Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[AstroTurf]

Really? Sorry you feel that way. I'm not an emotive guy. I'm an analyst so perhaps I don't see it. Thanks for the details on the manufacturing. I a,so wasn't aware of the lifetime warranty on the top and bottom caps.



I'm not complaining about shipping. I'm discussing the fact that a 50-% addition doesn't make sense to me as a value point of view I don't expect you to pay shipping. If I end up ordering $60 worth of stuff than a 10% add on is just fine. For. $12 order for a cost of ordering it's not a good proposition. Which is why I followed by asking if these parts would be made available to any other vendors selling your product. Who also sell other things where people can include them with orders for juice coils etc. or maybe you could sell coils for your tank. You may have them there and I missed them that could help justify the lowest shipping. Alternately very little snail mail gets lost. A couple of o rings and a screw could easily be sent with a stamped envelope no? Maybe a disclaimer the customer takes the loss if it doesn't arrive. Point is I was discussing. Not complaining.



thanks for answering , however tersely, but it wasn't a complaint it was a question. I didn't see the dimensions. Maybe I didn't click deep enough ? You can tell vendors you need them to offer spare tanks and o ring kits for sale while they offer your atomizer can't you? No not at gunpoint. Given mbv has their own version I'm surprised they didn't get a spares kit in blue made up from you.



yes for sure it's great you take it to answer thing like that. I appreciate it! Oh heads up your Facebook messages must not be getting to you. I sent one a few days ago and it hasn't been addressed. There's no need now, I just figured you'd want to know.

boy can I sympathize with margins - mine are incredibly thin. I have extremely limited funds as I'm readying for brain and double spine surgery while competing with medical raping and job abstinence. I chose to buy your tank my wallet could have gone for a cheaper alternative with all the spares - i chose yours. So I don't feel opining on a few minor things is a huge sin especially when reiterating that overall I'm excited to receive.

While your presence is obviously extremely appreciated here it's a user forum. Should, a discussion thread on an independent forum tip toe about because the creator comes to the thread? I guess I could have waited to discuss any of it and opened a review thread but I at the time had no idea how present you were here and I expressed some opinions, worded badly but not malicious or with any intent to derail your company or or product sales. I even said. I'm buying one anyway because the flavor is meant to be so good. And when. I get it and I agree that it's the cat pajamas I'll review it as just that. And if I see issues I'll state that too. Because it's a forum and a read for sharing honest feelings about a product I thought! one that requires more tact than I initially offered. won't apologize for concerns or observations. But it should have been addressed much better by me and again I am truly sorry for that and if you felt slighted by the way it was approached.
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I guess my take away here is that you provide lifetime warranty on the top cap drip tip and bottom section. And that you're mad. What does the. Warranty cover ? I'd assume most will be dropped at some point which would presumably void the warranty? This is something of which I was unaware and I'm very interested to learn what would be covered.



I can fully sympathize with what it's like being s small business owner. And I do understand wetting margins and keeping to them.

So may I offer a suggestion

Will you carry Bvc coils at a competitive price $9/5 ?
Temp control ones for $18 if vapor shark
Latest allows value conscious consumers to buy a couple of small parts a tank or two and spares kit load up on 2-4 packs of coils and then shipping is not even worth consideration from a percentage standing.

I understand your point of view. I stated in my other thread we both approach it from different angles you from a manufacturer and me from a consumer. You feel consumers don't get how hard it is for you. Maybe you don't get how hard it is for many of us. Certainly I have a ton of financial issues right now. But I don't want to return to smoking. I need a feat tank with great flavor and disposable coils. Preferably that has longevity. after the brain part of the surgery I can't build. Maybe after the second spinal surgery I'll be able to again. Those are real concerns. For me....the thing is. I don't expect you to give a .... about me you're making a product to make money. Just don't be upset when a consumer is also thinking of them self when they say I can't believe xyz abc. They're thinking of them self in that situation just as you're thinking of yourself in your post and position. I don't expect you to send me at cost parts because my finances are very low die to crazy circumstances. You can expect people not to be surprised when they don't find what have become standards because you can't bottom line it the way you need to with them. Do out see my point

