Anyone (else) experimented with inhale vs. only mouth/nose to compare nic hit?

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OK, so before anyone flames me for starting "yet another of the countless threads about inhaling vs. not inhaling" let me say up front that I've done a lot of reading and digesting of dozens of existing threads on the subject (and boy are a lot of them loooooong), and have started my own non-scientific (as in non-laboratory, etc.) experiments to get a personal feel for the answer to the question of whether one gets more, or as much, or less absorbed nicotine when inhaling vs only mouth and nose, or inhaling plus mouth and nose, etc. and am interested to hear if anyone else has done similar tests and has any personal impressions to offer, while I am conducting my own.

My background is 20+ years of smoking pipes, and to a lesser extent cigars, but seldom cigarettes, and most of the time not inhaling (only when I wanted a quick nic hit, at the start of a smoking session, but rarely as I tended to smoke my pipes regularly throughout the day).

When starting e-cigs, I assumed that one had to inhale to get the nicotine. I understand now that that is incorrect, and one likely absorbs more though the mouth and nose, but I've also noted that (for me) a shallow inhale followed by slow exhale though the nose improves the flavor, and stealth vaping requires full inhale and holding, so that little to no vapor is exhaled.

I'm wondering if I am "wasting" liquid/nic proportionate to how much I inhale, since much of the vapor is clearly condensing (or otherwise remaining) somewhere internally and not exiting through e.g. the nose, and if it's remaining somewhere that doesn't allow absorption as well as the mouth and nose, how much am I missing out on the absorption potential of each "hit"?

E.g. if I know I am going to be stealth vaping, with full inhale and holding, should I then vape a liquid with higher nic content than when vaping like I smoked my pipe with no or little inhalation?

I have seen this question "talked around and hinted at" in numerous threads, but not given any direct focus (if it has been previously discussed, I've missed such discussions, so anyone feel free to provide any links).

Anyone have any experienced comments regarding such questions?

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Oh, and a note to the moderators: This is a great forum and an outstanding resource, and I am happy to be a new member; however, as a mature adult and a veteran internet user having been an active member of many forums for decades, i.e. since pre-web USENET news, etc., I find the "you must post 5 times in the newby forum before you can interact in other forum threads" to be really insulting, even though I know your reasons. It is a bad policy and you should either remove it, or reduce it to simply a required single introduction post for new members. It equates to telling newcomers at a party that they have stand over there in that corner for the first few hours before they can mingle about elsewhere. Just because one is new to a forum, and even new to vaping, does not mean they are incapable of joining or starting discussions intelligently, and just because someone has posted 5 times in the newby forums does not mean they aren't going to be a nuisance. The 5-post requirement is an unreasonable and excessive policy for discouraging trolls and other undesirables.... gee, I wonder if I'll get an asterisk now :D
 
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Oh, and a note to the moderators: This is a great forum and an outstanding resource, and I am happy to be a new member; however, as a mature adult and a veteran internet user having been an active member of many forums for decades, i.e. since pre-web USENET news, etc., I find the "you must post 5 times in the newby forum before you can interact in other forum threads" to be really insulting, even though I know your reasons. It is a bad policy and you should either remove it, or reduce it to simply a required single introduction post for new members. It equates to telling newcomers at a party that they have stand over there in that corner for the first few hours before they can mingle about elsewhere. Just because one is new to a forum, and even new to vaping, does not mean they are incapable of joining or starting discussions intelligently, and just because someone has posted 5 times in the newby forums does not mean they aren't going to be a nuisance. The 5-post requirement is an unreasonable and excessive policy for discouraging trolls and other undesirables.... gee, I wonder if I'll get an asterisk now :D

If you're so internet savy, you would not find it insulting, but rather appreciate it ;)
 

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If you're so internet savy, you would not find it insulting, but rather appreciate it ;)

On the contrary, as I stated, I understand and appreciate why a "post first" requirement exists. But *5* posts is over-the-top. Show me even half a dozen large online forums that impose such a requirement. I'm all for preventing SPAM and trolls, but I am sure that a single "introduction" post would suffice and work just as effectively, or near enough, as 5 posts without being so onerous to the new members.

But let's just disregard the point. I didn't mean to sabotage my core question with that comment, and in hindsight should have just left it out -- or rather, posted it as a separate thread to count towards my first 5 posts... ;-)
 
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I find the "you must post 5 times in the newby forum before you can interact in other forum threads" to be really insulting.

