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FYI. What it looks like on a LPG makes me wish there was a 1.2 ohm bvc coil

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1 ohm coils can be had.

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1 ohm coils can be had.

Rebuilts on Avid Vaper Website...

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Ah the $10 ones. I've been curious about those. Can they be rewicked? How are they more reusable than any other bvc coil- rinsing cotton and all? Has anyone tried those?

Finally for anyone who may have measured befkre coils good for a week or more assuming limited juice swaps?

I'm chugging juice with this device. I'm through 4 ml since I first started like 90 min's ago :eek:
 

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I bought these and am now questioning their authenticity...

Anyone else get these and have good things to say?

http://sweet-vapes.com/aspire-bvc-coils.html

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Sweet Vapes does MASSIVE volume and they do it really low margins... they are the real deal.

FYI. What it looks like on a LPG makes me wish there was a 1.2 ohm bvc coil

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Be VERY careful using a Kabuki on the Petit Gross... That hybrid connection can dead-short in an instant if you apply too much switch pressure.

1 ohm coils can be had.

Rebuilts on Avid Vaper Website...

Jim

YES... the cisco spec coils are available in 1Ω... it's a finicky thing, but when it's on... it's REALLY on! Airflow is tighter... she's an MTL only coil.


Ah the $10 ones. I've been curious about those. Can they be rewicked? How are they more reusable than any other bvc coil- rinsing cotton and all? Has anyone tried those?

I use the 1Ω on mechs pretty regularly... they have no cotton, just ceramic wick cord like an old-school HH357 510 atty... They last for months... when the performance drops off you rinse them out and dry burn them... shades of 5 years ago. They are a pleasure to use once you understand the limitations.

Limitation 1) It is STRICTLY a mouth to lung atomizer
Limitation 2) they need THIN e-liquid... They work BEST with 70% PG or higher... if you have thicker juice, thin it with 3-5% distilled water. The flavor will be fine.
Limitation 3) There is a slight learning curve and you will be tempted to throw it away. You need to adjust to what it wants... there's no room for wishful thinking, it is what it is, and what it is, is an amazing, old-school vaping experience which means you have to take the bad with the good. Just like the good old days.
 
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Changing the drip too more flavor based one made a huge difference

I picked up a mini ionizer from HoH when I ordered my SS tank. The tighter bore drip tips to me really make it shine! Just wasn't feeling the Gertrude (?) drip tip. I figured, for my first HoH products (a used ZNA30 and Z2 kabuki) I should keep the Zen-ness going and stick an Ionizer on there. Plus, as all these guys and gals know, I dig the Ray gun look (although mine is a derringer compared to Zen's, Lol!).
 

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So, for what it's worth... Wholesale on the Authentic Nautilus coils is $1.75 ea. in bulk of 5,000 pcs. Most dealers buy them from distributors at a cost of $1.90 ea. because they can't handle the volume... So that translates to a dealer cost of $9.50 per 5 pack, plus shipping , as distributors do not offer free shipping because it isn't "really" free. And shipping from China on coils is pretty stiff as well.

So, when you see an online offer for Coils at less than $9.50 per pack they are either fakes, or the dealer is buying them in HUGE volume, even higher than the volume I buy them at. And even then I think the next price break is another 11 cents off if you get to 10,000 pcs.

^ This makes sense. On this topic, has anyone been able to locate a vendor that still sells the 50 coil bricks?

There are a couple manufacturers of TC coils, though I don't keep up with that. I find the whole idea of temp limiting to be a foolish pursuit. Flame all you like. I won't be defending that position. It's my opinion and it won't be changing any time soon.

Mech lover here. My ZNA is my only regulated device, and although I love the form factor, I'm still not truly sold on regulated devices in general. It is still a late night/early morning vape, but my Peko and my Epipe reign during the day. No flame from me!

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Be VERY careful using a Kabuki on the Petit Gross... That hybrid connection can dead-short in an instant if you apply too much switch pressure.

YES... the cisco spec coils are available in 1Ω... it's a finicky thing, but when it's on... it's REALLY on! Airflow is tighter... she's an MTL only coil. ...

Limitation 1) It is STRICTLY a mouth to lung atomizer
Limitation 2) they need THIN e-liquid... They work BEST with 70% VG or higher... if you have thicker juice, thin it with 3-5% distilled water. The flavor will be fine.
Limitation 3) There is a slight learning curve and you will be tempted to throw it away. You need to adjust to what it wants... there's no room for wishful thinking, it is what it is, and what it is, is an amazing, old-school vaping experience which means you have to take the bad with the good. Just like the good old days.

