Anybody Using A Kabuki?

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@Zen~ :
Will the P3 -> 510 adapter work for other P3 tanks, or was it expressly designed for the P3 Kabuki?

I'm guessing it will work for other tanks, but I could understand if it was designed in such a way that it would only work with the Kabuki.

In light of Zen's busy schedule, if anyone else has experience with this, the knowledge would be much appreciated.
Mine works with a P3 nautilus, and K4. but other people have had issues with them.
I'm the lucky one as @AstroTurf would say.
 

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@Zen~ :
Will the P3 -> 510 adapter work for other P3 tanks, or was it expressly designed for the P3 Kabuki?

I'm guessing it will work for other tanks, but I could understand if it was designed in such a way that it would only work with the Kabuki.

In light of Zen's busy schedule, if anyone else has experience with this, the knowledge would be much appreciated.
Interested to know as well.

I have 4 P3 Kabukis, ordered one of the P3 to 510 adapters and will be (hopefully) running Kabukis on both P3 and 510 topped mods (all Provaris). Hope all will perform flawlessly.
 

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@Zen~ :
Will the P3 -> 510 adapter work for other P3 tanks, or was it expressly designed for the P3 Kabuki?

I'm guessing it will work for other tanks, but I could understand if it was designed in such a way that it would only work with the Kabuki.

In light of Zen's busy schedule, if anyone else has experience with this, the knowledge would be much appreciated.
Sure, it should work, just not with ProVape's beauty ring on the V2.
 

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Sure, it should work, just not with ProVape's beauty ring on the V2.
Look close,:) Provari beauty ring.
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Sure, it should work, just not with ProVape's beauty ring on the V2.
Look close,:) Provari beauty ring.
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I had a lot of trouble with some tanks not making a connection when I used my Provape brand beauty ring...
Tatroe always served its purpose nicely.
The only tank I could get to make a solid connection to the v2.5, with Provape beauty ring, was the original Nautilus.
 

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I had a lot of trouble with some tanks not making a connection when I used my Provape brand beauty ring...
Tatroe always served its purpose nicely.
The only tank I could get to make a solid connection to the v2.5, with Provape beauty ring, was the original Nautilus.
Thanks for helping to not look like a vaping hypochondriac.
 

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I had a lot of trouble with some tanks not making a connection when I used my Provape brand beauty ring...
Tatroe always served its purpose nicely.
The only tank I could get to make a solid connection to the v2.5, with Provape beauty ring, was the original Nautilus.

I guess I better
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so far so good on all of my various tanks including the kabukis working on my v2.5's with the tank beauty ring
 

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I just checked back with the thread (I don't spend a lot of time over here on the forum)... Thought I should lay low, but I'll respond to this... just for fun. My comments in red.

Kinda backasswards to blame HOH for lousy service from electrostix!

The first problem with the threading is the coils themselves. I have had to take quite a few to my shop and polish the threads. Then they work flawlessly. This is the problem 99.9% of the time. And No, the Kabuki's are not Crap. Far from it.

Agreed that the coils have sketchy threads at times (and that it's not HOHs fault). I have started trying them out on the chimney first to make sure they don't get stuck and get left in the chimney when I unscrew the base to refill. Kinda hard to get out without removing the glass and making a mess (or damaging the coils). But the chimney threads, at least on mine are not cut very well either, I have to be extremely careful not to cross thread when replacing the base. This applies to the P3 version also. My Z2 (and the Aspire tanks) are much better in that regard.

The second problem, is that you're screwing the coils into the chimney and then the base onto the coil base. WRONG. This can prevent a positive connection, and cover the holes even more. It can also cause the base to be started crooked, which can crack the tank glass, Hello!!! And if done often enough, crack the Delrin ring the contact set screw is threaded into. This is exactly WHY there are detailed instruction on HOH's site as to how to set the Kabuki up. Electrostix should have directed you to the HOH site for instructions, or had it on their site. I know that at one time, the vid was there. Did you ignore it? And if so, whose fault is that? I'm sure you didn't learn that when studying to become an Engineer. Just cram thing together and hope for a good outcome. Very encouraging in the Nuclear business!

I'm not sure why you would think I install the coils in reverse (chimney, then base) as that simply makes no sense if you want a good connection. As for the glass, I broke the first one unscrewing the base for a refill, maybe it was cross-threaded - it was before knew to check the coil threads before using one. I don't know anything about a set up video, didn't see one then, can't find one now... If someone will tell me where it is, I'll watch it, although it seems like a pretty simple tank. Maybe some written instructions would have helped with the delicate 510 insulator plastic (that eventually split and fell out on one of mine).

