are E ciggies safe?

[guppyplec]

I have heard so many conflicting stories about weather its safe or not to inhale the vapour released from a electric cigarette.

I have heard that tests have been found to show that there is chemicals found in the electric ciggie which is present in anti-freeze.
I have always thought that nicotine was completely harmless but very addictive.
I'd rather smoke the electric cigarette as long though as its safe to smoke but there's lack of evidence.
If anybody out there has had any side effects or heard anything posior negative about the effects of vapouring then I'd like to know

 

[ppeeble]

Just waiting for the obligatory list of chemicals found in cigarettes..........
Breathing anything other than air into your lungs is not recommended.
I would love to point you to some links but as a computer idiot i don't know how. I would suggest that you have a look through the thousands of ECF threads to gain a little knowledge though.
Or come back in 20 years and there should be loads of evidence one way or the other.

 

[DoubleEmMartin]

I have heard so many conflicting stories about weather its safe or not to inhale the vapour released from a electric cigarette.

I have heard that tests have been found to show that there is chemicals found in the electric ciggie which is present in anti-freeze.
I have always thought that nicotine was completely harmless but very addictive.
I'd rather smoke the electric cigarette as long though as its safe to smoke but there's lack of evidence.
If anybody out there has had any side effects or heard anything posior negative about the effects of vapouring then I'd like to know

There is tons of information on safety available in the forums, including a whole subforum dedicated to discussing this. You'll find plenty of information there, including links to many studies and medical articles on the topic:

Health and Medical Issues

Long story short, while we are still early in the research process on vaping and safety, everything we do know indicates that vaping is enormously less harmful than cigarettes. While some (important: not all) juices tested were found to contain low levels of harmful chemicals, that just pales in comparison to the thousands of harmful and toxic chemicals in cigarette smoke, including (but not limited to) arsenic, tar, cyanide and carbon monoxide, none of which are found in vaping.

I would never recommend anyone who doesn't smoke to vape, and I look forward to confirmatory studies on the risks and safety of vaping, however as far as I am concerned, the research that exists leaves me absolutely and positively certain that vaping is far less harmful than cigarettes, astronomically so.

My body attests to this -- just over three weeks in, no analogs, and I feel incredible, physically. My cough and phlegm are gone, my sinuses are clear for the first time in 15 years. Do I know for certain that there's zero risk with vaping? No. Do I care? No. I am confident that vaping is less harmful to me than cigarettes, and has allowed me to instantly get off of cigarettes, feel better, look better, smell better, save money and be happier and healthier. Now I can look forward to a long-term plan of nicotine cessation without killing myself every day.

 

[stevegmu]

Safer than smoking. If e-nic kills me half as fast as smoking would, I'm fine with that.

 

[greywolff]

My personal opinion its safer ... Less chemicals than "the leaf" you can get a "hit / buzz" without actually inhaling into your lungs ... and after 3 or so weeks of "being off the leaf" i have noticed the difference on how i feel. as for what the future holds only time will tell

 

[Fyreffect]

It's still a bit early to tell what the long-term effects will be, but you get to avoid inhaling massive amounts of carcinogens and tar so how bad can it really be. I'm almost one month free of smokes and I already feel so much better in the morning, so that's my body telling me "I approve". Research on nicotine is pretty thorough and out there, but the delivery system with e-cigs is nowhere near as bad as the cancer sticks. E-cigs are literally like breathing vapor from a fog machine with a little nic mixed in. Compared to sucking tar all day, I'd say it's a healthier alternative.

 

[Fishtec]

Only four ingredients one is found in asthma inhalers the other is a food additive one is found naturally in tomatoes peppers ect and flavouring juice with anti freeze in it is juice bought from nothing short of criminals mixing cheap dangerous juice for pure profit I know my juice vendors are trust worthy and I pay a little extra for that

 

[BlueMoods]

Oh good grief, the anti freeze thing again. For pete's sake, yes PG, which is in most e cig liquids is an antifreeze FOR POTABLE (Drinking) WATER. It's also used in flavoring extracts normally used in cooking, ice cream, soda pop and countless other things. Not to metion even some inhaled asthma medications.

Nothing is without some downside, nicotine addiction and it being a stimulant is the worst short term with e-cigs and, the long term isn't known yet but, I suspect the worst is still going to be nicotine addiction. Unless you are allergic to PG, relax you've probably eaten plenty of it already.

