Are E-cigs bad for you?

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Just vape 100% Organic E-Liquid, then you don't get any chemicals... End of story :)
Organic stuff has plenty of chemicals, and those haven't been tested for inhalation either.
For example, an orange has citric acid, chemical name 2-hydroxy-1,2,3-propanetricarboxylic acid.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if organic flavors have more chemicals than manufactured ones.
How many different chemicals do you think make up an orange?
 

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Vaperite has it, he details it a little on the site

Vaporite says they are extracting organic tobacco flavor by seeping tobacco leaves in pg for three days. Just my opinion but if dealers are extracting flavors from tobacco or other herbs themselves this is a disaster waiting to happen. I wouldn't touch any of this stuff.
 

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Vaporite says they are extracting organic tobacco flavor by seeping tobacco leaves in pg for three days. Just my opinion but if dealers are extracting flavors from tobacco or other herbs themselves this is a disaster waiting to happen. I wouldn't touch any of this stuff.

What makes you say that?
 

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What makes you say that?

Don't what chemicals are being extracted. Tobacco and herbs are chemical factories. That's not an exaggeration.
What concentrations are they being extracted ?. Not just nicotine but all of the other poisons known and unknown.
How they might react together? Once in solution chemicals can change or react with each other and produce something worse or better.

Like I said it's just an opinion. Not having done any research I couldn't even begin to guess what I would be putting into my lungs.
 

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I might be crazy but I think this is how most of the nicotine/tobacco flavors are produced... I know backwoods brew extracts from leaves, not sure how, but essentially all nicotine is extracted from the leaves, you are just saying that soaking it in the pg may be bad? Hmmm I wish we had some juice makers that could respond here. I wonder how they test to see how much nicotine is actually extracted anyways
 

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Dob, When I buy PG with nicotine the nicotine is very close to 100% purity regardless of how it is produced. If extracting with PG from tobacco you will also get every chemical in the plant that is soluble in PG. Don't let the label organic fool you it doesn't mean safe.

I don't smoke tobacco flavors so I never looked into how they are made. The ones that flavoring companies sell must at least meet FDA guidelines for human consumption.

Do you where herb juice or flavors come from? I am just as concerned about things from herbs but don't know if anyone is doing their own extracting.

Vaporize states "I use USP Food grade PG & VG in all the juices I make." He can no longer say that his flavors are USP So what else is he doing? How do I know the safety of his other flavors? Personally I wouldn't buy any juice from this company.
 

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This makes me think of another question with the organic flavorings; if vendor is offering house extracted tobacco flavor by soaking tobacco leaves to extract flavors, how is he offering these blends with no nicotene? I am not sure how you would control or know the amount of nic that would be extracted along with the flavors. There are varying nic levels offered. May need to email vendor on that unless someone knows.
 

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This makes me think of another question with the organic flavorings; if vendor is offering house extracted tobacco flavor by soaking tobacco leaves to extract flavors, how is he offering these blends with no nicotene? I am not sure how you would control or know the amount of nic that would be extracted along with the flavors. There are varying nic levels offered. May need to email vendor on that unless someone knows.

I bought it through awesomevapor.com, he says a 0mg nicotine is not possible since its extracted. I dont think its too far off to do organic juice? Buy organic flavorings, thats pretty easy.
 

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"I know backwoods brew extracts from leaves"

Does Backwoods Brew say they extract their own tobacco flavors? I can't find it on their website.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...iews/123283-backwoods-brew-hunters-blend.html

LastTango states in this thread that BWB does for a few of his tobaccos though he doesn't say which ones. This poster offers a lot of reviews and seems to be in personal contact w/vendors so I would think he wouldn't have posted this if not correct. Vaperite has it on their site, Tasty Vapor only offers one tobacco and they specifically state it is extracted. Also FSUSA "may" offer an extracted tobacco on their house blend. Not sure, so this is a maybe.
 

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I bought it through awesomevapor.com, he says a 0mg nicotine is not possible since its extracted. I dont think its too far off to do organic juice? Buy organic flavorings, thats pretty easy.

Thanks Dob, makes sense. Vaperite states no nic as an option for their extracted so I will need to ask how they determine this. I don't have a problem with low nic and what I got from Vaperite in past is A+ but it still warrants this question. Certainly for others who want no nic at all as advertised.
 

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LastTango states in this thread that BWB does for a few of his tobaccos though he doesn't say which ones. This poster offers a lot of reviews and seems to be in personal contact w/vendors so I would think he wouldn't have posted this if not correct. Vaperite has it on their site, Tasty Vapor only offers one tobacco and they specifically state it is extracted. Also FSUSA "may" offer an extracted tobacco on their house blend. Not sure, so this is a maybe.

I remember reading it on the backwoods brew website, its off now. I really love extracted tobaccco flavors.
 

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In regards to the tobacco extraction, it says on vaperite.com that the tobacco itself is organic.
Now that actually makes some sense to me.

At least if the tobacco is organic, then you SHOULD only get the chemicals that are in the tobacco.
And hopefully, none of the chemicals that are in various pesticides and/or additives.

Or whatever else may be in and/or on the tobacco that is used for extraction by other folks.
:shrug:
 
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