Anything else we can vape instead of PG, VG, and PEG?
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I don't know, but aloe vera that can be taken internally occurred to me awhile ago. I saw it once in a pharmacy, it's clear and it might heal your lungs too! After looking it up on the web, it seems to be called 'juice of aloe'.
Apparently there are a lot of variations between formulas for this stuff with regards to preservatives, viscosity, etc. I don't know how it tastes, or how it vapes so someone would have to try some out.
Apparently there are a lot of variations between formulas for this stuff with regards to preservatives, viscosity, etc. I don't know how it tastes, or how it vapes so someone would have to try some out.
Since there hasn't been a lot of discussion about this, I'm guessing it's not heavily explored territory.
I recall some people saying alcohol was too thin.
Others said they mixed their favorite flavored alcohol with 50% glycerin and had success (sounds very viable).
I have not tried this, but you might be able to use a tiny amount of honey or molasses to put a little bit of backbone into your alcohol (not sure how those would mix), but there would be a danger of rapid gunk build up on the atomizer.
The use of pure aloe (some health junkies drink the stuff) sounds fascinating.
I recall some people saying alcohol was too thin.
Others said they mixed their favorite flavored alcohol with 50% glycerin and had success (sounds very viable).
I have not tried this, but you might be able to use a tiny amount of honey or molasses to put a little bit of backbone into your alcohol (not sure how those would mix), but there would be a danger of rapid gunk build up on the atomizer.
The use of pure aloe (some health junkies drink the stuff) sounds fascinating.
I get really hoarse and lose my voice using the VG an PG. I think PEG would probably do the same thing...
Isn't there anything else we could use for eliquid?????
I've tried dipping the atomizer in drinks (i.e. coffee, tea, etc) and vape! 8-o
No go!
aloe juice tastes disgusting,i could only imagine how it would vape.if it would.poop!
I would try alcohol based herbal tinctures, something innocent like chamomille or rosehip. Maybe mix 50/50 with VG for vapor?
As for adding honey and the like, I read somewhere here that sweet/sugar-containing substances kill atomizers. Have not tried this myself though. At the moment I am vaping pure VG (dripping on atomizer that had some nicotine juice leftovers) and producing tons of vapor without throat burn. PG and/or nicotine burns my throat too....
As for adding honey and the like, I read somewhere here that sweet/sugar-containing substances kill atomizers. Have not tried this myself though. At the moment I am vaping pure VG (dripping on atomizer that had some nicotine juice leftovers) and producing tons of vapor without throat burn. PG and/or nicotine burns my throat too....
i read that someone was gonna try to use the baking flavour extract instead of the pg or the the vg in their eliquid for vaping but does anyone know if this safe and also does anyone have the ingrediants to make a vapor liquid with this extract, that would be nicotine free and something you can make at home that dont cost a lot? thanks
I've been wondering about that dilemma myself, I gave up PG, went to VG with so far great success, but what if? Am wondering if PG or VG could be softened a bit by changing the ph of the juice. And which way, towards acid or more alkaline??? (More alkaline makes for better nic absorbtion, so would think that would be the way to go, but could be wrong about that.) Now the big thing: for acid add vinegar, for alkaline what plain old salt (sea salt).
dont quote me, but alkaline/base is what gives more throat hit in juice, rather than the acidity. people had experimented with lemon juice and citric acids with no real increase in "hit" and so it seemed they needed to go the other way on the pH.
Need some expertise here, any chemists around? Medical?
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Found some info: regarding Thread Question.
There are actually 3 of these posted on Perfumers' Apprentice, regarding glucam. Made from corn. Check the "conclusion" on the last page. Extremely interesting.
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Have you tried altering ph to more acid? Just still curious, people seem to think the 'nic' is the hit, but it could also be the flavors, not the nic. ???
I also wonder about this, since I feel that a lot of my addiction is the hand movement and the smoke factor. Would love to find something that I could vape that is super super cheap that I can get at a local store.
It seems to me, that vaporizing anything could be a health issue, unless you know what that product does when vaporized. Taking chances with PG/VG is bad enough, but some of these, i would be scared, lol.
Just my 2 cents, which in US money know a days, dont mean much.
Just my 2 cents, which in US money know a days, dont mean much.
personally i've not tried adjusting pH for hit.
but...5v offers great hit, even with low to no nic
I've been wondering the same thing...what else is out there - if there's such a thing as an oil free herbal extract, would that be doable?
Oops...guess I'm quoting you...
Flitzanu, I'm always looking for more throat hit, so after reading your post, I was wondering about alkaline liquids and discovered that herbal tea is alkaline. Has anybody tried tea?
In discussing changing Ph levels, I think we should be talking about substances that are "base" as opposed to "acid" instead of saying "alkaline" and "alkalinity", strictly speaking. It's picky, I know, but see this Wikipedia reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkali
It's well known that adding grain alcohol (vodka, PGAs like Everclear and Gem Clear, even whiskeys) increases throat hit. I know that alcohol is a base.
Given that topic in this thread, I want to warn that we need to avoid anything that is too strongly base. Beyond a certain point you would be moving into a dangerous territory. I'm not going to mention what substances I'm thinking of, just don't vape or add into your mix anything that common sense tells you could be harmful. Most of us are not chemists and shouldn't try to make the leap of using strong bases, which are caustic (burns you). If it can cause chemical burns on skin, or has a big warning on it not to inhale the fumes, absolutely don't experiment even with tiny tiny quantities. You just don't know what the effects could be.
Finally, baking soda (not baking powder) is a commonly known base as well, that is easily soluble in water. Has anyone tried using it to increase throat hit? Might be worth a try.
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