Here are some foods that have PG in them - it's a multi page list of them.

Foodfacts.com - Find out what's REALLY in your food.

 

[Hulamoon]

Ah, the old antifreeze chestnut eh? That my dear is complete baloney and represents the pathetic best that "loud ignorant people who hate everything that someone else enjoys" cooked up - half baked as usual.

Is it safer than smoking. Uhhhh....hell yes! Is it safer than inhaling a good ol' dose of L.A. pollution? Probably. Is it safer than breathing in fresh air, well that's a silly question.

Many so-called studies are missing one vital component when they dream up the garbage that they do ... there is no "comparative" i.e. "trace amounts of whatever they are chemicals" were found in study A. Compared to what? Smoking a cigarette? Living in LA? Having bad breath? Having normal breath? What? Needless to say, these studies are generally conducted by an unknown bloke in a garden shed in the mountains of somewhere or another and sponsored by Big Tobacco who for a while wanted to scare everyone to death so they would choose the safer alternative - smoking.

That failed, so now BT is claiming that they should be the only ones to provide e-cigarettes and liquid. Why? Because their control mechanisms and concerns for public health and safety are so good. (and if anyone reads that literally, I shall personally hunt you down and lock you in a dungeon).

Then of course we have big Pharma leaping in because they want to control nicotine too, - and for the same reasons.

Government of course doesn't care one way or the other but are doing their bosses bidding....corporations, silly! Anyone who jumped up and said "constituents" can disappear to the back of the class. And the reason they do it so well is because they don't have visions of sugar plums in their dreams like the rest of us mere mortals. They count tax dollar signs to fall asleep with, or to put it in the vernacular, "how to take money out of your pocket and put it in mine".

 

[eratikmind]

While I would never claim that vaping is 100% safe, I know that it's better than sucking on the Nails.

People, whom want 100% safe, simply need to quit smoking cold turkey.

- Andy

 

[Bob Chill]

If I hadn't failed at every other method (cold turkey, patches, gum, lozenges, even wellbutrin) I would probably have some sort of concern but I surely don't now. I read everything on this forum before I decided to give vaping a try. I don't do things without research and all of my research left me pretty much knowing I was taking a safer path.

I don't think it's some sort of perfect utopia. All vices have tradeoffs no matter what. Even if vaping is going to knock some years off my life I'm still good with that because I know the path I was on prior and what the end years are like. I highly doubt I'll need oxygen tanks or failing lungs because of vaping. The really sick part of the smoking path is not only knowing that I'll cost myself some years of life but I'll also cost myself years of quality of life during the end game. The end years of a lifetime of smoking are ghastly.

 

[brandkwame]

Oh good grief, the anti freeze thing again. For pete's sake, yes PG, which is in most e cig liquids is an antifreeze FOR POTABLE (Drinking) WATER. It's also used in flavoring extracts normally used in cooking, ice cream, soda pop and countless other things. Not to metion even some inhaled asthma medications.

Nothing is without some downside, nicotine addiction and it being a stimulant is the worst short term with e-cigs and, the long term isn't known yet but, I suspect the worst is still going to be nicotine addiction. Unless you are allergic to PG, relax you've probably eaten plenty of it already.

Here are some foods that have PG in them - it's a multi page list of them.

Foodfacts.com - Find out what's REALLY in your food.

I actually have never heard of the antifreeze thing until OP brought it up...but thanks for the answer.

Although I am not a scientist, but I do know what cigs contain, and until then, i'd guess to say an ecig is safer

 

[Cajunsteaming]

I have heard so many conflicting stories about weather its safe or not to inhale the vapour released from a electric cigarette.

I have heard that tests have been found to show that there is chemicals found in the electric ciggie which is present in anti-freeze.
I have always thought that nicotine was completely harmless but very addictive.
I'd rather smoke the electric cigarette as long though as its safe to smoke but there's lack of evidence.
If anybody out there has had any side effects or heard anything posior negative about the effects of vapouring then I'd like to know

Might want to watch the Doctors on youtube about ecigs. They ran 4 specials on ecigs and every time thaey are safer than analogs. Nic is a drug no matter where you get it. Just have to be cautious of where you buy your ejuice. I can honestly say that my health has improve alot sense kicking the TAR CARCINOGENIC CHEMICAL filled analogs.

