I ordered one should be here Monday I'll post a short review after I try it out for a couple of days.
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The OLED screen on this unit is absolutely fantastic. It's the same screen used on the ultimo that GotVapes sells. I was seriously considering buying one of the mini lava tubes until I heard about this unit and decided to hold off until this came to market just because of the OLED screen. I have a vision problem so sometimes reading LED screens can be difficult. But I have no problem with OLED even as tiny as the readouts are.
I was thinking of getting one of these..my only issue is the warranty seems to be less than a month compared to the 1 year warranty on the lavatube
I wonder if these will be pulse modulated like the vision gripper/f50/whatever it is. I'm looking forward to some reviews.
My only issue is the warranty, as well. Vaporheads seems to be offering a 6 mo warranty, but it has listed only the 1 5m tank, instead of the others which show a 2.5 tank as well. I dont think they're tanks, exactly, but more clearomizer giants. Clearomizers tend not to be my fave, but will still be cool to try em both.
Ok, so same thing with my LT hunt... now I think I want one of these instead. Kind of a bummer they're all black, because I was excited about getting the LT in chrome, but unit still looks cooler to me, and the smaller size option is a good thing. BUT these suppliers are making me crazy because they all market the product with a different name. So does anyone have more suppliers carrying this to the mix? I'm a budget shopper, and dying to find the best warranty, as well.
Ok, so same thing with my LT hunt... now I think I want one of these instead. Kind of a bummer they're all black, because I was excited about getting the LT in chrome, but unit still looks cooler to me, and the smaller size option is a good thing. BUT these suppliers are making me crazy because they all market the product with a different name. So does anyone have more suppliers carrying this to the mix? I'm a budget shopper, and dying to find the best warranty, as well.
I know it is rough, but wait a month. The market will be flooded with both. Color options are out for the LT now. Both SEEM to be comparable...I know I will have them both soon as I am mod nut!
vaporheads has the best warrenty, litecig has the best price. I to wanted a lava tube first, but I wanted it in red, they kept saying it was coming, it was coming, then they got it in and it was Pink! Then they said early feb from 2 sites, well neither has the red in yet and with the Tox you get more for your money.
Oh, the irony. I've wanted a Lavatube for ages, and finally broke down and ordered one last night when LeCig posted their big sale (use "vv" as a coupon code and you get the entire kit for 65 bucks, shipped). Sure enough, right after I put the order through, I spot the Vision-TOX, and now I'm drooling again.
Interestingly enough, Vision's website shows two different, but virtually identical products. They've got the Vision-Tox right next to another entry for the revised Lava Tube.
And I still would love to grab one of Volcano's red units. I wouldn't say they're pink, really. They were supposed to be typical Volcano red, but came out looking magenta, so instead of tossing them they just listed 'em as a Limited Edition. lol (Gotta love it) I still think they look great, though. I mainly want one so I can swap end caps around with the black one I ordered. Black with magenta caps, and magenta with black caps. Awesomeness.
EDIT: Almost forgot. Everyone's talking about warranties, so I figured I'd point out that you could always grab an extended warranty from a secondary outfit. I just checked, and a 3-year warranty from Squaretrade only costs $10.99. To get that quote I simply listed the item under Misc Electronics and used LiteCig's 69.95 price (cheapest I could find so far). Warranty problem solved.
I've used Squaretrade now for several years, and can verify they're a great outfit for warranties. If it breaks down (naturally, not through mishandling), they'll take care of you with no hassles, and an item in this price-range would automatically generate a simple payout, not repair, so you could just replace the unit. They usually don't try to repair things unless they cost, oh, something like 250 or 300 bucks or higher.
Interestingly enough, Vision's website shows two different, but virtually identical products. They've got the Vision-Tox right next to another entry for the revised Lava Tube.
And I still would love to grab one of Volcano's red units. I wouldn't say they're pink, really. They were supposed to be typical Volcano red, but came out looking magenta, so instead of tossing them they just listed 'em as a Limited Edition. lol (Gotta love it) I still think they look great, though. I mainly want one so I can swap end caps around with the black one I ordered. Black with magenta caps, and magenta with black caps. Awesomeness.