5 Posts may take you about 2 minutes. Welcome a few new members, reply to a couple of posts, agree with a moderator, it takes no time at all. They are not new threads, simply post. Hey you might make a new friend.

gee, I wonder if I'll get an asterisk now :D

No asterisk for you.


Anyway, what was the question again :D
 

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5 Posts may take you about 2 minutes. Welcome a few new members, reply to a couple of posts, agree with a moderator, it takes no time at all. They are not new threads, simply post. Hey you might make a new friend.



No asterisk for you.


Anyway, what was the question again :D


OK, well my opinion about the min 5 posts remains, as it otherwise just promotes "fluff" posts of low value content (other than friendly greetings, etc.). In any case, this is now my 6th post and I still can't post elsewhere, so I guess posting rights are either done in batch mode at some regularly scheduled time or done manually (doubtful). Maybe I'll get an email telling me I can now post elsewhere?

Looking forward to asking my original question again in a more appropriate forum, especially as I clearly sabotaged this thread with my postscripted comment about the 5 post requirement...
 

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... In any case, this is now my 6th post and I still can't post elsewhere, so I guess posting rights are either done in batch mode at some regularly scheduled time or done manually (doubtful). ...

OK, tried logging out and logging back in, and now I can post elsewhere. Seems to need the login process to activate (or perhaps was just coincidence, anyway, great...)
 

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OK, well my opinion about the min 5 posts remains, as it otherwise just promotes "fluff" posts of low value content (other than friendly greetings, etc.). In any case, this is now my 6th post and I still can't post elsewhere, so I guess posting rights are either done in batch mode at some regularly scheduled time or done manually (doubtful). Maybe I'll get an email telling me I can now post elsewhere?

Just to clarify, I don't think welcoming new members is fluff.

Sometime a new vaper who is probably overwhelmed, having a nic fit and freaking out because they have juice on their floor and they are reaching for the cigarettes because their battery won't charge or their clearo is not giving vapor, needs a welcome.

Sometimes that friendly voice to reach out to might make the difference for them.

Your post is an interesting one and one that merits discussion - just joining a forum and then immediately complaining about the rules maybe wasn't the best way of starting the conversation.

By the way, the forum resets at .20 past the hour.
 
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Just to clarify, I don't think welcoming new members is fluff.

And as I stated, neither do I: "...'fluff' posts of low value content (other than friendly greetings, etc.)..."

And that said, isn't it for the existing members to welcome and new members, and for veteran members to advise new members with urgent questions, rather than new members to be expected to welcome other new members "oh, hey, yeah they told me to stand over here in this corner too...so...uhm....Hi..."

I now fully understand the length of the "What are you vaping now?" thread in the new members forum ;-)
 

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And as I stated, neither do I: "...'fluff' posts of low value content (other than friendly greetings, etc.)..."

And that said, isn't it for the existing members to welcome and new members, and for veteran members to advise new members with urgent questions, rather than new members to be expected to welcome other new members "oh, hey, yeah they told me to stand over here in this corner too...so...uhm....Hi..."

I now fully understand the length of the "What are you vaping now?" thread in the new members forum ;-)

I actually re-read and edited my post about 3 seconds before you posted this.

Just do what you came here to do. I am not the forum police and I have no desire to enter into a discussion with you about the forum rules. If you find the 5 post requirement such a burden, I suggest that a) you may be in the wrong forum and b) you contact a moderator. A list of moderators can be found at the bottom of the main forum.

I know why I come here, I know why I continue to come here

EDIT - i will change it back, i don't want you to think I changed my post in response to yours.
 
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Well I suppose sabotaging your own post by posting a post on a forum and criticizing how the very same forum is run is one way to start a conversation and get your post count up at the same time. :facepalm: People seem to have lost interest in your topic...

Yep, I should have known better and just said welcome to the forum and left it at that.
 

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Well I suppose sabotaging your own post by posting a post on a forum and criticizing how the very same forum is run is one way to start a conversation and get your post count up at the same time. :facepalm: People seem to have lost interest in your topic...

While I agree that I ultimately (unintentionally) sabotaged my own post with that comment, and also that it could be seen as "bad form" to include a criticism in one's first post, the postscripted comment was due to a frustration from wanting to ask a question about a very specific topic and being forced to ask it in what I considered an inappropriate (or at best, suboptimal) forum, and as such not be seen by the very persons I was hoping for input from.

But now that I can post elsewhere, I will ask the primary question again in a more appropriate forum...
 
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