Cajunsteaming Vaping On!!!!!!

 

[BlueMoods]

Exactly Bob, if smoking meant I died 10 years earlier but, didn't have lung issues, any diseases or whatever, I'd still smoke. No guarantee vaping will offer that in another 40 years or so for me but, it has a better chance of that than smoking did.

My doctor gets annoyed with me every time he tells me I shouldn't have this or that and I tell him "Sure add 10 years but, what good are ten years being miserable because I can't have a damned thing I want?"

 

[Cajunsteaming]

I actually have never heard of the antifreeze thing until OP brought it up...but thanks for the answer.

Although I am not a scientist, but I do know what cigs contain, and until then, i'd guess to say an ecig is safer

Yes but it is a lot different type. Anti freeze have other additives in it. PG is food grade safe for smoking.

Cajunsteaming Vaping On!!!!!!

 

[Bob Chill]

Exactly Bob, if smoking meant I died 10 years earlier but, didn't have lung issues, any diseases or whatever, I'd still smoke. No guarantee vaping will offer that in another 40 years or so for me but, it has a better chance of that than smoking did.

My doctor gets annoyed with me every time he tells me I shouldn't have this or that and I tell him "Sure add 10 years but, what good are ten years being miserable because I can't have a damned thing I want?"

Absolutely. I've realized over the last 4-5 years or so (in my mid 40's) that I'm simply in a better mental state when I smoke. It's beyond nicotine addiction. I had that kicked at least 4 times. For whatever reason I'm hardwired for smoking. Every time I took it away I felt off. I felt off to the point that it negatively affected my life. I'm personally 100% willing to take whatever tradeoff there is for my choice to vape. It's probably important for everyone to feel that way or they shouldn't do it. Heck, I was beginning to rationalize that the end game of smoking was worth just giving in and smoking and not caring anymore. That's pretty bad but that's the place I was at just before I started vaping.

 

[tjmax]

Are they bad for your health is a relative question. Nicotine is bad for your health so in that respect yes they are bad for you. are they worse then a cup of coffee? No one knows yet. Are they worse then a cigarette? I would have to say absolutely not. The reports of them being bad for you, are not false they are only the bits of truth they wish to disclose.
They say there are toxic elements from them. Knee jerk reaction ban them fear the unknown.... they keep the whole truth a secrete cause knowledge is power. what are they not saying? You never see them mention the 4000 ish chemicals that are not in them compared to cigs, and the elements they do list are up to 500 times less then cigarettes and could be in the air before they started for all we know.

 

[RosaJ]

I have heard so many conflicting stories about weather its safe or not to inhale the vapour released from a electric cigarette.

I have heard that tests have been found to show that there is chemicals found in the electric ciggie which is present in anti-freeze.
I have always thought that nicotine was completely harmless but very addictive.
I'd rather smoke the electric cigarette as long though as its safe to smoke but there's lack of evidence.
If anybody out there has had any side effects or heard anything posior negative about the effects of vapouring then I'd like to know

It sounds like you've only heard from the naysayers. Visit the CASAA website, there's a slew of studies that have been conducted so far by independent scientists. I don't rely on the court of public opinion when it comes to things dealing with my health.

Can anyone guarantee that it is totally safe? No more than you can ask a doctor to testify in a court of law against tobacco companies saying that all your health issues are a result of smoking cigarettes. All they're willing to say is that it may be a result of smoking cigarettes.

 

[brucebrown52]

I am in my 3rd month of vapping and I puff on it all the time just like I smoked my cigs for 38 years. I have no idea if there safe or not but I do know I feel so much better, breath a lot easier, don't have that terrible smell emanating from me and everything I come in contact with. I also have about $225 more money each month to live on and my kids have never been happier about there dad. I could care less about whether it's bad or not cause there is no doubt it's better then the alternative and my quality of life is so much better. With that said this is a non issue for me. KEEP ON VAPING AMERICA!!!

 

[III BIRDMAN III]

Here would be a more logical question.
Is blowing these huge plumes of vapor
as safe as your typical cig a like vapor.

Agh Ha!!!
Elaborate while I fog up this Thread