Can you expand upon what the issue is with the lpg. I am using the brass adaotor so I'm assuming you mean the Allen screw is a problem with direct battery contact? Fortunately the battery in using should give me a heat up warning by I've never had any issue with any atomizer ive used on it. If be happy to be educated a bit. I don't see a hybrid adapter as I think of them. I just see a brass coupler. When I think hybrid I think something that engrossed and then adds a button contact point. Not a brass donut effectively.

I picked up a mini ionizer from HoH when I ordered my SS tank. The tighter bore drip tips to me really make it shine! Just wasn't feeling the Gertrude (?) drip tip. I figured, for my first HoH products (a used ZNA30 and Z2 kabuki) I should keep the Zen-ness going and stick an Ionizer on there. Plus, as all these guys and gals know, I dig the Ray gun look (although mine is a derringer compared to Zen's, Lol!).

Pictures ?! Ray guns are gangster.
 

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Do you have any plans on releasing a "long kit" to increase tank capacity? Or does one exist that I missed oh your site? Or polycarbonate tanks?

To save the search (I also understand the memory issues) - Zen has stated that tank size, airflow, and coil are all parts to the flavor puzzle, and he found that by adding to the tank size (even a little) it lowered the flavor. What you get is the best combo of flavor he could produce with the given coil. Add more airflow, lose flavor. And more MLs to the tank, lose more flavor.

These are my words based on what I read, so if I stated any of it wrong, I am sorry - my memory issues come from all the meds that I take.
 

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Ok that js for sharing. I can believe that given the chimney gets longer. Possibly collection chamber gets longer.

This setup devours juice. Must be axlot hanging out in the coil.

Could be the chain vaping. Which at 90vg it's keeping up non stop at 16 watts. That's impressive.
 

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So I missed t. What's the trick to not getting the coil to unscrew into the chimney then requiring pliers to extricate it ?

By the way straight from the factory I didn't find the o rings overly right at all. Sub tank mini were much tighter.

Also kayfun 4 glass(I think that's the tank I found) is 6 mm taller but otherwise the same width diameter depth. Don't think there'd be a downside to having more of the coil wick holes exposed but I'm not sure. Zen stated reduced flavor with a longer tank. Il probably test it out anyway just to see. If the impact is minor it may be a solution to get another ml or so in before a longer time out.

At 1.6 I can't see using this o a mech. At least for me it wouldn't give enough pop. I may try one of those 1.0 coils and I appreciate the explanation. I just need to see exactly what it is I have to do to make it work well.
 

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Can you expand upon what the issue is with the lpg. I am using the brass adaotor so I'm assuming you mean the Allen screw is a problem with direct battery contact? Fortunately the battery in using should give me a heat up warning by I've never had any issue with any atomizer ive used on it. If be happy to be educated a bit. I don't see a hybrid adapter as I think of them. I just see a brass coupler. When I think hybrid I think something that engrossed and then adds a button contact point. Not a brass donut effectively.

The brass donut has the 510 connection hanging there, and MANY 510 connectors have pins that can move "in" slightly to the point where the battery can make direct contact with the ground section of the atomizer "tenon"... this is a dead short... Needless to say dead shorts are bad, and the vast majority of the mechanical mods that have exploded in the past year utilize this type of connection, and is the cause of the catastrophic failure. For what it's worth, I don't recommend using a direct battery to 510 pin connection... ever... there should be an insulator and interstitial pin. I know why they make things with these donuts... because less series resistance makes for less loss in the mod. Which is fine, as long as one of the losses we're preventing is the loss of a hand.

I'd like to ask that you not use your Kabuki or any other atomizer with a pin that can be depressed in past the 510 tenon with a donut hybrid adapter, or any mod that makes a direct connection from the battery to the 510 pin. It's flirting with disaster, as It can result in a dangerous condition.
 

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16.5 watts on an I stick 30 is amazing. My adv tastes as good as it does in the GEM. Vapor characteristics are a bit different but the taste is almost the same. And that tank makes things taste different(and better) than anything is tried up until now

Before you get too excited, I would really stress that you try a ProVape PV. New, used, the new Radius, or P3, or Classic, or older new, or even their blems www.provape.com As we all (ProVape users) agree, a vape on a ProVape is even better than on your favorite rig. If you like the Kabuki, it's even nicer using some form of a ProVape PV.

With hand issues (mine are bad , nerves, OA, etc) the Radius is sweet to hold, warm to the touch, and the fire button is so big and soft to press.
 

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How's pocket firing? I'm not sure I need any more mods. I need to see how the temp coils are too. They should improve flavor by 20% or so

Yah I have to be honest with you. I appreciate the looking out but I wouldn't spend the money for those features. I'd buy an m class yihi or Dna 200 for that kind of money.

What is it that's so great about the provari that people are willing to spend so much on what is effectively old technology? The power output realities are that they're equaled by many other manufacturers. Is jt just that it's a brand people like?
 
