are cities being paid to ban? (x steveVape)

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wv2win

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Big Pharm is instructing and giving incentitives to the local chapers of their "mouth pieces", Amercian Lung Association, American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, etc to contact their local governments to instutitue bans and restrictions. It's all so sick when you really understand it. Zealots conbined with big corporate money.
 

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I thought this thread would get more notice than it is.

This is the first time I've logged onto the forum since your OP, but it's certainly getting MY attention! This is a tactic I hadn't really taken notice of. Yes, of course I know the millions being spent by the ANTZ/PANTZ to promote draconian anti-ecig ordinances, but to bribe cities into enacting these ordinances....?

Actually, I shouldn't be surprised. Nothing, it seems, is beyond these people.... My contempt and disgust have reached new stratospheric levels...

Discussion at a Nov. 4 council meeting revealed that the TSET encouraged the Cherokee County Communities of Excellence Tobacco Control program to wrap e-cigarettes in with tobacco.

Val Dobbins, chairman of the county program, said TSET [Tobacco Settlement Endowment Trust] sent down “these ordinances and they ask us to propose (them) in the cities,” according to a report in the Tahlequah Daily Press.

“First thing off the bat, in order for us to be certified healthy at the ‘excellent’ level for a city, the first thing they ask us for is to add e-cigarettes, or electronic smoking devices, to our ordinances that have to do with tobacco,” Dobbins said.

At stake is at least $42,000 in prospective grant funding from TSET.

However, that sum may understate the cash incentives for a ban.

John Yeutter, a certified public accountant and an associate professor of accounting at Northeastern State University, told officials the county program’s own online reports identified TSET grants totaling $146,9987 in the fiscal year that ended in June 2012.

“Recent news of the tactics of bureaucrats associated with the Tobacco Settlement Endowment Trust Fund should concern all Oklahomans,” said Jonathan Small, vice president for policy at the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs, the state’s largest free-market and limited-government think tank.

“It’s alarming, their use of taxpayer dollars to influence citizens and local communities into banning safe and effective alternatives to traditional smoking products,” Small said. “Their recent actions demonizing and profiling e-cigarettes are yet more evidence of the need for strict oversight and a complete overhaul of TSET and its activities.
 

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Fascinating stuff, really. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past those antsies! (There is another movie in there, somewhere, about how antsies operate, the power of big government, the dangers of the nanny state, and the plain old ignorance of what can really happen when you are not paying full attention). They are insidious!
 

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For the curious, here's a direct link to their Grant criteria: Tobacco Settlement Endowment Trust - Application

I doubt very much I'll ever receive a reply, or that Ms Befort will bother to read the Drexel study I proffered to her, but it felt good to vent a bit. And hey, maybe if a few of us write we'll annoy her a little -- maybe even get her to ask a superior the crucial question, "Why?"
 

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Nothing really new here. In one way or another BP is pushing their agenda to any government structure were they might be able to get regulation. What is interesting in Okla. is that they're using smokers money through the Master Settlement in an attempt to have those that have abandoned contributing, by vaping, to return to the herd.
 

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For the curious, here's a direct link to their Grant criteria: Tobacco Settlement Endowment Trust - Application

I doubt very much I'll ever receive a reply, or that Ms Befort will bother to read the Drexel study I proffered to her, but it felt good to vent a bit. And hey, maybe if a few of us write we'll annoy her a little -- maybe even get her to ask a superior the crucial question, "Why?"
I for one will try to write one up this week sometime. Maybe I'll include the 100 doctors quotes.. Lots to consider, & I applaud your ambition. I hope many will follow your lead.
 

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Well done, Fulgurant! :)

And yes, this is really disgusting:
Nothing really new here. In one way or another BP is pushing their agenda to any government structure were they might be able to get regulation. What is interesting in Okla. is that they're using smokers money through the Master Settlement in an attempt to have those that have abandoned contributing, by vaping, to return to the herd.

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UPDATE: According to the Times Record News:

Backers of a ban on electronic cigarettes on Tahlequah city property have pulled their request for the city council to consider the measure this week.

The Cherokee County Communities of Excellence Tobacco Control Program asked the council to remove the proposal from Monday's meeting. The controversial measure drew a packed crowd to an earlier council meeting.

Mayor Jason Nichols told the Tahlequah Daily Press (http://......./1io2nFV ) that the issue is tabled for the time being. Nichols said it wasn't clear to residents that the ban would only affect city property, not the entire city. Nichols also said the northeastern Oklahoma town will continue to have discussions on the issue.

"We've removed the item from the agenda at the direction of the people who requested its consideration," Nichols told the newspaper. "I think that they've become aware of the need for more information to be presented and more discussion to be had over that data before any change to the city's regulations (is made)."

Feeling a little heat, were we, Cherokee County Communities of Excellence Tobacco Control Program? Worried at the scrutiny of your bribe... er, financial incentive program were we, Cherokee County Communities of Excellence Tobacco Control Program?
 

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Nothing really new here. In one way or another BP is pushing their agenda to any government structure were they might be able to get regulation. What is interesting in Okla. is that they're using smokers money through the Master Settlement in an attempt to have those that have abandoned contributing, by vaping, to return to the herd.
Doesn't it make sense for a dairy farmer to use some of his income from milk sales to insure that the herd keeps producing?
 
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