Excellent segue. Brava! Although, if I find that tune is stuck in my head for the day, I will not be happy.
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Excellent segue. Brava! Although, if I find that tune is stuck in my head for the day, I will not be happy.
Yes, semiotics is important to me especially regarding the creator of the universe, or rather, for those of us who believe such a thing. When I was a young kid, while it may have been abbreviated in other cultures, you would NEVER see Christmas abbreviated in any way, shape, or form. Through the passing years, I started to see the name of Christ replaced with the iconic X symbol more and more. Now days, the young folks "assume" that it has always been that way. Too many of them, xmas is completely normal as that is all they have ever been brainwashed..errr excuse me, taught about. It's completely obvious to someone of my age that our American culture has intentionally and deliberately "x"ed out the name of Christ. While it may sound like a bit of a conspiracy theory it is also something I have witnessed with my own eyes. Since I am monotheistic and am a believer in Christ, then for myself, I would rather use the full english word of "Christ".....
The term X-mas has increased in popularity as conciseness has increased in importance. The term itself has been in use since the early 1100s and has been used regularly in texts since in the 1800s.
The idea that it is being used to "'x" out Christ is a baseless misconception of the history of the English Language.
As we are on an informal forum the use of X-mas is completely appropriate and not out of line.
However, in a place where conciseness and typing speed are not valued, say a church bulletin, a headline, or in an academic essay, it would inappropriate.
Much like, if I text my friends or use twitter I may use say "K" instead of "okay" "def" instead of "definitely" or "fo sho" instead of "for sure" but I would never use them at work.
The language has continued to adapt and change despite anybody's best efforts. It's life. And it's ridiculous to attempt to be prescriptive as far as the language is concerned.
My issue isn't with your personal preference for any specific term, but rather the audacity it takes to call another person out and attempt to change their personally preferred term.
Especially when it is backed up with misconceived claims about the terms history.
Especially when it is backed up with misconceived claims about the terms history.
And let's NOT even get into the fact that Christmas is just an amalgamation of Christian, secular and pagan holidays ANYWAY.
Happy Holidays.
I'm done.
Sorry for my diatribe. I'll leave ya'll alone now and go back to lurking.
Happy Holidays.
I'm done.
Sorry for my diatribe. I'll leave ya'll alone now and go back to lurking.
IMO, the issue of Christ our savoir in the name Christmas - where we celebrate HIS birth, is not the same and cannot really be compared to "K", or "def". Now, with that said, you all know my stance on the subject have a good day all.
Hate to sound like an a*s (I usually do) but how did I know exactly what you were going to respond with?
Well, let's see, this would mean that for many years I was under some kind of a misconception and that I "imagined" that I never seen xmas displayed all over the place. Nor do I believe in something just because some church organization or religeous leader may have mentioned it. I seriously doubt that..... When you were not even alive yet, I was witnessing the FACT that xmas was never used publicly in this Country. The problem here is not with the English language or with it's evolution. All cultures and languages change and evolve -- duh. The problem is not with the language but rather with secular humanism and with the "excuses" why a culture changes or modifies it's use and therefore it's meaning of a word. But, it's not just with words or languages but with ACTIONS as well.
Why is it that our American society is allowing more risky and vulgar grammar and visuals on TV and radio....yeah, you know, the things that were once banned and outlawed about 20 years ago but are common place today? At the same time all of this "evolution" is happening then we are publicly stripping the word "Christ" out of Christmas, which as already mentioned was frowned upon in this Country when I was younger as it was ALWAYS publicly spelled as Christmas and NOT xmas.
While you and other's may view this evolution as progress, I view it as spiritual ......ation and spiritual corruption. So the REAL problem with our Country and it's evolving language is in spiritual matters and NOT matters of language semantics or any other "excuse" that people want to use to justify their spiritual weakness.
The fact that Christ is being removed from Christmas is NOT a baseless misconception. I have witnessed it with my own eyes and anyone who is my age or older will verify the same thing. Now you may have different thoughts than I do as to why that has occurred but it is not very difficult for me to see why especially when you look at all of the other immoral activities that are now common place that were once rare to see in public and lots of them do not have anything to do with language. Lots of egg headed college professors would have us believe that it is "progression" and that our culture is "advancing" and evolving towards a better end.... I say NONSENSE to that humanistic type of dumb thinking.---- While we may be advancing technologically and have made many discoveries, we as a species are decaying spiritually. And since we are decaying spiritually, our society will kick Christ out of most anything they can, including Christmas. In short, lots of technically/scientifically minded people don't even believe in spirituality. The spiritual realm is nonsense to them and something that probably does not exist (in their mind). With that type of a mindset then it is easy to see why they make up all types of excuses for their secular humanistic activities and thoughts. It's also easy to see why they put so much pride and emphasis on science and technology. They remind me of people living life with extreme tunnel vision as they are missing half of what makes reality real, which is the spiritual realm.