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So I missed t. What's the trick to not getting the coil to unscrew into the chimney then requiring pliers to extricate it ?

Make sure it's threaded snugly into the base, and don't overtighten the top when you assemble it.

Kayfun 4 glass(I think that's the tank I found) is 6 mm taller but otherwise the same width diameter depth. Don't think there'd be a downside to having more of the coil wick holes exposed but I'm not sure. Zen stated reduced flavor with a longer tank. Il probably test it out anyway just to see. If the impact is minor it may be a solution to get another ml or so in before a longer time out.

The taller glass will DRAMATICALLY slow down the juice uptake to the point where the tank will not function as designed.

If you look inside the chimney, you'll notice an un-threaded section... That is to prevent you from attempting to put taller glass on it. I knew that people would try.

I need to see how the temp coils are too. They should improve flavor by 20% or so

I seriously doubt that.
 

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So I missed t. What's the trick to not getting the coil to unscrew into the chimney then requiring pliers to extricate it ?

Lol. Zen knows! I'd swear its in here somewhere...

A lot of us have had this issue. There is a slim chance that a tool will be manufactured to bring all coils "in spec". Until that comes, try using a hard bristled tooth brush on each coil's upper threads before you install it. This may help to "chase" the threading and clean out any excess plating and debris left from the manufacturing process.
 

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Make sure it's threaded snugly into the base, and don't overtighten the top when you assemble it.



The taller glass will DRAMATICALLY slow down the juice uptake to the point where the tank will not function as designed.

If you look inside the chimney, you'll notice an un-threaded section... That is to prevent you from attempting to put taller glass on it. I knew that people would try.



I seriously doubt that.
Here's why I think the temp
Coils will improve the flavor by a fair bit. I'm running on the limit now. When I get the temp coils in I will Pass that limit without bribing any cotton. No combustion or weirdy little cotton wafts going in. I understand you don't buy temp control. I believe when it's set up flavor differences are night and day. I'd love to blind taste test you one day! I can push more power generating more flavor and vapor without risking combusting cotton. Hence the rattlesnake sound.

Thanks for he info on the glass - ok I won't bother. It's marginally higher to the point it fits and screws in but if you daunt will screw it all up I won't bother. I was really just curious.
 

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Could be the chain vaping. Which at 90vg it's keeping up non stop at 16 watts. That's impressive.

Yeah, that's about 4 watts higher than you need to be for best flavor on pretty much any juice we have tested... humor me... take it down a couple watts, your coils will last longer, you'll use less juice, and the more subtle flavor notes will present themselves... At that wattage you're scorching your eLiquid.
 

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Yeah, that's about 4 watts higher than you need to be for best flavor on pretty much any juice we have tested... humor me... take it down a couple watts, your coils will last longer, you'll use less juice, and the more subtle flavor notes will present themselves... At that wattage you're scorching your eLiquid.
I'll give it a try. Fwiw I don't feel in socket chin the liquid though. The taste can be reoocated on a temp control device. The wattage for sure changes the way this juice tastes by it's a juice hat demands high watts. I'll try this next tank your way though. Thanks for he advise. I'll also let you know what's what when the vapor shark nickel coils arrive. I doubt the efficacy compared to home crown nickel builds but we shall remain hopeful until proven otherwise.
 

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Here's why I think the temp
Coils will improve the flavor by a fair bit. I'm running on the limit now. When I get the temp coils in I will Pass that limit without bribing any cotton. No combustion or weirdy little cotton wafts going in. I understand you don't buy temp control. I believe when it's set up flavor differences are night and day. I'd love to blind taste test you one day! I can push more power generating more flavor and vapor without risking combusting cotton. Hence the rattlesnake sound.

Thanks for he info on the glass - ok I won't bother. It's marginally higher to the point it fits and screws in but if you daunt will screw it all up I won't bother. I was really just curious.

Good PVs do not make a rattlesnake sound. That's a sign of a poor quality regulator.

AND as far as blind testing... you're on... that tank was designed using Double Blind testing... with a LOT of test subjects. There isn't any "stick in your thumb, pull out a plum" engineering in this... The design of the tank was started in late August of 2014, and hit dealer shelves in May of 2015... From august until mid February we had so many double blind and ABX tests and thousands of man hours compiling data before the design was finalized. It was tested on over 250 different mods... and the need for temp limiting is obviated if you use the device in the optimum range of the coil.
 

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How's pocket firing? I'm not sure I need any more mods. I need to see how the temp coils are too. They should improve flavor by 20% or so

No. It won't. The only significant difference is a constant temp throughout the drag. If you want a significant improvement in flavor get a Cisco spec coil.
 
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