Article in Winston-Salem paper ( Home of RJR)

[Chimney34]

I live in Winston & don't really know if I like the idea of big tobacco getting mixed up in my ecigs. I have mixed emotions. I understand the $$$ side but I dunno. I remember when I moved here you would see bumper stickers & license plates that said 'tobacco pays my bills' etc... The college I went to here has buildings named after RJR as well as many other things in this city. I just don't feel like if they got involved that it would be in our best interest but in the best interest of their pockets. How long did it take for big tobacco to tell us what was really in my cigarettes...I don't understand how I'm supposed to trust that. Big tobacco is big because they provide a product that kept so many of us hooked for years. That's not guaranteed with ecigs so it makes me wonder...but I guess time will tell.

 

[-iD]

sooo pathetic!!! I started to get angry as I read the end.

somebody said something like, "well we don't even really know whats in those products, and they could be really dangerous".... CIGARETTES KILL YOU, VAPING DOESNT!!!!!!!!!!!! the end.

I'm a big ecig fan, approaching 3 years since my last Camel wide, but statements like this are not helpful. What science do you have to back the second half of your claim? Making it in your impassioned way hurts us, since that is exactly the type of unsubstantiated claim the FDA is rightly trying to prevent.

tap'd on my Google Galaxy Nexus

 

[-iD]

Ugh. Listen to this tool.

Okay, the last part he said is partially true. We don't know what impact they have on health. We do know what is in them. Manufacturers cannot claim they are proven safer, the FDA has sued several to assert that limitation. Liar liar pants on fire for everything but "we don't know the impact on heath".

Really? Your juice comes with a sublisted ingredient statement, from a manufacturer whose business is overseen by a regulatory body with enforcement powers? Who has too much to lose to risk fine/recall/sanction if anything on that ingredient statement is false, substituted, not in the correct order of predominance, or GRAS? My juice has no such label.

We must distinguish between fact and feeling if we are not to help "the enemy" by making claims we can't back up. I buy juice from American vendors that i research here and elsewhere. I choose to believe they are making responsible and researched choices in the ingredients they use, but I have only my faith as an assurance.

Carter's "liver pills"? Cereal that lowers cholesterol? Chinese baby formula that's nutritionally empty? McDonalds buying happy meal toys with lead paint? While it is nice to believe that companies won't intentionally mislead or harm us, it is not safe. Maybe peer pressure is enough to regulate the hobbyist community in ECF, but as it grows, especially in the retail sales where there is NO connection between customer and supplier other than transfer of funds, it is silly to believe that trust is enough to deter malice or mistake.

tap'd on my Google Galaxy Nexus

 

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