Today is a great day. My wife just punched her first carto and filled her first tank. No leaks or spills. After a modicum of training she is now an independent vaporer. I feel so un-needed. Remember I love you Seraphina.
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I wouldn't say that I'm an independent vaporer yet. Remember, I don't like recipe's with more than 8 ingredients in the kitchen. This has so many steps to start a new flavor, it's just so time consuming. I'll let you punch my carto's any day! ;-)
I can't stand vaping with anything but a TT now. It's like trying to drink a fine wine out of a plastic cup. The Trippy Tip just enhances the vaping experience greatly in my opinion!
Hopefully her Provari will be here soon but sharing between vapes isn't too bad.
Blue I wish I had some one to fill my tank too (gas tank that is)
. LOL if ya read the above post you'd see I'm not so good at it.
willow - I found out the hard way (and it took about 5 times) that if I leave the car in "Aux" so DD can listen to the radio while I pump the gas, it will shoot right back out at ya.
I am not the one to ask ....
I am not the one to ask ....
Congrats, Bill, that's a big anniversary. So odd, too, how easily it came. For me, anyway. I had my two year January 7th of this year and I still don't totally believe it.
Good luck tonight, all. My only hope is if the sale is at 11:00 PM or later EST. But I always look forward to seeing who got what even when I don't get any....
Good luck tonight, all. My only hope is if the sale is at 11:00 PM or later EST. But I always look forward to seeing who got what even when I don't get any....
Hey guys - this was in another of my threads, and I know with all the talk about "safe PVs" and all, I thought it was really interesting. I have some DC cartos, and never thought about it .... and I think I fried an eGo with one ....
Bert - if you don't want it here, let me know and I can take it back out ....
Quote from zen.
" NEVER EVER EVER will I make a dual coil version...
Dual Coils are DANGEROUS beyond all belief, and even DC cartos a disaster waiting to happen.
I feel this is one area of safety has has not been adequately addressed, and in many ways I believe it may be the root cause of the increasing number of battery explosion accidents.
I have seen posts about Battery Safety and Tube Mod safety, but a large contributing factor which will rapidly compound the issue is "Load" safety.
A Little history which helps to demonstrate my point:
A little over 15 months ago, the introduction ofLow Resistance cartomizers and atomizers occurred, and with that introduction, eCigs became a LOT less safe. Suddenly the old reliable eGos and 510s started experiencing failures that were not common before the intoduction of lower resistance loads... the PVs failed because the load was too great, causing the circuitry in these PVs to fail. These failures protected the users, in many cases, against their will.
The reason for the failure is because the Load Resistance dictates how much current will be delivered to atomizer/cartomizer.
This has driven many eCig users away from electronic and regulated eCigs into the realm of mechanical Mods with batteries that will deliver the current needed to utilize these lower resistance loads. As we all know, a single battery PV with an LR load is relatively safe, but the quest for higher performance has led us down a path into areas that are far more disconcerting.
A little less than a year ago, Dual Coil cartomizers appeared on the scene and with them, an entirely new series of safety issues. These loads not ONLY have a low resistance, but they have the capacity to sink a HUGE amount of current into them without failing. This is because each coil of the load has the capacity to handle DOUBLE the voltage, or more, than a single coil of the same aggregate resistance. In other words, a 1.5 Ohm single coil carto handles far less power than a 1.5 Ohm Dual coil, due to the dual coil have TWO 3 Ohm coils in parallel....
To a battery with a low current delivery capability, A Dual Coil Carto represents a HOSTILE load, attempting to pull far more current from the battery thanitcan safely deliver.
These new cartomizers have taken the vaping community by a storm. Suddenly, the Good Old Standard, the ProVari is sending error messages to it's users, and they have demanded a Higher Current delivery version... The PV is PROTECTING itself from this hostile load, and the end users are saying "NO WAY... I need more current"
This has driven even MORE members of the vaping community to the realm of mechanical PVs, but now with stacked batteries because these Cartomizers perform better at these higher voltages...
And the most likely battery to stack in a metal tube designed for an 18650?
Yep... the readilly available, and potentially lethal 16340 (Aka CR123a). Unfortunately there are a variety of Low C versions of these batteries on the market at bargain basement prices.
BOOM
I believe that we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with this issue, and the warnings issued thatI have seen have fail to mention that a battery, in all likelihood WILL NOT fail unless there is a load attached to it, and the size of that load can really matter.
I believe that the proliferation of Dual coil, and now Triple coil cartos is the tipping point that is going to set off an epidemic of these devastating failures.As the size of the load increases, the danger increases exponentially! The same is true for dual coils in a Genesis Atty
It's true that cheap batteries stacked in an unvented PV is a recipe for disaster... but the risk increases by a huge margin once the hostile load of a dual coil load is introduced to the equation.