I'm glad you do USA creation. I'm looking forward to seeing what many have said is a fine piece of craftsmanship. I can't wait to see how well the nautilus coils can really perform in an awesome tank. I accept the cost of this tank is more like $105 -$115 over time as at least one glass will break. Needing at least one spare and likely more. Maybe another suggestion is to sell vape bands to,your customers to save their tanks. Or find an o ring that isn't so tight(people break them taking it off(this isn't first hand just what I've been reading) so people can have a choice of how tight the tank fits.

Anyway in the end I'm a consumer. Manufacturers don't care about consumers by and large, they want money from them. . It's not a surprise that most consumers don't care about manufacturers, they want their products as cheap as possible. It would be great if we can bridge that gap. It's started with your explanations and I hear you. Understood sir on where you're coming from. I hope you can open up to consumers who have become used to certain things. And find discourse to explain it without allowing it to anger you.

I'm greatly looking toward using your product. I'm sorry you felt my apology was not good enough so I'll close by saying. The responses in this post have zero emotion behind them. They are pragmatic reason response and questions for your post designed for conversation about provided information. Inflammation or belittling is not what I'm after, ever. While I may misstep with my verbiage occasionally I hope you can come to believe my intent is typically that of well wishes or information gathering. I'm certainly not trying to troll a thread for my latest high end manufacturer I bought ! Not piss of the creator of said mod or community of users.

So for a final formal. Please do accept my sincerest of apology for the previously bad apology. And my best wishes for your continued success.

In future when I present opinions in a product thread I'll treat every one like the manufacturer is sitting err and ensure it can be seen as nothing but a cost analysis and review of the vape experience

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[Moxienator]

Where are you ordering them from and does that supplier also carry coils; o ring kit; metal tank? And are they an online vendor? Gotta maximize that shipping! That's my point! That's good news on the tank durability thanks for sharing. I have a vape band of whatever they're Called but it's from mews juice and I bought one bottle of that stuff and am not about to advertise something on my edit setup that I don't get paid for. So I need no print vape bands. Or maybe find a tank saver solution at Michaels. N

HoH has everything but the coils, including the metal tank. I got one of those after I broke my first tank, but hate not being able to see my juice level. I ended up ordering a few different colors from spectrum tanks, I think their clear Pyrex is like $7. Very durable glass. Everyone here seems to have the same strategy to buying coils - routinely check multiple vendors for lowest price and sales. My freedom smokes is usually pretty cheap for example. I think Electronic stix has everything but the orings and afc screw, but honestly I wouldn't even bother worrying about those. Keep them lubed and they should be fine for quite a while. and if you're really paranoid, like I am, throw some Teflon tape on the afc screw to keep it tight. IMHO buy a couple packs of coils, 2 extra tanks ( or one SS) and go from there.

Still not digging the Vaporwerx. Initial impression hasn't changed. Weak TH, muted flavor. Slow wicking. Fail.


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[h00ligan]

HoH has everything but the coils, including the metal tank. I got one of those after I broke my first tank, but hate not being able to see my juice level. I ended up ordering a few different colors from spectrum tanks, I think their clear Pyrex is like $7. Very durable glass. Everyone here seems to have the same strategy to buying coils - routinely check multiple vendors for lowest price and sales. My freedom smokes is usually pretty cheap for example. I think Electronic stix has everything but the orings and afc screw, but honestly I wouldn't even bother worrying about those. Keep them lubed and they should be fine for quite a while. and if you're really paranoid, like I am, throw some Teflon tape on the afc screw to keep it tight. IMHO buy a couple packs of coils, 2 extra tanks ( or one SS) and go from there.

Still not digging the Vaporwerx. Initial impression hasn't changed. Weak TH, muted flavor. Slow wicking. Fail.


