base, you will have to remove the contact pin in the bottom of the coil and replace it with the Nauti pin. However, it must be kept in mind, that even though the Triton Mink has a larger pass thru hole thru the coil, the base pin is also larger. Giving more air flow. The Nauti pin used in the Triton Mini may very well defeat the purposes, and explain many people not liking it, as it would choke off the airflow quite a bit. .

Knife

Maybe drilling out the Nauti pin is a solution or a needle file.

 

[Knifemaker]

Maybe drilling out the Nauti pin is a solution or a needle file.

Very well may be an answer!

Knife