EDIT: Almost forgot. Everyone's talking about warranties, so I figured I'd point out that you could always grab an extended warranty from a secondary outfit. I just checked, and a 3-year warranty from Squaretrade only costs $10.99. To get that quote I simply listed the item under Misc Electronics and used LiteCig's 69.95 price (cheapest I could find so far). Warranty problem solved.
I've used Squaretrade now for several years, and can verify they're a great outfit for warranties. If it breaks down (naturally, not through mishandling), they'll take care of you with no hassles, and an item in this price-range would automatically generate a simple payout, not repair, so you could just replace the unit. They usually don't try to repair things unless they cost, oh, something like 250 or 300 bucks or higher.
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I wonder if the newer "Lava Tube" is actually just the same kit as the TOX, but exclusively using only the 18650 tube (the one that we're supposed to be able to buy by itself as an add-on at a later date)? That would account for both the description and pics.
look at the display in the photo's. The "lavatube" one has what seems to be a red display. The "tox" does not.
The LT is definately an LCD. Thinking that was likely a typo though
I don't care who makes it or what bells and whistles it has. 2.5A limit is a deal-breaker for me, just as it was on the first generation ProVari. Worst implementation (for my purposes) is the original LavaTube, with its automatic (stealth) reduction in voltage whenever 2.5A is exceeded. Next worst is either shut-down or error-code refusal to fire in excess of 2.5A.
For lots of people, a 2.5A limit will be fine. Those who use standard or higher resistance atties/cartos will have no problem, and for them, the current units---LavaTube, Vision TOX, whatever---are a relatively low-cost solution to a metal tube VV with a voltage display and precise incremental adjustment of voltage.
My preferred atomizing devices, however, are 1.5-1.6 ohm dual-coil cartos or 1.7 ohm Resurrectors, either alone or inside tanks. With those, 2.5 amps at 1.6 ohms tops out at 4.0V, and 1.5 ohms tops out at 3.8V. For me personally, those relatively low max voltages defeat the whole purpose of higher voltage VVs, whether boost or buck. Heck, I might as well use eGo batts.
Yeah, I could use 2.0 ohm or even 2.5 ohm DCs, but I already have an inventory of about 70 low-resistance DCs and Resurrectors, and I like them, so I would be less than thrilled to have to buy another stash of higher-resistance cartos.
I run my 1.5/1.6 ohm dual coils at 4.5V (sweet spot), and even sometimes at 5V (warmer vape). All of my eight Madvapes VV boxes, my Buzz Pro, and most of my various 5V-regulated mods pull that off without breaking a sweat. Ohm's Law translation at 4.5V through 1.5 ohms is 3.0A current and 13.5W power. Whether or not that is "too much to expect" is irrelevant to me---it's simply my minimum requirement if I'm going to throw money at at any more VVs.
I read speculation that next-generation LavaTubes and clones may increase the limit to 3.5A, just as the ProVari did. If and when that occurs, I might buy one. Until then, not a chance.
For lots of people, a 2.5A limit will be fine. Those who use standard or higher resistance atties/cartos will have no problem, and for them, the current units---LavaTube, Vision TOX, whatever---are a relatively low-cost solution to a metal tube VV with a voltage display and precise incremental adjustment of voltage.
My preferred atomizing devices, however, are 1.5-1.6 ohm dual-coil cartos or 1.7 ohm Resurrectors, either alone or inside tanks. With those, 2.5 amps at 1.6 ohms tops out at 4.0V, and 1.5 ohms tops out at 3.8V. For me personally, those relatively low max voltages defeat the whole purpose of higher voltage VVs, whether boost or buck. Heck, I might as well use eGo batts.
Yeah, I could use 2.0 ohm or even 2.5 ohm DCs, but I already have an inventory of about 70 low-resistance DCs and Resurrectors, and I like them, so I would be less than thrilled to have to buy another stash of higher-resistance cartos.