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Great. Thanks for your help. Have you tried the vapor shark coils? And she's spectrum tanks offer metal choices also or is that a HoH only? I'm not stressed about getting the soared kit right away. Just when an order permits it. Metal works great if you're using temp control. I am just in the habit of filling before I go out it ifbusing metal.

I found sweet vapes $9 price reasonable but I don't know if they sometimes drop much lower like $1/coil. I haven't bought this coil in ages.

I'll check electronicstix. I have two packs of bvc and one temp so in set for a bit providing indict get clumsy. I have a couple tanks to sell too freeing up funds to expand on this one.

 

[AstroTurf]

To the other above post with face palm. Thanks for your contribution.

You're Welcome...

Just callin it like I see it!!!

Jim

 

[h00ligan]

You're Welcome...

Just callin it like I see it!!!

Jim

Didn't really add much but it brought you satisfaction I guess so rock on

Hey maybe you can offer an opinion. Which coils do you find the best. Either temp control or standard?

 

[drugarth]

I use both coils in the Kabuki (I have one loaded with 1.8ohm coil and one loaded with a vaporshark Ni200 coil) and honestly I find not that much difference between them....
I get my regular coils from fasttech (takes a while, but cheap) and the vaporsharks from a local shop....
I get my spare parts (they stock coils, glass and metal tanks and the spare kits unfortunalty not the colored o-rings (yet)) from creme de vape, but I am from europe, so it's a shop based in europe (UK), so I think you are better off ordering directly from hoh seeing you're from the states.(Doh! I see now that this was probably not that usefull to you, LOL )

 

[Noodles11]

I am in Western Australia LOL and the online vendor is 4000km away on the other side of the country And yeah, I get coils, cotton, wire, juice and anything else I can think of. They do normally have all the spares and the owner did mention to me about the SS tank, but I like glass, and if one breaks then so be it. I do reckon a vape band would be great insurance, but I paid good money for a slick outfit so don't want to mess with the aesthetics that appeal to me A good old fashioned rubber band would do the same job if one was in a pinch or in an environment where constant knocks are likely to happen.

Touch wood again

Hi YONJURO,

Im from WA myself and have been following this and the Radius Thread for the last two weeks and got a bad case of FOMO reading about the Kabuki and radius so bit the bullet and ordered Black Radius & 2 x S/S Kabukis and 1 x Stealth Kabuki to go with my P3 Stealth Titanium I ordered as well....

Had Pro Varis for 4 yrs and tried other ....e briefly and honestly no comparison.
Been using Beyond Vape Silo tanks and BVC coils for near on two years but find I go thru 4 Tanks a year the air flow ring wears out the threading wears out etc...

Found heaps of good info here at ECF and got spares from HOH and some tanks from IBT and Spectrum ..

Living in Aus shipping can be a pain but I usually do 2 big orders a year and usually go overkill on spares but I work on a rig tender boat and tend to abuse my Original 4yr old Pro Vari ,im actually trying to kill it but it refuses to die.

As for the price for a Kabuki well I havnt tried it yet but if it gives the same flavour and performance as a nauty or silo its worth every penny...AND WILL OUTLAST a nauty or silo.

And lets not forget ive yet to find a glass tank that wont break every tank ive had ive managed to break or crack...

Awsome thread and Zen Charge more ill still buy em

Cheers Noodles11

 

[fleur_de_lis-in-FL]

Didn't really add much but it brought you satisfaction I guess so rock on

Hey maybe you can offer an opinion. Which coils do you find the best. Either temp control or standard?

I know Provape has the metal and glass tank, not sure about the o-rings. There weresome links for orings from an oring vendor earlier this week (when talking about the poly tank from stanley).

