Are you a retired Genisis user?

[Lessifer]

yeah, I wasn't trying to say the rocket is as good as either the kfl or r91, just that it's a very cheap way to see if that style is good for you or not.

As for changing the wicks... I'm using cotton in mine and when I was running an NET, the coil needed a dry burn every few days, you just have to vape it try first or be willing to dump some juice. Now with a less gunky juice I can go a week or more without changing wicks.
When you do change it, it's just:
Remove whole outer section(can be removed all at once)
Remove inner chamber
change wick
put back together

 

[donnah]

It only takes me a few minutes...yes, I have to take it apart but that takes maybe 30 seconds. If I have juice in the tank, I take the top cap off and pour what's left back in the bottle.
Then I take the whole thing, along with the pv to the sink..
take the tank off,
take the chimney and chamber off (rinsing as I go)
then I slide the old wick out and give the coil a dry burn.
Then I take it off the pv and rinse it.
I've placed everything on a paper towel.. I gather it up and go back to my desk...
I tear off a strip of cotton.. roll it.. slide it through the coil.. trim the ends.. put the chamber on..
tuck the wick tails down into the chamber (making sure they are on top of the juice inlets)
I drip maybe 8 drops down in the chamber to get the wick saturated..
screw the chimney on...
screw the tank on..
cover the air hole.. pour juice in the tank.. start threading the top cap on.. as soon as it catches I turn it upside down and wait for the air bubble to rise... take my finger off the air hole and finish screwing the cap on. Done.

I do this every night because the juice I use gunks my coils up pretty fast and I like the flavor of a fresh cleaned coil. If I used a carto tank, I'd probably have to change cartos in the tank every day and that would be more of a hassle to me, especially price wise!

Doing this may be a big deal to some but it's not to me, especially since coils last a long time and cotton is practically free. The vape quality is worth it plus I can just throw it down on the bed or anywhere and not worry having to keep it upright. This is why it's worth it to me. You may not have to change your wick every day... you might do it once a week or maybe two weeks depending on your juice. I can tell when my coil starts to get gunky. I have a peach mix that doesn't gunk up and I don't have to change the coil near as often but I don't vape it near as much either.

You said you may sell a provari... one of the major reasons I switched to the kayfuns was, with a genesis, the vape wasn't good to me unless the coil was .8Ω and I had to use it on a mech. I wanted to be able to use my provaris. They kayfun works great on a provari. I still use it on a mech sometimes but now I can enjoy the regulated voltage of my provaris again.

Just out of curiosity I just rewicked and timed myself. I did all the steps I listed above starting with pouring out any leftover juice and ended with screwing on the top cap after filling. It took my exactly 5 minutes and 4 seconds

 

[WattWick]

It's not bad bad. Remove from mod. Either drain with a syringe or prepare to have liquids pouring out the drip tip. Either way is OK. Unscrew base from tank sections. Unscrew the inner tubing from the base, and all of a sudden this Bob guy claims to be your uncle.

Not hard to do or very labor intensive. Just something I don't appreciate doing very often.

 

[gotch23]

I really love those kayfun-style atties...
got the Squape, a Taifun GT... a Kayfun light plus on the way.
I totally second what donnah said about the ease of rebuilding
these when run with microcoils and cotton. Pull the wick leaving
the coil intact, dryburn, rinse, dryburn, insert new wick. 2-3 mins.

Will it retire my DID? No... I am vaping it as i type this.
I don't think the Kayfun-style atties are a better vape than the gennies...
on par i would say, but different. The same juice has distinctly different flavor
profile on both these systems. Each enjoyable for its own qualities.

So i keep running my DID with steel-mesh. However i won't be buying
any more gennies any time soon. As much as i like the vape, as much i do dislike
the fiddling and positioning.

 

[emus]

I threw a $4.89 M6 RDA in my cart for giggles.
It's quality is very low so I don't recommend it.
Imagine my surprise when the M6 vape quality exceeded my 5 Genesis style RTAs.
I think the small diameter and air flow up through deck's center directly under single coil may be the reason.

Still love the RTAs too. I've built several types of wicks. I'm on the cotton ball twisted kanthal micro coil kick now.

 

[vapspaz]

I am so friggin weak!!!