The third problem is the holes being covered. Well, they are not. It may appear so looking from the side, but there is plenty of room between the inner dia. of the chimney base, and the OD dia of the coil for liquid to enter, at the same pressure no matter the level of the tank until empty. It's part of the design, and a good one!

OK, fair enough. Looks kind of strange, though. The Z2 and P3 ones clearly sit lower with the holes at least partially visible.

But Four and Five, is blaming HOH for a failure on Electrostix part, and your lack of knowing the difference, and finally, coming here, complaining, and calling us fanboys for your total lack of understand of both how the tank works, and failures to contact HOH, who gave you a lifetime warranty on the Kabuk in the first place! Grrrrrrr!!!

Not really sure what to say on this one, but I have seen a lot of denial when Zen's products have issues. Gotta love "the insurance company made us build it that way" replies when the battery rattle issue was discussed on the Z2 a while back... Really guys $!$!.. and I mean REALLY ??!!??!! I better start pulling springs from my flashlights before the insurance company finds out about the hazard...

I'm pretty sure I understand how this and other tanks work, BTW. I'm not sure how you jumped to my "total lack of understanding" observation. I guess if I'm having problems, I'm just stupid?

I contacted Electronicstix because that's where I bought it, plain and simple. As far as I knew, they were the only dealer that carried the 510 version (I got my P3 from Provape and my Z2 from JJVapes, neither of them had a 510 version). I bought 2 of the 510s because I planned to slow down on coil making and just use the Nautilus BVC coils, that indeed work pretty well and are convenient (and I wanted a more premium product than the Aspire tanks). Ultimately I asked for a replacement insulator from Electronicstix and gave up after eight emails back and forth. I never had a single issue with the "cheap" Aspire tanks, still going strong today...


Sometimes it pays to think about what you are doing, rather than going off halfcocked and blaming every one you can for your complicity in a problem. When you encounter a problem, one should first look to oneself before looking to others. This encompassed both common sense, as well as common decency.
A man with neither is just another pita.

I was indeed a little bent out of shape, I was just surprised at all of the positive comments when I decided to hunt for more information and a potential source for the insulator. So, yes, PITA seems fair - a couple of beers might have figured into it as well. I guess regular forum members do like their HOH's, finicky as they are sometimes.

BTW, do you actually have an original 510 tank? It's hard to believe others didn't have similar experiences, especially with the 510 insulator/air hole and grub screws.

I did notice that the original 510 version doesn't seem to exist any more, only the P3/510 adapter version. Hopefully that will keep anyone else from having many of my issues - as the coil will sit lower and the 510 is totally different. Be careful with those glass tanks, though... :)


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I mentioned in this thread a while back that Aspire was going to release an update of the Nautilus tank. They have now posted some pictures and information.

No mention is made regarding the coil compatibility, but at a cursory glance they don't appear to fit into the current Nautilus (and thus Kabuki)

The coil design is a bit interesting, but I haven't decided if there's any advantage to the changes other than being able to say "it's all new!" They have lengthened the vapor path, and if I understand Zen correctly he was trying to do the opposite when he designed the Kabuki.

Also, all the air is being drawn through the top instead of the bottom. I've seen a lot of people comment that top flow gives inferior flavor compared to bottom flow.

Aspire - Aspire Nautilus X
 

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I mentioned in this thread a while back that Aspire was going to release an update of the Nautilus tank. They have now posted some pictures and information.

No mention is made regarding the coil compatibility, but at a cursory glance they don't appear to fit into the current Nautilus (and thus Kabuki)

The coil design is a bit interesting, but I haven't decided if there's any advantage to the changes other than being able to say "it's all new!" They have lengthened the vapor path, and if I understand Zen correctly he was trying to do the opposite when he designed the Kabuki.

Also, all the air is being drawn through the top instead of the bottom. I've seen a lot of people comment that top flow gives inferior flavor compared to bottom flow.

Aspire - Aspire Nautilus X
Looks interesting, but I'll pass. RBA's and RDA's are where it's at.
 

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I ordered one to play with, can always grab another if it works out.
Gonna need Duane-Feedback on that item.

The fact that it comes from China was enough to stop me from initially purchasing it...but if it works out well, I'll pull the trigger.
 
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