HTH

 

[h00ligan]

I use both coils in the Kabuki (I have one loaded with 1.8ohm coil and one loaded with a vaporshark Ni200 coil) and honestly I find not that much difference between them....
I get my regular coils from fasttech (takes a while, but cheap) and the vaporsharks from a local shop....
I get my spare parts (they stock coils, glass and metal tanks and the spare kits unfortunalty not the colored o-rings (yet)) from creme de vape, but I am from europe, so it's a shop based in europe (UK), so I think you are better off ordering directly from hoh seeing you're from the states.(Doh! I see now that this was probably not that usefull to you, LOL )

It's useful if the fast tech coils are reliable. I ordered 25 sub tank coils from them and they were falling apart. I have to see what USA pricing is and find better cool pricing for the vapor shark.

Did you ever try any vair coils or only vapor shark? Reviews on vapenw are terrible for vair so I shied away. I have enough that ordering from fasttech is possible if the price is right. The fact the offer free shipping could save a few $ but if that's it I'll likely stick local. My bm charge like 3-4$/coil

Thanks for the input on the flavor differences. I'd imagine the temp coils last a fair bit longer than the others just by nature. Without changing juice profiles I'm thinking two weeks on the temp
Coils and a week for the regular. Are those the times you're seeing?

 

[AstroTurf]

Hey maybe you can offer an opinion.

My opinion...

No matter how unprofitable it may seem...

It is always good to read the thread before asking, Already Answered Questions!

Hope this helps, Jim

 

[h00ligan]

My opinion...

No matter how unprofitable it may seem...

It is always good to read the thread before asking, Already Answered Questions!

Hope this helps, Jim

You were around for the discussion of my pending brain and two spine surgeries which contradicts me reading and retaining anything of that volume, or the next thing you would be blasting me for is asking multiple questions over and over with a slew of typos. I do however attempt to recall as much as possible. I have read this entire thread fwiw.

. Anyway. I think there's a block list here somewhere. You should block me so I don't annoy you and you can enjoy your day better. Sorry to upset you bud. Have w great day. I'll see if I can find directions to that block list.

I know Provape has the metal and glass tank, not sure about the o-rings. There weresome links for orings from an oring vendor earlier this week (when talking about the poly tank from stanley).

HTH

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Thanks for that. Zen said the dimensions for the prints and tanks were on his storefront. While I didn't see them I'm sure he's not wrong I just need to dig more and ad a 20 pack of all of it from my next overseas order. Thanks for the other link to check.

 

[AstroTurf]

You were around for the discussion of my pending brain and two spine surgeries which contradicts me reading and retaining anything of that volume, or the next thing you would be blasting me for is asking multiple questions over and over with a slew of typos. I do however attempt to recall as much as possible. I have read this entire thread fwiw.

. Anyway. I think there's a block list here somewhere. You should block me so I don't annoy you and you can enjoy your day better. Sorry to upset you bud. Have w great day. I'll see if I can find directions to that block list.

I'd rather not block your posts...

You asked my opinion, and you got it.

Perhaps one more bit of advice though... Pen and Paper!

Jim

 

[h00ligan]

I'd rather not block your posts...

You asked my opinion, and you got it.

Perhaps one more bit of advice though... Pen and Paper!

Jim

I believe you have no concept of the issue if pen and paper can resolve it. But thanks for your kind advice friend. A joy your day and I hope everyone is lovely to you today. I'll end our interaction here as it offers nothing to anyone other than you. Unless you need it to continue feeling good?

 

[AstroTurf]

I believe you have no concept of the issue if pen and paper can resolve it. But thanks for your kind advice friend. A joy your day and I hope everyone is lovely to you today. I'll end our interaction here as it offers nothing to anyone other than you. Unless you need it to continue feeling good?

 

[DPLongo22]

I believe you have no concept of the issue if pen and paper can resolve it. But thanks for your kind advice friend. A joy your day and I hope everyone is lovely to you today. I'll end our interaction here as it offers nothing to anyone other than you. Unless you need it to continue feeling good?

Okay, you two. The Principal's office.

NOW.

 

[Yonjuro]

Hi YONJURO,

Im from WA myself and have been following this and the Radius Thread for the last two weeks and got a bad case of FOMO reading about the Kabuki and radius so bit the bullet and ordered Black Radius & 2 x S/S Kabukis and 1 x Stealth Kabuki to go with my P3 Stealth Titanium I ordered as well....