It looks like I'm gonna have to run out and buy a pair of steel mesh underwear to help deflect the blow from the rusty gaff hook.




Wifey: Ummmm honey, what is this package that arrived today?

Spaz: Ummmm... Errrr.... Aaa.... It's a surprise Christmas gift for you honey!

Wifey: Oh! It is!!! Oh how sweat honey. Can I open it up now?

Spaz: Ummm... Nope. You have to wait for Christmas dear.

Wifey: Oh Ok then. Just make sure I don't see you running around with another damn PV.

Spaz: Of course not, why would you say such a thing honey?

Wifey: Because MY Christmas package is from a company named Vaporev dear.

Spaz: Son of mother #$%@! B!%*#.





Yup. I caved in and just snagged the new KFL+. Vape mail will soon be on da way! If y'all don't hear from me, you'll know really bad things involving rusty gaff hooks had happened.

 

[emus]

I'm tempted to order a KFL or russian 91.
I'd prefer a kayfun extra lite or russian 70%; 15ish mm.

 

[Jimi D.]

I am so friggin weak!!!

It looks like I'm gonna have to run out and buy a pair of steel mesh underwear to help deflect the blow from the rusty gaff hook.




Wifey: Ummmm honey, what is this package that arrived today?

Spaz: Ummmm... Errrr.... Aaa.... It's a surprise Christmas gift for you honey!

Wifey: Oh! It is!!! Oh how sweat honey. Can I open it up now?

Spaz: Ummm... Nope. You have to wait for Christmas dear.

Wifey: Oh Ok then. Just make sure I don't see you running around with another damn PV.

Spaz: Of course not, why would you say such a thing honey?

Wifey: Because MY Christmas package is from a company named Vaporev dear.

Spaz: Son of mother #$%@! B!%*#.





Yup. I caved in and just snagged the new KFL+. Vape mail will soon be on da way! If y'all don't hear from me, you'll know really bad things involving rusty gaff hooks had happened.

LMAO !!! That's hilarious !

 

[puchox]

I'm tempted to order a KFL or russian 91.
I'd prefer a kayfun extra lite or russian 70%; 15ish mm.

Qorax recommended this kit on the kayfun thread.

Accessories :: Kayfun Nano Body Kit -

I ordered one a few days ago, we'll see how it goes

 

[Cjax]

I was never a Geni user, but I was a hardcore dripper. Had a Reo w/ A7 as my goto mod of choice for a while. I was very happy with it, but wanted something more. I like atties that have a bottom air feed (as opposed to a side air hole) and there aren't many options for drippers that fit into a Reo that are better than the A7 IMO. Then I picked up my Fogger (V1).

It was a major pain to get it up and running, took me about a week of trial and error and cussing and modding, but once it was working right I haven't used anything else since. That is, until my Russian 91 arrived. Again, took me a couple days to get it right, but since the I've been in vaping bliss with these 2 tanks. I have a v3 on the way, and my A7 has been relegated to nothing more than a flavor tester,

 

[emus]

Qorax recommended this kit on the kayfun thread.

Accessories :: Kayfun Nano Body Kit -

I ordered one a few days ago, we'll see how it goes

Hmmm...so there is a kayfun nano and a kayfun mini. I really want a KF mini. My second choice is the nano. Just need to find a lil spare cash and I'll be set.

 

[emus]

I was never a Geni user, but I was a hardcore dripper. Had a Reo w/ A7 as my goto mod of choice for a while. I was very happy with it, but wanted something more. I like atties that have a bottom air feed (as opposed to a side air hole) and there aren't many options for drippers that fit into a Reo that are better than the A7 IMO. Then I picked up my Fogger (V1).

It was a major pain to get it up and running, took me about a week of trial and error and cussing and modding, but once it was working right I haven't used anything else since. That is, until my Russian 91 arrived. Again, took me a couple days to get it right, but since the I've been in vaping bliss with these 2 tanks. I have a v3 on the way, and my A7 has been relegated to nothing more than a flavor tester,

My new gold standard is the $4.89 M6 RDA; problem is it looks like $2 junk. Looks like it is an A7 clone. There are many A7 RDAs on the market. Does anyone know who has a quality A7? Or other 15ish mm bottom center air feed RBA?

