Anyone in the UK interested in a bulk order from centraltrade?

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freddo

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I did a bulk order about a month ago with pakaday and it was very successful. Anyone in the UK interested in doing the same sort of thing? I certainly am. Check their site out

Electronic Cigarette Portal

PM me and i'll send you my msn for further discussion.

Cheers guys

Fred

P.S, no rush, hopefully going to do this sometime in january so you got alot of time to make your mind up!
 
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Tetsab

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Hi Freddo,

Just a few general questions which others might be interested in rather than specifics - perhaps save you getting deluged by PM's all asking the same things:

Are you thinking of a group of individuals getting together for retail type quantities or more like the amounts small traders would want? If small quantities, are you happy about taking on packing and despatching individuals' orders as I imagine it all has to be delivered to one location?

As you've already done one of these trades, what kind of VAT & Import Duty did you get clobbered for when the order arrived? Can't really hope it 'just might' get through and bypass these when there's got to be liability for them which you have to take into account before you can realistically work out how much each sharing buyer would need to cough up over and above the order amount.

Confess I didn't go right through every part of the site, but are any guarantees/warranties given for atomiser/battery failures? If so, how would those work - do failed items have to be collected together and shipped back to China? Did you have to do this with any stuff from your previous delivery and if so could you guess at failure rates?

I really don't intend this to come over all 'officious' but assume you wouldn't like the idea of you getting 20/30 people all giving YOU hassle if they buy a batch of batteries then some of them turn out to be DOA's. We Brits are used to consumer protection these days and might get all shocked if they don't get any!

I don't want to put anyone off and might join in myself - credit crunch or no, like most folk I truly love a bargain.

All very best regards and compliments of the season!
 

freddo

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Hi mate

People could order however much they liked, but i would assume the people interested would be the people wanting smaller quantities otherwise they would just do it themselves.

I ordered about £300 pounds worth of e liquid and i didn't get taxed. The box was about the size of a large shoe box, so it was quite small, probably the reason i didn't get taxed or pay duties. To be honest i am not very experienced with over seas orders, and don;t know much about it.

Ideally, I could email them and ask if they would post the packages separately to the people who want in if i payed in one lump sum for all the packages. It's a possibility, but i doubt they would like that. Worth a try. If not, i may be-able to organize it but not sure if i will have the time tbh. Someone else maybe willing to organize it who has a bit more experience. I'm sure we could all chip in a bit of money for their time and effort.

I don't know about the guarantees, but i could add that in my email.

Hope this helps. Cheers
 

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I'd be interested in buying some extra chargers and a few 901 sets - 6 full sets for about £73GBP sounds pretty appealing.

Don't know if I'd go for the liquid, though. I think I'd get tired of the taste and want a change after a short while. Unless the idea is to do swaps of 15 or 30 mil bottles with with other forum users.

Hmm... There's a thought :w00t:

Kev
 

freddo

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Hi, just got a reply from central trade and they said they can send each parcel to different address' as long as it isn't too complicated. This makes things sound alot more appealing.

So all we would need to do is send the money to one person along with your specific order, they send it to centraltrade and bobs your uncle. I wouldn't mind filling that spot, and it wouldn't take long to sort out as long as you trust me:D

I'm quite interested in the 'lady pipes' but wouldn't want the full 12, so doing some swaps and shares does sound good.

anyone?
 

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yeah, i think i'll need to stock up on some liquid. hope we can get it before johnny law steps in to slap our wrists. january might even be too late, but we might as well try. better pick some good flavours cause i'll be vaping it for a year. probably pick up a year supply of 901 atts while i am at it. then i'll be set - till someone starts making good ones.
 

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I don't think that asking CT to split an order and post bits of it to individuals would be a good idea - several packages could go missing in the post and then what happens?

Customs charges are a lottery - Everyone taking part should should budget to pay an extra 25% on top of what they pay for their initial order to cover the possibility of customs charges.
 

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Having imported a fair bit of stuff myself eyespy I would tend to agree with you about splitting the order. Some of it could be charged, some of it wouldn't, some of it could get lost. If its all sent by EMS to one person at least it would be easier to keep track of. I'd suggest splitting e-liquid from everything else though.
 

freddo

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here is the email they sent me:

Hello,

Thanks for your e-mail, yes we can arrange if not too complex, we have done this in the past, but to make us easy each order must have clear shipment and personal informations.
Also be sure that the distonations belongs Not to remote AREAS , and that liquid orders must send separete by EMS courier.

Hope this answer is helpful

Many greetz,

Jocelyn
 

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After my first post on this thread decided it would be an idea to do a bit more research so went back and read thru' all 19 pages about Pakaday's purchase & distribution. I've also spent hours on HMRC's website then got all brave and got in touch with HM Revenue & Customs to get advice - even ended up talking to one lass who is a smoker and actually KNEW what I was talking about as she's seen some people using e-cigs!

The long & the short of it: Pakaday's import into Aus DID get charged duty etc so I assume all 'joiners in' had to pay up their share in their prices. People he sent packages to here in UK mostly seem to have got away with it (none reported being taxed) but that was pure luck and nothing else.

Assuming these are 'postal' imports, the receiver WILL have to pay the Duty and VAT before they will be able to collect the package from a local Post Office depot. In addition, the classification codes which determine the duty rates (and you will need to know to fill out Customs form C88 before you can pay the duty & collect the goods) are being looked at and COULD be changed in next 4-6 weeks. Thanks, Brussels.

The current rates of duty are 3.7% for e-cigs which would include atomisers and batteries as well, rate for cartridges and liquid is 6.5%. Each of those plus 15% VAT as well so total 18.7% on cigs and 21.5% on liquids.

That will be based on sterling equivalent of USD at exchange rate of 1.51 for December. That rate will change in January. Could well go down, i.e. get worse from our point of view. It is the date of arrival that matters. Eyespy's estimate of allowing 25% extra is probably about right once you allow for that as well.

Trust me, that IS the short of it even if it doesn't look like it! Sorry to be so boring about it but Customs & Excise aren't people to fool around with. Even with the additions, the prices will still be well below what you pay from suppliers here. They also have premises costs, overheads etc - I'm not having a go.

DC2K08, do you have any specific info about risk of liquids getting banned? You've got me a bit worried there. I didn't actually ask about that, which I probably should have done.
 

eyespy

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Tetsab said:
...Assuming these are 'postal' imports, the receiver WILL have to pay the Duty and VAT before they will be able to collect the package from a local Post Office depot...

If the package gets stopped at customs it'll be Parcel Force who pick it up - they take it to a depot near the delivery address and then send you a letter to come and collect - that's when they hit you with their fee :mad:

I've imported motor parts and electronics from the USA and Asia and IF they get stopped at customs you can count on duty + vat + Parcel Forces charge which all adds up to near as damn it 25% of the original cost.

Note - original cost = purchase price + the postage charge from where it came from :mad::mad:
 

Bertrand

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I've imported motor parts and electronics from the USA and Asia and IF they get stopped at customs you can count on duty + vat + Parcel Forces charge which all adds up to near as damn it 25% of the original cost.

I've had cigars labeled "motor parts" that got seized. They got AUD350 out of me on that one.
 
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