Are 5v PV's better?

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deathmetalmaster

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I have been getting into the e cig world pretty hardcore now. its become a hobby for me as well as a way of satisfying my nicotine craving. however, I am wondering if i should upgrade to 5v. I have heard good things about the joker and the GLV. What are the benefits of getting a 5v versus an ego model? Any and all differences would be appreciated as i know nothing about these 5v models. can you get them with standalone batteries or do they all take rechargeable? do they hit better? you know what im sayin? im a noob when it comes to this stuff, so any info would be appreciated. thanks
 

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More wattage = more heat. Generally this means that you get more vapor and a bigger hit. However, it can also change the flavor of the juice so it's not always better. I prefer a true 3.7 volt model and if I need or want a bigger hit I use a LR atty or carto. This does the same thing the coil just gets hotter. One way to try it out cheaply is with a 5 volt Passthrough. This is a cheap way to see if you will like it and then you also save batteries. As far as I know the only five volt models have replaceable batteries. Trust me this is a good thing. You get batteries that last longer and are cheaper to replace. Plus with them you can use a LR atty without fear. Many people have reported damaging the switch in the eGo or eGo clones with a LR atty. Although it seems some people have luck with them. I like five volts for some juices and it does give a bigger hit. However, as I said you can get the same effect with LR atties or Cartos so it's really not as relevant anymore. another cheap way to find out if you like it is with a box mod you can build one yourself for very little money and they are really fairly easy. I would start with a simple kit for a true 3.7 and add LR cartomizers. This is a great combo, it's easy to make and works great.

Happy vaping

Ps you will also burn through juice and atties faster with 5 volts.
 

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Brad is absolutely correct. There are other factors to consider also. In order to get 5v or more, you have to use 2 batteries in a stacked configuration. Stacked batteries discharge unevenly, one will discharge faster than the other. Some of these batteries, LiFePO4 and IMR, do not have protection circuitry built in to monitor and shut off when the battery is discharged too much. You will have to monitor this yourself with these batteries or they will be damaged. Also the mAh of these smaller batteries are lower than the standard eGo batteries, so a pair not last as long as an eGo on a charge. Seeing that many are using 5v and higher mods, this must be worth it to many. I prefer a large battery mod, 18650 or 17670, with a LR atty; good vapor, long battery life, no stacking issues.
 
the main thing i like about mods
1.) batteries are a lot faster to charge
2.) batteries are crazy cheap, two 14500s = 5-6 bucks (for the set, via china, trustfire) vs a single ego ranging in at 20ish range.
3.) i can set my voltage, (i say i can because i use a vv chip)
4.) battery life!
5.) the look of it (this can go either way)

down side
1.) durability - some just are built like the junk they are
2.) size - check out some mod videos, i have seem some huge mods
 

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5 Volt PV's such as the GLV2 gives you:

1. better throat hit
2. more consistency
3. much less expensive batteries (mine cost $3.50)
4. batteries that can be recharged on average 2000 times vs the stock 3.7v batteries that have a 200 recharge life
5. batteries that are not proprietary so you can buy them many different places.
6. doesn't look like a analog so no one thinks you are smoking or are still a smoker
7. typical time on a charge is 7-10 hours
8. you can even use non-rechargible batteries in an emergency with many 5 volt mods. They last about 10 hours.

I don't agree that a LR atty on a 3.7v PV or a passthrough accurately simulates a good 5 volt mod. I have tried both and both are lacking in throat hit and consistency. Not that these options are bad, but not as good or the same as a good 5 volt mod. Plus I would not want to be locked in to LR attys, either. I think there is a reason why so many PV vets use 5 volt and VV PV's.
 
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there isn't a single cell 5v battery.
This is correct. NIMH batteries are inherently inferior to li-ion and LiPo batteries, and these 5V packs (4 1.2V cells for a total of 4.8V) should probably be avoided.

For me, 5V is a must. Even with LR attys, I am no longer satisfied with 3.7V devices. I still have a bartleby with a LR atty as an emergency backup, but if given a choice, I will only vape 5V.
 

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I have a 5v GLV2 and you cant pry it out of my hand.Ive tried alot of 3.7-6v mods and didnt care for them at all.Always to hot or to cold.Like the 3 bears,5v is just right!!LOL.

That's been my problem in the past! Even the Big KaZoo at 5v felt too cool at times. Maybe I will get a 5v GLV after all. Is it warm vapor, Keyzgirl? That's all I'm looking for - via LR atty or voltage - warm vapor and a nice hit. Right now I'm vaping at 6 volts with a carto and it is perfection. However, were I to try a fruit flavor at this voltage it'd taste cooked. Higher voltages are good for caramel-y, waffle, pancake, toffee kinda flavors, tobacco and menthol, imo. All the rest do nicely on HV or LR attys.
 

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Thanks for all the responses peeps. I think I'm going to get a glv 2 after christmas. Any recommendations on atties I should use? I have just been ordering 510 atties from vapor kings for my ego and they work pretty damn good, although I'm pretty sure I need better atties for 5v. Once again, any recommendations would be nice. Thanks a lot everybody
 

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Look at this ohmslawcalculator.com

what is the point of HV
HV+HR atty=X
3.7v + LR = X

what is the difference ,you are at the same watts.

I think that it's the surface area of the heating coil. The resistance is calculated by a certain length of nicrome wire. To up the resistance you use a longer piece and when coiled up, you have more surface area which heats more evenly??? Anyways, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! lol. :vapor:
 

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Thanks for all the responses peeps. I think I'm going to get a glv 2 after christmas. Any recommendations on atties I should use? I have just been ordering 510 atties from vapor kings for my ego and they work pretty damn good, although I'm pretty sure I need better atties for 5v. Once again, any recommendations would be nice. Thanks a lot everybody

I like the 801/BE112 atty on my 5 volt PV's. Bigger bridge, bigger coil. If you use carts, holds more liquid. They have a 3.0 resistence instead of the 2.5 resistence of a 510. I like that they are not quite as "hot" as a 510 but still provide good throat hit and warm vapor. It's probably just a personal preferrence thing either way.
 

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Look at this ohmslawcalculator.com

what is the point of HV
HV+HR atty=X
3.7v + LR = X

what is the difference ,you are at the same watts.

I can't explain it "electrically" but to me, LR at 3.7v just does not provide the throat hit or the warm vapor that a true 5 volt PV does. Plus from my experience, the LR attys just don't hold up as well. And I would not want to have to go back to buying expensive, proprietary batteries ever again.
 
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