I was perfectly content vaping CE2 for 2 years; cost per day was near nil.
Believe it or not CE2 has some subtle advantages.
My CE2 became obsolete so I was thrust into RBA; cost per day is adding up due to heavy juice consumption.

 

[Vego]

I have to admit, since I got my kfl, both my RSST and AGA T2 have taken a hiatus. This thread inspired me to re-visit the geny. Got a 1.4ohm coil on the kfl with figure 8 eckowool. Got a 1ohm coil on my RSST with ss rope wick and a little mesh at the coil. Running them side by side with some Gorilla juice from the same bottle - both around 12watts, the vape is nearly indisinguishable. If anything, the geny/ss has just the slightest edge in flavor (and I mean slight), where the banana seems to come through just a tad more... but I really have to focus hard to detect the difference. It's really just the difference in wick type. I've never found anything to beat ss in the flavor department, but that's just me. Eko comes closest, and while I have no problem using it, it just can't edge out the ss. I guess it's a testiment to the quality design of the kfl to allow a vape with eko-silica to compare right up there with ss.

Bottom line: All these attys have great performance and can live happily together in my rotation. I see no need to use any particular one in pre-dominance over the others. I'll use the kfl with Gorilla Juice, the RSST with Bobas, and have the AGA for whatever other juice I'm getting into at the moment. The Igo L will also stay in rotation because it rocks too. All bases covered.

Thanks to this thread, and inspiring me to get off my lazy ___ to compare the geny with the kfl, I realize there's no reason at all to shelf the genys.

 

[vapspaz]

Yeah, I don't think I can ever give up my little D14's. I like small set-ups like my mini Provari with the D14's. I'm a little worried about the size of these Kayfuns. I might have to break down and get a nice 18350 mech mod like the Paps SS V2.5 or maybe a Poldiac to put it on. We shall see soon I guess. I hate the vape mail waiting game. LOL

 

[emus]

The 20ish mm top heavy genny style RTAs can produce quality vapor but they are juice and batt hogs. They make 18350 use challenging especially if you like warm vapor. The sony 10 amp 18650 shines down to at least 0.7 amp in my experience.

I plan to purchase more efficient and lighter RBAs in the future. I believe coil positioned in direct air flow path is more efficient; like A7, KFL, etc. Small diameter and small air chamber units seem more efficient too.

 

[WattWick]

What is this "18350" you are talking about? Is that some remnant from the pre-Pisces era?

(Not to be taken too seriously. I still use'em)

 

[EDO]

I agree word for word.....can't add anything.

I have stopped using mesh in my genesis attys but not the attys themselves. I now use micro coils and cotton in my dids. I find it much easier to set up and maintain. I have a couple kayfun lites and love them. I'll never roll and wrap a mesh wick again.

Micros and cotton in a genesis is much less positional and much less prone to leaking. I get just as much vapor and flavor if not more.

Good thread topic!

 

[vapspaz]

What is this "18350" you are talking about? Is that some remnant from the pre-Pisces era?

(Not to be taken too seriously. I still use'em)

LOL What can I say. I'm an old man stuck in my ways.

Actually I can't stand the looks of telescopic mods. I much prefer a very clean and compact mod design regardless of batt life. I don't mind popping those little 18350's in and out of my Provari every 3-4 hours. I have a Full sized 18650 Provari that is only used around the house cause I don't want to skeer people.

I mean look at this little thing! Doesn't it just make your mouth drool.

Yup, I'm in deep dodo with the wife. Everytime I look at pics of this set-up I get one step closer to jumping on one.
Now that I have the KFL+ I'm half way there!

 

[ScandaLeX]

so r u saying u can build a micro coil cotton wick setup in something like a rsst? where would i find a video on how to do it? i have a reo to and the micro build works better than anything else i've ever had. just cant see it setup in a gen.

You sure can- I do it all the time.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Excellent feed back folks. Thank you!

Watt - You mentioned some very good points that I hadn't even thought about. I don't mind replacing a cotton wick (if I went that direction) every few days as long as it's a quick easy process. But from the sounds of it, these might be to much of a pain to deal with if you have to rip them completey apart just to change out the wick material. I gotta research this a little more cause that alone might persuade me from going down this road.



Thanks for all the feedback folks! Keep it coming and I appreciate it.

You don't have to break the whole thing back down. Take old cotton out, dry burn, replace cotton, vape.