I run my 1.5/1.6 ohm dual coils at 4.5V (sweet spot), and even sometimes at 5V (warmer vape). All of my eight Madvapes VV boxes, my Buzz Pro, and most of my various 5V-regulated mods pull that off without breaking a sweat. Ohm's Law translation at 4.5V through 1.5 ohms is 3.0A current and 13.5W power. Whether or not that is "too much to expect" is irrelevant to me---it's simply my minimum requirement if I'm going to throw money at at any more VVs.
I read speculation that next-generation LavaTubes and clones may increase the limit to 3.5A, just as the ProVari did. If and when that occurs, I might buy one. Until then, not a chance.
I read speculation that next-generation LavaTubes and clones may increase the limit to 3.5A, just as the ProVari did. If and when that occurs, I might buy one. Until then, not a chance.[/QUOTE]
Everything you say is true and my main gripe as well with the 2.5a single battery VV units available. I am curious as to whether the 3.5a Provari or any other single battery unit will be able to hold the voltage setting at 5V or above with DC LR vaping even with a fully charged battery and what will happen as battery charge drops.
Have you read any reviews on the Provari that covers that point? Hopefully Steve @ Steve K's Vaping World - e-Cigarette Reviews and e-cig News will have a review up shortly.
Errol
Everything you say is true and my main gripe as well with the 2.5a single battery VV units available. I am curious as to whether the 3.5a Provari or any other single battery unit will be able to hold the voltage setting at 5V or above with DC LR vaping even with a fully charged battery and what will happen as battery charge drops.
Have you read any reviews on the Provari that covers that point? Hopefully Steve @ Steve K's Vaping World - e-Cigarette Reviews and e-cig News will have a review up shortly.
Errol
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Man - I would get fired for putting stuff like this into production (see red words below)! - I think I will hold out for a 18650 tube. Does bother me that the batteries aren't even covered DOA.
The "TOX" Vari-Tube from Vision comes with the following:
1 x 510 threaded IC loed display control head
1 x 18500 battery tube
1 x 18350 battery tube
1 x Battery tube end cap
1 x 18500 Li-Ion Battery
1 x 18350 Li-Ion Battery
1 x 2.5ml Vision Clearomizer
1 x 4.5ml Vision Giant Clearomizer
1 x Single Universal Li-Ion battery charger
1 x 10ml dripper bottle
1 x Carrying lanyard/strap
Do to the nature of the unit, this is the following warranty information for this item:
IC control head is warranted for 14 days.
Battery tubes, and end cap are warranted for 14 days, cross threading is not covered.
Batteries, Clearomizers and all other items included in the kit carry NO warranty.
The "TOX" Vari-Tube from Vision comes with the following:
1 x 510 threaded IC loed display control head
1 x 18500 battery tube
1 x 18350 battery tube
1 x Battery tube end cap
1 x 18500 Li-Ion Battery
1 x 18350 Li-Ion Battery
1 x 2.5ml Vision Clearomizer
1 x 4.5ml Vision Giant Clearomizer
1 x Single Universal Li-Ion battery charger
1 x 10ml dripper bottle
1 x Carrying lanyard/strap
Do to the nature of the unit, this is the following warranty information for this item:
IC control head is warranted for 14 days.
Battery tubes, and end cap are warranted for 14 days, cross threading is not covered.
Batteries, Clearomizers and all other items included in the kit carry NO warranty.
Those horrible, bad, useless Provari v1's with that 2.5A limit.
I can imagine the frustration of those that had paid the exorbitant Provari price when they discovered the problems with LR and/or DC units. It's a heck of a price to pay just to say you have a Provari.
Wish you had posted the Litecigusa price yesterday as I bought from Kalamazoo last night.
A minor consolation is he includes Priority Mail shipping in the $80 cost.Errol
Those horrible, bad, useless Provari v1's with that 2.5A limit.
Joe,
I'm not down on the ProVari. It's a well-made, thoughtful, marvelously sophisticated VV mod with many terrific features. I especially like that it reads the resistance of atties/cartos. Same with a Darwin. They are both state of the art.
The v1 ProVari just doesn't suit my particular vaping habits. Neither does the LavaTube or Vision TOX. That said, I hope you love yours and go right to Vaping Nirvana with it!
The LT is definately an LCD. Thinking that was likely a typo though
Oh my, yes it was. Thanks for pointing that out.
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