Anyone try the Vision Tox Kit?

[carlton]

That's what happens when you copy/paste straight off of Vision's Chinese site. lol

And a 14 day warranty is ridiculous. Stand behind your stuff or don't sell it. (I don't even know what company you copied that from. It's probably one of my main suppliers. )

Man - I would get fired for putting stuff like this into production (see red words below)! - I think I will hold out for a 18650 tube. Does bother me that the batteries aren't even covered DOA.

The "TOX" Vari-Tube from Vision comes with the following:

1 x 510 threaded IC loed display control head
1 x 18500 battery tube
1 x 18350 battery tube
1 x Battery tube end cap
1 x 18500 Li-Ion Battery
1 x 18350 Li-Ion Battery
1 x 2.5ml Vision Clearomizer
1 x 4.5ml Vision Giant Clearomizer
1 x Single Universal Li-Ion battery charger
1 x 10ml dripper bottle
1 x Carrying lanyard/strap

Do to the nature of the unit, this is the following warranty information for this item:

IC control head is warranted for 14 days.

Battery tubes, and end cap are warranted for 14 days, cross threading is not covered.

batteries, Clearomizers and all other items included in the kit carry NO warranty.

 

[orachel]

Oh, the irony. I've wanted a Lavatube for ages, and finally broke down and ordered one last night when LeCig posted their big sale (use "vv" as a coupon code and you get the entire kit for 65 bucks, shipped). Sure enough, right after I put the order through, I spot the Vision-TOX, and now I'm drooling again.

Interestingly enough, Vision's website shows two different, but virtually identical products. They've got the Vision-Tox right next to another entry for the revised Lava Tube.

And I still would love to grab one of Volcano's red units. I wouldn't say they're pink, really. They were supposed to be typical Volcano red, but came out looking magenta, so instead of tossing them they just listed 'em as a Limited Edition. lol (Gotta love it) I still think they look great, though. I mainly want one so I can swap end caps around with the black one I ordered. Black with magenta caps, and magenta with black caps. Awesomeness.

EDIT: Almost forgot. Everyone's talking about warranties, so I figured I'd point out that you could always grab an extended warranty from a secondary outfit. I just checked, and a 3-year warranty from Squaretrade only costs $10.99. To get that quote I simply listed the item under Misc Electronics and used LiteCig's 69.95 price (cheapest I could find so far). Warranty problem solved. I've used Squaretrade now for several years, and can verify they're a great outfit for warranties. If it breaks down (naturally, not through mishandling), they'll take care of you with no hassles, and an item in this price-range would automatically generate a simple payout, not repair, so you could just replace the unit. They usually don't try to repair things unless they cost, oh, something like 250 or 300 bucks or higher.

Forgive me if i'm asking what's already been asked, but could you give me an idea of what this squaretrade deal is? never heard of it before. I just purchase a warranty for misc elec item for lowest price I find, and for $11 I've got a 3 year warranty? no kidding?? Omg.. you just MADE MY WEEK!!

 

[CthulhuSaves]

SquareTrade has been around for a few years now, and I've warrantied a ton of stuff through them. Only had to make use of those warranties a couple of times, but as with any warranty, it's simply nice to know your gear is covered. I seem to recall that my last time around they had changed some of the rules, and you've got to provide some sort of receipt or additional proof of the original purchase, but fortunately Paypal saves everything, and all I had to do was email a copy of the page to some gal over the phone and that worked fine.

They do expect you to try and use the manufacturer's warranty first. The intent of ST is to give you an extended backup warranty to the original, so if the default is still active you'll need to go that route first. If that warranty won't cover it or is expired, then the ST warranty comes into play. They'll also want to try and have the device repaired as the primary goal, as opposed to a direct payout, but there's a dollar limit that, if you're under it, they'll just go ahead and skip that step and pay you (once you've sent them the faulty item and they've verified it's really toast). I think that limit was somewhere around 250-300 bucks.

All-in-all they've turned out to be an awesome and incredibly handy service, at least for me. They must also have deals worked out with various companies, because you'll sometimes see SquareTrade warranties listed as an option beside products on their sale pages, and whenever I buy some electronic item off of eBay I quickly get an email from ST offering me a warranty. If you're thinking of using them, go make an account first, and sign up for their newsletter. They're constantly offering promotions, such as 30% off new warranties during some holiday period, etc. Very cool.