Had Pro Varis for 4 yrs and tried other ....e briefly and honestly no comparison.
Been using Beyond Vape Silo tanks and BVC coils for near on two years but find I go thru 4 Tanks a year the air flow ring wears out the threading wears out etc...

Found heaps of good info here at ECF and got spares from HOH and some tanks from IBT and Spectrum ..

Living in Aus shipping can be a pain but I usually do 2 big orders a year and usually go overkill on spares but I work on a rig tender boat and tend to abuse my Original 4yr old Pro Vari ,im actually trying to kill it but it refuses to die.

As for the price for a Kabuki well I havnt tried it yet but if it gives the same flavour and performance as a nauty or silo its worth every penny...AND WILL OUTLAST a nauty or silo.

And lets not forget ive yet to find a glass tank that wont break every tank ive had ive managed to break or crack...

Awsome thread and Zen Charge more ill still buy em

Cheers Noodles11

Hey nice to hear from a West Aussie My Radius will be here next week. But loving the P3 and Kabuki - I know you will love it when you try it. Am just finishing a half tank of Nicoticket ACB in my Kayfun V4 and about to pop a fresh coil in my thoroughly cleaned Kabuki and fill her up with some Black Note Cadenza, sit back and watch some American Horror Story Oh happy days

 

[drugarth]

It's useful if the fast tech coils are reliable. I ordered 25 sub tank coils from them and they were falling apart. I have to see what USA pricing is and find better cool pricing for the vapor shark.

Did you ever try any vair coils or only vapor shark?

Thanks for the input on the flavor differences. I'd imagine the temp coils last a fair bit longer than the others just by nature. Without changing juice profiles I'm thinking two weeks on the temp
Coils and a week for the regular. Are those the times you're seeing?

I never had any problem with fasttech coils (both for nauti and subtank coils)...but I do always order "authentic" and those are the same as the ones you buy anywhere else.

I switch my coils every 2 weeks, always, they cost $1,60 each so that's 80 cents a week (but I use 2 Kabuki's and switch between them, so that $1,60 each week)...I don't bother waiting till my flavour goes for that price, this way I am almost always assured I have a good coil in. (I will switch sooner if they fail me, but this has never happened).
So I don't get more time out of my Ni200 coils than out of my regular ones, so can't really comment if they last longer. I just bought this one pack to try them....but will switch back to regulars completely as I don't find my vape improving and they are more expensive.

Never tried the Vair coils, for the same reason as you: because they get very bad press.

 

[stanleybb50]

Hey nice to hear from a West Aussie My Radius will be here next week. But loving the P3 and Kabuki - I know you will love it when you try it. Am just finishing a half tank of Nicoticket ACB in my Kayfun V4 and about to pop a fresh coil in my thoroughly cleaned Kabuki and fill her up with some Black Note Cadenza, sit back and watch some American Horror Story Oh happy days

That's it! I just ordered the "Notebook" from Black Note. All this talk about them is killing me! Would love to have another flavor besides Nicoticket Wakonda in my rotation!

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[Robino1]

Okay, you two. The Principal's office.

NOW.

I concur!!

Enough!

 

[Yonjuro]

That's it! I just ordered the "Notebook" from Black Note. All this talk about them is killing me! Would love to have another flavor besides Nicoticket Wakonda in my rotation!

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Ahhh awesome! I have them all now (a few on order) except for the one with Menthol. Cadenza is probably my favourite! They are quite different and very subtle at first. Maybe start with Prelude and work up in flavour intensity - Prelude, Cadenza, Bravura and Forte. I am waiting on the others. If you got from VV, then it was my email to Steve that recommended them. I've tried quite a few baccie flavours from other vendors and nothing is as good in my opinion, but take a few vapes to work them out and appreciate their fineness - They could easily be my only vape.

Sorry to others for the thread de-rail