It's true that single cell and High C batteries are much safer... but the introduction of a second coil is flirting with disaster"
Makes a lot of sense
Bert - if you don't want it here, let me know and I can take it back out ....
Quote from zen.
" NEVER EVER EVER will I make a dual coil version...
Dual Coils are DANGEROUS beyond all belief, and even DC cartos a disaster waiting to happen.
I feel this is one area of safety has has not been adequately addressed, and in many ways I believe it may be the root cause of the increasing number of battery explosion accidents.
I have seen posts about Battery Safety and Tube Mod safety, but a large contributing factor which will rapidly compound the issue is "Load" safety.
A Little history which helps to demonstrate my point:
A little over 15 months ago, the introduction ofLow Resistance cartomizers and atomizers occurred, and with that introduction, eCigs became a LOT less safe. Suddenly the old reliable eGos and 510s started experiencing failures that were not common before the intoduction of lower resistance loads... the PVs failed because the load was too great, causing the circuitry in these PVs to fail. These failures protected the users, in many cases, against their will.
The reason for the failure is because the Load Resistance dictates how much current will be delivered to atomizer/cartomizer.
This has driven many eCig users away from electronic and regulated eCigs into the realm of mechanical Mods with batteries that will deliver the current needed to utilize these lower resistance loads. As we all know, a single battery PV with an LR load is relatively safe, but the quest for higher performance has led us down a path into areas that are far more disconcerting.
A little less than a year ago, Dual Coil cartomizers appeared on the scene and with them, an entirely new series of safety issues. These loads not ONLY have a low resistance, but they have the capacity to sink a HUGE amount of current into them without failing. This is because each coil of the load has the capacity to handle DOUBLE the voltage, or more, than a single coil of the same aggregate resistance. In other words, a 1.5 Ohm single coil carto handles far less power than a 1.5 Ohm Dual coil, due to the dual coil have TWO 3 Ohm coils in parallel....
To a battery with a low current delivery capability, A Dual Coil Carto represents a HOSTILE load, attempting to pull far more current from the battery thanitcan safely deliver.
These new cartomizers have taken the vaping community by a storm. Suddenly, the Good Old Standard, the ProVari is sending error messages to it's users, and they have demanded a Higher Current delivery version... The PV is PROTECTING itself from this hostile load, and the end users are saying "NO WAY... I need more current"
This has driven even MORE members of the vaping community to the realm of mechanical PVs, but now with stacked batteries because these Cartomizers perform better at these higher voltages...
And the most likely battery to stack in a metal tube designed for an 18650?
Yep... the readilly available, and potentially lethal 16340 (Aka CR123a). Unfortunately there are a variety of Low C versions of these batteries on the market at bargain basement prices.
BOOM
I believe that we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with this issue, and the warnings issued thatI have seen have fail to mention that a battery, in all likelihood WILL NOT fail unless there is a load attached to it, and the size of that load can really matter.
I believe that the proliferation of Dual coil, and now Triple coil cartos is the tipping point that is going to set off an epidemic of these devastating failures.As the size of the load increases, the danger increases exponentially! The same is true for dual coils in a Genesis Atty
It's true that cheap batteries stacked in an unvented PV is a recipe for disaster... but the risk increases by a huge margin once the hostile load of a dual coil load is introduced to the equation.
It's true that single cell and High C batteries are much safer... but the introduction of a second coil is flirting with disaster"
Makes a lot of sense
That's a beauty Sashwa!I think this is the one I scored last night:
I was trying for the frit one but some lucky Tripster grabbed it out of my basket at paypal.
I'm off to my grandson's birthday party. Normally on a Sunday I'd hope for an early sale, but today, fingers crossed, hoping its 8pm EST or after. Have fun all 
Thanks for the reading material, Blu.... In all the rush to say "Stacked Batteries Are Blowing Peoples Faces OFF!" no one bothered to say a thing about the other determining factors involved in these catastrophic failures! Just that we shouldn't use stacked batteries....
And the things is: That we all knew stacking batteries wasn't safe unless we had a completely protected mod, and many still used completely protected batteries even in these completely protected mods, yet they are making a huge fuss now that it's been confirmed a few times among those that aren't using protected.....
Even entirely protected will never be entirely safe! Anyhoo.... I'm just glad someones pointing out that there is another problem with the accessories we are using, I for one had no idea that DC cartomizers are dangerous, however I always knew batteries where!
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Odi - I have gone to single coil for longer battery life, but now I have another reason to be glad I did.
Oh, all the ones you got are single coil! LOL
Oh, all the ones you got are single coil! LOL
Darn it, I like playing with danger! Makes me feel alive! DC all the way, baby
Edit: Just kidding, but I don't plan to stop using stacked batteries or DC cartomizers any time soon
Fry bacon nude if ya wanna flirt with danger ..... run with scissors ..... make Kami mad .....
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