(And no, I'm just a customer, not affiliated with 'em!)

 

[Robby]

Thanks for the info cthulhusaves....good to know theres some options for warranties

 

[Butters78]

I would trade the "puff counter" for the 3.5 limit any day. Why do you need to know the exact number of hits? I mean I'll take a good solid toilet that can handle taco bell night over one that tells me how many times I did business any given day. It displays the date? My cell phone does that just fine.

 

[Errol]

I would trade the "puff counter" for the 3.5 limit any day. Why do you need to know the exact number of hits? I mean I'll take a good solid toilet that can handle taco bell night over one that tells me how many times I did business any given day. It displays the date? My cell phone does that just fine.

Have to agree with you. All I want the + and - button to do is change the voltage. I'm just a tad disappointed in the overall build quality and functionality of the power head, no where near that of my LavaTube. Suppose I'll get used to it.

Errol

 

[orachel]

CthulhuSaves, i just sent you a pm. Getting one of those as soon as I get my pv, and dude on the phone said they had a referral program that'll pay you $5, so that's why I'm pming. Awesome info, thanks so much!

 

[CthulhuSaves]

Thanks, Rachel. Just saw your PM and replied. Glad to help. Had no idea about a referral setup, but not about to turn it down. I've been fretting over whether I could afford a spiffy 6v PV I saw (it's called the Indulgence, and has no electronics; it's just a workhorse type), so I'll put that 5 bucks in the kitty towards that. Pretty cool!

 

[myasin]

I suggest they take the CE2 tank carto thing out of the kit and lower the price $20. That thing is going rite in the trash anyhow.

Hi, what is your setup if you do not use those cartomizers. I am planning to purchase a Vision TOX and I want to learn what is the best configuration.

Thanks...

 

[CoyoteRed]

So,are you saying the main difference is the OLED screen? I saw this and thought it may be a better deal especially if you want to use an 18650 bat.:

Torpedo VVV Full Kit - with free 10ml bottle of Red Label E-Liquid

Variable Voltage Vaping from Totally Wicked!

The Torpedo VVV! It's time to kick your vaping into high gear! The all new Torpedo VVV is a specially designed variable voltage electronic cigarette that provides you with anywhere from 3 to 6 volts of vaping power with the easy click of a few buttons. There are many cool features and tech specs that separate the Torpedo VVV from the herd.

This device is better suited to the more experienced vapers as the as the variation in the vaping experience can be dramatically affected by the voltage used and a greater understanding of this can be beneficial.

Torpedo VVV Features:

- Aluminium Body
- 1 Power button
- 1 Voltage up button
- 1 Voltage down button
- 1 Activation button
- 1 LCD screen, which shows the current voltage the device is set on
- 1 510 threaded connection
- 1 Vented removable end cap with spring for battery tension
- Uses 1 - 18650 flat top high drain battery

Kit Contents:

1 x Torpedo
2 x 2200maH lithium cell batteries
1 x 2 cell battery charger
2 x 3ohm 510 bridged atomizers
1 x Chrome finished drip tip
1 x User manual.

Plus free 10ml bottle of Red Label E-Liquid of your choice.

Torpedo Body Dimension 125mm (L) x 22mm (D)

Technical Specs:

Selectable voltage from 3v to 6v in 0.1v increments.
Power on/off button - Hold the button down for 5 seconds to turn the device on, hold the button again for 5 seconds to turn the device off.
+ Button: On press, increases voltage by 0.1 increments between 3v and 6v. When you reach 6v, the user starts back at 3v.
- Button: On press, decreases voltage by 0.1 increments between 3v and 6v. When you reach 3v, the user starts back at 6v.
+ and - Button: Press and hold both buttons for 5 seconds to disable the + and - button, locking the device on the voltage it is currently set at.
Regulated output which keeps the voltage the same with each puff - regardless of the remaining battery power. As the battery drains, the device will keep the voltage consistent.
If the power button is held down for 10 seconds or longer, the Torpedo VVV will shut itself off until the button is released. To prevent overheating the Atomizer and the device.
Short Circuit/Atomiser Protection. The Torpedo VVV can recognize an Atomiser with too low of a resistance for the current voltage setting and will drop the voltage to 3.7v to protect both the battery and Atomiser. If the Atomiser is too low or shorted out it will shut off power to the device to protect the Torpedo VVV from being damaged.
Reverse Battery Protection - Protects the device in case you put the battery in the device backwards.
Battery Monitoring/Over-Discharge Protection - The device will monitor the battery voltage and automatically turn off when the battery is discharged, preventing damage to the battery by overly depleting it.
Battery Voltage Meter. The Torpedo VVV has a voltage meter built in, simply press the red power button 7 times and it will display the voltage of the battery for a few seconds. This way you can monitor the power left in the battery before it needs to be recharged. 18650 batteries provide 4.2v at peak charge and over the life of the battery that voltage will decrease to about 3.3v level before needing to be recharged. This will help you monitor the life cycle of the battery. The LCD screen will flash when the battery needs to be recharged, and will stop powering the device.
Amperage Limiting to 2.5amps - The device should monitor and shut itself off if it detects any excessive over-current conditions.
Vent hole on the bottom of the device for added safety.
Special Torpedo VVV Warranty Information:

The TORPEDO VVV unit will include a 1 Year Limited Warranty against any manufacturing defects from the date of purchase. We strongly suggest that you use the Flat nosed IMR High Drain 18650 Lithium Ion Batteries that we sell. We also suggest the 510 threaded atomizer be used. We strongly recommend atomizer with a 2.3 ohm resistance or greater to use with the Torpedo VVV.
The Flat Nosed IMR High Drain Batteries will be warranted for 90 days from the date of purchase. Please ensure you fully charge your batteries in-between use and follow safe storage practices when not in use.

 

[CoyoteRed]

I'm having a hard time seeing an advantage of the Vision Tox over this... That being said I have a Tox on order and scheduled for delivery tomorrow. I still wonder if this may have been a better buy..

 

[MASTER0FDAMPF]

The main difference is clarity in the display, placement of buttons and the swappable tubes. I think I will have both just to be sure!

 

[CoyoteRed]

This even uses a trustfire charger. Sorry for the small pic,I'm new to posting..

 

[Errol]

I'm having a hard time seeing an advantage of the Vision Tox over this... That being said I have a Tox on order and scheduled for delivery tomorrow. I still wonder if this may have been a better buy..

I received my Vision Tox a few days back and was totally disappointed in it, so much so that I sent it back for a refund. That little misadventure ended up costing me nearly $30 by the time I paid for return shipping.

The kit from Totally Wicked is a much better deal at $68 delivered, even if the price was the same for the Tox.

Torpedo VVV E.Cig - Wicked Wowzer Offer!

 

[maximaseefu]

View attachment 82682This even uses a trustfire charger. Sorry for the small pic,I'm new to posting..

I just bought this, it will be my first vv. I just started vaping again 2/18/12 and have not had an analog since. I really hope I like it. I had to pay tax since they are in florida.

 

[CthulhuSaves]

Wish that sale had been active a week ago. Got my LavaClone from LeCig yesterday in the mail for the same price as above. The batts are generic (unmarked, anyway, and I'm afraid probably not protected), the charger is also no-name and fits only 1 batt, there's no bonus juice or drip tip (but I knew that, so can't complain), and one of the 3ohm atties was DOA. Only reason I didn't contact LeCig about that is simply my lack of interest in atties at all (I've completely switched to cartos now).

On the upside, the device itself works very well, and is solidly built. In truth I'd have rather bought directly from Volcano, but when you're disabled and on a small, fixed income, that 35-buck difference is a huge factor.

 

[Errol]

Wish that sale had been active a week ago. Got my LavaClone from LeCig yesterday in the mail for the same price as above. The batts are generic (unmarked, anyway, and I'm afraid probably not protected), the charger is also no-name and fits only 1 batt, there's no bonus juice or drip tip (but I knew that, so can't complain), and one of the 3ohm atties was DOA. Only reason I didn't contact LeCig about that is simply my lack of interest in atties at all (I've completely switched to cartos now).

On the upside, the device itself works very well, and is solidly built. In truth I'd have rather bought directly from Volcano, but when you're disabled and on a small, fixed income, that 35-buck difference is a huge factor.

Volcano has exclusive rights to the name Lavatube in the US so all of the other units on the market are the same unit built by the same manufacturer but with a different name. I think you'll be quite happy with your LeCig, AKA Lavatube. Just be glad you didn't buy the Vision Tox.

