Aspire Nautilus has a Chromed Brass chimney.

[Atlantisboy]

Aspire have already confirmed the chimney is brass, nothing left for any vendor to confirm as far as the Aspire tanks go.

 

[Katdarling]

Another option would would be to contact the companies that are selling the Nautilus tanks. Both in the US and abroad. They should be willing and able to confirm if in fact the chimney is 100% stainless steel. If they can't stand behind behind the product then I wouldn't buy it.
I have 7 of these tanks between the full size and the minis.
Until now I have been OK with the wicking material used in the BVC Coils.
I have 11-12 boxes of coils.
If Aspire is lying about the chimney then I can no longer trust the tanks, coils, or the company. That's a bunch of cash in the trash.
The silo without the BVC coil is just another tank.
I guess I'll be taking my kayfuns out of retirement and go back to rebuilding.
Looking forward to Provape introducing their new tank.
I need a company that I can rely on.


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Aspire admitted the chimney is plated brass. Their "lie" was advertising it as (all) SS. Most of it IS stainless steel. Lie by omission? I think it might be too early to come to a conclusion on all this.... but I know as much as any of you know.

 

[kkay59]

I think I will try the vodka cleaning. I can put these coils in a shot glass, and fill over the top of them with vodka. That wouldn't be too much trouble. How long should I soak them though, over night? I thought we weren't supposed to dry burn these coils? I have added a few drops of vodka to my Boba's Bounty, to see if it would make the coil last longer. (thinning it)

You might want to consider cleaning them to save money. I've heard a variety of methods of doing it. The most popular seems to be using a clear alcohol (such as vodka) and soaking the coils in it, then allowing the alcohol to evaporate. Give it a dry-burn and it should be good to go. You might want to confirm with someone who has actually done this method, as I personally have not. I've also heard you can basically rinse them under water and then dry-burn the water off (until the crackle/sizzle stops) and you'll end up with a virtually brand-new head.

I've never understood the purpose of rebuilding heads. Seems like a lot more trouble than it's worth, and as a person who used to spend ~16$ per day on cigarettes (2 packs a day in New Jersey), buying a pack of 5 heads every week or two doesn't seem too bad.

All that said, I am gonna hold off on using my Nautilus for the time being, till Aspire quits being so shady (which may never happen).

 

[Katya]

I think I will try the vodka cleaning. I can put these coils in a shot glass, and fill over the top of them with vodka. That wouldn't be too much trouble. How long should I soak them though, over night? I thought we weren't supposed to dry burn these coils? I have added a few drops of vodka to my Boba's Bounty, to see if it would make the coil last longer. (thinning it)

I wonder how much good a vodka soak will do. I don't own any BVC coils (only BDC), but they are really built like cartomizers--there's a lot residue trapped in the filler. And no amount of soaking in anything will dissolve the gunk baked onto the heating coil--the only way to clean the coil is to dry burn it and then rinse off the ash. No idea if that can be done successfully with this build.

Maybe this video will help you figure out what's going on inside the coil:

 

[Katdarling]

I wonder how much good a vodka soak will do. I don't own any BVC coils (only BDC), but they are really built like cartomizers--there's a lot residue trapped in the filler. And no amount of soaking in anything will dissolve the gunk baked onto the heating coil--the only way to clean the coil is to dry burn it and then rinse off the ash. No idea if that can be done successfully with this build.

Maybe this video will help you figure out what's going on inside the coil:

The wodka will loosen up the gunky liquid a bit, but a dry burn is the only way to get the coil back to near new. Check out Youtube as quite a few people have experimented and dry burned the BVCs.

I have not...... yet....... anyone else given it a go? Results?

 

[Atlantisboy]

i just got an email back form Beyond Vape and unfortunately the Chimney in their Silo Tanks are also Chrome Plated Brass UGH!

 

[kkay59]

Thanks for letting us know. That is such a shame. I don't care for companies that do this, but at least they ought to be up front about it, so you will know what you are buying. The customers can be the final decision maker on the products they want, concerning materials used.

 

[bigdancehawk]

That too. First it was the wick (ceramic, fiberglass or not), now we find out that it's not full stainless steel. Don't know what will come up next. Is the Pyrex really a Pyrex???

Companies know exactly what they are doing. It was their choice to use chrome brass and say that is stainless steel. Thankfully for the users someone found out what really happens.

It almost certainly is not Pyrex. Pyrex is a trademarked name brand. In order to legally call a product "Pyrex," you must obtain a license from the owner of the trademark. The Chinese don't care about or enforce such things. They routinely steal trademarks, trade names, patents, copyrighted material and all other manner of intellectual property.

 

[Racehorse]

It almost certainly is not Pyrex. Pyrex is a trademarked name brand. In order to legally call a product "Pyrex," you must obtain a license from the owner of the trademark. The Chinese don't care about or enforce such things. They routinely steal trademarks, trade names, patents, copyrighted material and all other manner of intellectual property.

