Anything else we can vape instead of PG, VG, and PEG?

[HighTech]

dont quote me, but alkaline/base is what gives more throat hit in juice, rather than the acidity. people had experimented with lemon juice and citric acids with no real increase in "hit" and so it seemed they needed to go the other way on the pH.

Whoops, I quoted you

You are correct in your assumption. Nicotine is a strong base. PG is basically neutral. Often critic acid is added to balance the pH. Adding most flavorings is going to increase the pH further, which is great for nicotine absorption, but not so good for throat hit. A lower pH would give a better throat hit, but you would probably vape a lot more due to the lower absorption. A lower pH would also tend to degrade faster, meaning your solution would not last as long. Solutions kept away from light, in dark containers, as well as refrigerated should be good for at least 6 months without degradation.

Also, remember that just because something is considered safe to eat, does not mean its safe to inhale. Organics can act differently via a different route of entry. PG inserted in your ..., makes for one hell of an enema... lol. I consider PG and VG pretty safe from all the reports I've read. Alternative ingredients for vaping should be well researched prior to use, but feel free to experiment and report your findings...

 

[Laramie]

Hello,
PG vapor was used in one NZ juvenile hospital ward as anti-bactericide( and may have had antiviral effect as well) while another ward was TAU(treatment as usual- meaning ordinary air) The PG ward residents had fewer respiratory illnesses during time of experiment.
That said, PG vapor, and PG in general was found to cause liver failure in cats(Heinz-something or other-Syndrome, no it wasn't the ketchup!) and was incrediblt difficult to treat even when caught early. Google "Heinz syndrome cats" and you should find it.
I first bought PG which I now vape outside and driving and just received an order of VG juice and am checking health concerns for cat.
Keep sharing the data!

 

[span]

According to this (Heinz Body Anemia In Cats), the Heinz syndrome occured in cats eating PG in semi-moist food, not from inhaling it. Also, according to the site, cats are more susceptible then other species, due to reactions in their spleen. Although this is possibly still a concern as occasionally we get juice in our mouths from vaping... I'm not sure if this is research we should be worried about.
Keep fighting the good fight though! The more info we have the better off we'll be.
I've noticed voice loss as well from vaping... been mixing glycerin into my mixes in an attempt to fix it.

 

[JustMeAgain]

Finally, baking soda (not baking powder) is a commonly known base as well, that is easily soluble in water. Has anyone tried using it to increase throat hit? Might be worth a try.

I'm giving this a bump because I'd like to hear the answer to your question, miketr.

Anyone tried baking soda?

 

[nikomoul]

Although this is possibly still a concern as occasionally we get juice in our mouths from vaping... I'm not sure if this is research we should be worried about.
Keep fighting the good fight though! The more info we have the better off we'll be.
I've noticed voice loss as well from vaping... been mixing glycerin into my mixes in an attempt to fix it.

I definitely lose my voice from vaping. I sounded like a frog at first and then could barely talk!