I've had my Lavatube since the day it became available and it's been bullet proof on low demand vaping devices. Doesn't do well on LR and/or DC units but it's just as efficient as the Provari V1 which is what it competes with.

Errol

 

[CthulhuSaves]

Volcano has exclusive rights to the name Lavatube in the US so all of the other units on the market are the same unit built by the same manufacturer but with a different name. I think you'll be quite happy with your LeCig, AKA Lavatube.

According to what I've heard and read, that's close, but not quite right. Volcano designed the LavaTube (I'm a Volcano-ite, so to speak, and watched the progress from beginning to end in their forums, and got to see posted design specs and such), but somehow lost the exclusive rights to their own product. No clue about that. Apparently other people can use the name (or do, but shouldn't), but it really pisses Volcano off, or at least some of them. Joe's good about holding his tongue here on ECF, but man, if you accidentally push some people's buttons on this issue, best to just dive for cover and wait for the storm to blow over. I don't blame them, though. I'd be ......, too. As a courtesy to Volcano, I'll only use the term LavaClone now when referring to knockoffs (even good knockoffs).

I've also been told the quality isn't necessarily good for clones. Naturally the assumption is of poor quality, but I suspect that's not always going to be the case. As you pointed out, the LeCig LC is, apparently, a solidly-built unit, albeit in an absolutely crappy "kit" package filled with substandard extras.

Just be glad you didn't buy the Vision Tox.

I dunno, I'm really impressed with it based on what I've seen & read online so far, and have seen a review or two that was very positive. Looking forward to seeing what Busardo thinks of them. Absolutely love the concept, at least, and the features are a lot more than what some of the kneejerk denials have claimed (which is why I don't trust those opinions). You, at least, made your decision after actually using it, so I can respect that, even if my gut tells me I'd still like it. Won't know for sure until I can get my hands on one.

I've had my Lavatube since the day it became available and it's been bullet proof on low demand vaping devices. Doesn't do well on LR and/or DC units but it's just as efficient as the Provari which is what it competes with.

One of the chief complaints about the LT (and clones) is that they've got that circuit protection thingie that won't allow certain voltages to be fully used on different ohm cartos (it throttles back to match what the carto can actually handle). Personally, I like that, but some don't. You mention the Pro Vari, and I read the other day that the first gens did the exact same thing, but that they don't now, so that's a difference to note.

Also, my LavaClone is giving me some interesting results. I've tried cranking up the voltage to test it, and it seems to be acting like it doesn't have the protection. I grab a SR carto and slap it on, and that should top out at around 4 volts or so (I've got a chart around here somewhere; a screenshot from PBusardo's review where he made a graph), and it sizzles if you start going too high.

 

[midficollege]

You mention the Pro Vari, and I read the other day that the first gens did the exact same thing, but that they don't now, so that's a difference to note.

The way that the Provari works is that if you input a voltage that causes current too high for its switch (previously 2.5A, now 3.5A) it gives an error and refuses to fire. That hasn't changed. The lavatube merely gives 2.5 amps regardless of how much higher you set the voltage.

For example, with a 2.0 ohm cartomizer:
Lavatube at 5.0 volts: Fires at 5.0 volts
Provari Gen 1 at 5.0: Fires at 5.0 volts

Lavatube at 5.1 volts: Fires at 5.0 volts
Provari Gen 1 at 5.1 volts: Doesn't fire at all.

Now, with the 3.5 amp switch, that allows the provari to go up to 5.9 volts with a 1.7 ohm Resurrector cartomizer, while the Lavatube is limited to 4.2 volts on that same cartomizer.

However, that 4.2 volts is still 10.3 watts, while the 5.9 volts from the Provari is 20.5 watts.

While that seems like a big difference, most people won't be vaping at 10 watts due to feeding concerns and vapor temperature even, anyway.

 

[Slickstick]

Well at any rate, I have these in stock now. I sent a kit to Phil for review. Good or bad, I would like to know his take on it myself. I have decided not to use the warranty and lowered the price instead, to what I think it SHOULD be. Squaretrade seems like a nice deal for a warranty if it is legit. I can see many people loving this, but after getting it in my hand myself, I know it is not one for me personally. While I know the 5ml grande tank is awesome and the protected batteries are a major plus for me as well as the aluminum tubes and endcap, the main top piece appears to be plastic. This annoys me.