So, getting back to the language topic --- there is no misconception on my part --- I grew up in America that was using Christmas and NOT xmas and I also grew up and watched many once outlawed and what were considered to be immoral activities to become now common place. When you look at the entire landscape as a whole and not just language, then it's easy to see the spiritual causation of such phenomenon. If it was just language that had evolved, then yes, I would have some other thought or theory to explain it but I do not need oodles of clues slapping me upside the head to see what is at the root of many phenomenon. America was once a fairly God fearing Country that was founded on Biblical principles.... Our Country has gotten away from those Godly principles and spiritual things no longer matter as they once did. Because of this fact, it shows itself in things like "xmas" and too many other activities to mention. While xmas may have been used in the past in this Country, it certainly was not common nor was it used much in public like it is now days.
Ah yes.
Christians have the answers for everything. All ills of society are a direct result from our fall from faith. Blah blah blah.
I avoid people like you in real life and see no reason to voluntarily engage with it in my free time.
Congrats, you win.
Christians have the answers for everything. All ills of society are a direct result from our fall from faith. Blah blah blah.
I avoid people like you in real life and see no reason to voluntarily engage with it in my free time.
Congrats, you win.
Godly things like ordering the jewish people to kill all who did not flee before them?
Men women children and even animals. That was Jericho.
Jesus was nice, God was a mean muther.
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For the record, I, in no way, shape or form, was attempting to begin a theological debate.
We all know how you feel about your religion, and we all know I'm not exactly a supporter.
I was simply trying to point out the history of a term, it's basis in religious language, and that it's very rude to attempt to police somebody's language because of your own religious beliefs.
I am not religious and I use both terms interchangeably depending on the locale. Likewise, people tell me Merry Christmas and I do not get offended despite the fact that I don't believe in it, nor do I force people to say Happy Holidays even though I believe it's more inclusive of all religions and belief systems and it is the term I prefer for personal usage.
The point was simply, it's rude to police people's language based off of your beliefs.
We all know how you feel about your religion, and we all know I'm not exactly a supporter.
I was simply trying to point out the history of a term, it's basis in religious language, and that it's very rude to attempt to police somebody's language because of your own religious beliefs.
I am not religious and I use both terms interchangeably depending on the locale. Likewise, people tell me Merry Christmas and I do not get offended despite the fact that I don't believe in it, nor do I force people to say Happy Holidays even though I believe it's more inclusive of all religions and belief systems and it is the term I prefer for personal usage.
The point was simply, it's rude to police people's language based off of your beliefs.
Jesus was a good person. He never advocated killing, or hatred, just forgiveness and love.
Unlike many in his fan club.
Unlike many in his fan club.
I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to make any allusions to xmas before Halloween. That was just wrong of me.
Says who?
I am just over here like wow. I actually used 32 gauge canthal and liked it..... Wrapped around 28 gauge that is.
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I don't think anyone was trying to police anyone. Just my opinion. So, can we change the subject?
Weather is always a good one. It rained today, first time since the beginning of June. Time to break out the english toffee ejuice. Good stuff yea. Especially whilst drinking coffee. yea. Oh yea.
Weather is always a good one. It rained today, first time since the beginning of June. Time to break out the english toffee ejuice. Good stuff yea. Especially whilst drinking coffee. yea. Oh yea.
How is that? I have NEVER told anyone about how I feel about religion. The only thing I have ever said is that I believe in God. I have also explained once to Cromwell what faith is. I am glad you seem to know how I feel about religion because I don't even know how I feel about it.
But, on the other hand it is quite easy to see how you feel about it and that's your view and is totally fine with me. Also, just so you can get this little factoid straight in your head, I do not "police" people about their language or for that matter anything else they may do in life. That's their business. I only made a simple comment to NoFumus that I would rather use the term "Christmas" instead of "xmas"... I hardly consider that to be "policing" ...... I never told her not to use it as I was merely saying I don't like to use xmas....I was merely stating a personal preference of mine is all. She, you, or anyone else can call it whatever you desire as you will certainly fit in with the rest of society for sure.
Like I said, I do not consider it policing people by merely stating a belief and why I feel a certain way. I'm sorry if you feel I was being rude because it certainly was not intended.
It's obvious that you are not religious and like I already pointed out, most people who are scientifically minded are not.... You are quite "typical" in those regards.
Do you ever watch the news much? Well, if you do then you should certainly realize that things are the inverse of the way you are trying to portray them. It is always the Christians and the churches who are having bans placed upon them. Heck, chaplains in the military are no longer allowed to have crosses hanging up in their chapels. Churches all over the place are having bans and laws placed against them. The Christians that I know do not place similar bans against non believers. I would not like hanging around Christians who behaved that way. Most Christians try to be like Christ and as such they are kind and considerate people who do not place restrictions on anyone.
Also, you have to realize there is a vast difference between religion and spirituality. I don't care too much for so-called religious people as many of them are phony and go to church simply for an act. What I am interested in is people who are TRUELY spiritual minded people and not phony's......
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