Rizziking pointed out in another topic and it was spot-on true:

China has some of the highest manufacturing standards in the world if your willing to pay for it but also caters for all price points

Bingo!

Americans clamour for more more more but they want it cheap cheap cheap.

I don't know how, or even why, people expect to get top quality stuff cheap.......and the chinese get up in the morning, sit in factories all day assembling stuff for the US market.

IF this weren't happening, you would get one of 2 things: We'd be back to using fish aquarium filters and stuffing them into atties to vape on, OR, we'd be using US companies (if there were any) who make atties, cartos, etc. but expect to pay Provari P3 prices (relative) for them and for replacement coils.

Aspire admitted the chimney is plated brass. Their "lie" was advertising it as (all) SS. Most of it IS stainless steel. Lie by omission? I think it might be too early to come to a conclusion on all this....

I agree and it's very difficult to decide if it is ad copy, or a language barrier, or that some people call things something and they are really something else.

This is why we are calling ourselves "guinea pigs" all the time. Honestly, I don't see any way around that, unless we decide we don't *want* to be guinea pigs and there is some sort of standardization (i.e. lowest acceptable standards for the industry) in terms of materials and (with eliquid) ingredients.

But vapers complain they don't want any kiind of regulation, etc.

I just don't see HOW to win here.

I guess time will tell. Everybody is going to have to be a little flexible ...... I think about the 500 pines on my land here, and they have survived many tornadoes......because they bend in the wind, unlike the big oaks I have which have come up out of the ground, "root up" after those storms.



As for cleaning, they seem more "carto-like" to me, I would give 'em a good boil? Not sure I would want to be using everclear, etc. on that kind of ceramic stuff .

 

[bigdancehawk]

Hmmm not sure I would take there word for that on the SIlo tank, I just read a post by Todd (Reviewer) that said that they are made by the same people that make the Nautilus) but are designed in the USA. I guess the only sure way to find out would be to buy one and sand down the chimney.Maybe Beyond Vape just think its SS just like we thought the Nautilus was.

I don't trust them either. Here's what they say about the Mini Nautilus:

"Product Description
The Nautilus Mini is the next generation of tank systems. Made of stainless steel and Pyrex glass, the Nautilus Mini uses the Aspire “BVC” (Bottom Vertical Coil) atomizer technology."

 

[Pinggolfer]

i just got an email back form Beyond Vape and unfortunately the Chimney in their Silo Tanks are also Chrome Plated Brass UGH!

Here is my reply from Beyond Vape.

Hey Robert,

Our Silo Tank Kit Chimney is made out of Stainless Steel.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,

Edison | Beyond Vape

 

[kkay59]

Now, I'm confused. One says one, one says another. Which one is it?

Here is my reply from Beyond Vape.

Hey Robert,

Our Silo Tank Kit Chimney is made out of Stainless Steel.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,

Edison | Beyond Vape

 

[Atlantisboy]

I got this reply today from Edison at Beyond Vape.

Hey Angelo,

Unfortunately, our product development team informed me that the Chimney in the Silo Tank Kit is Chrome Plated Brass.

The chrome plating is very thick and durable that the chimney will not affect your vaping experience.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,

Edison | Beyond Vape

 

[DPLongo22]

More confusion from the land of the rising sun? Say it isn't so.

 

[Katya]

Americans clamour for more more more but they want it cheap cheap cheap.

Aspire Nautilus tanks are not cheap. Far from it.

Authentic Kayfuns, made in Germany, all surgical grade stainless steel, cost about 100 bucks. Many people who can afford them buy them and don't complain. Others, who either can't or won't pay that price, can get a very good clone, like Ehpro, for 30 bucks or so, all stainless steel. Aspire Nautilus costs also 30 bucks or so (plus you have to buy coils, another 10 bucks for a 5-pack) and it's not even stainless steel. Whatever you may say about Kangertech, they have a stainless (more expensive) and a non-stainless (Genitank) lines of their tanks. Full disclosure.

CE4s, plastic ViVi Novas and T3s are cheap. Eleaf iStick is ridiculously cheap for a 20-watt DNA-style mod.

Besides, this is about lying, Racehorse. This is about advertising a product as made of ss, charging ss prices, and actually selling cheap alloy. Not about bad Americans wanting cheap stuff.

 

[Katdarling]

Which Kanger tank is all SS, Katya? Might as well give 'em a plug.

Oh how I wish I enjoyed the Kanger coils.... darnit, but I've fallen for the BVCs, bigga time-a.


WAIT. That's it! One of you super dooper crazy talented modders...... can ya come up with a way that we can use the BVCs in a Kanger ALL stainless steel tank??


(And Spingy, my sympathies on your new Silo tanks, deary.)

 

[leekeylee]

Which Kanger tank is all SS, Katya? Might as well give 'em a plug.

Oh how I wish I enjoyed the Kanger coils.... darnit, but I've fallen for the BVCs, bigga time-a.


WAIT. That's it! One of you super dooper crazy talented modders...... can ya come up with a way that we can use the BVCs in a Kanger ALL stainless steel tank??


(And Spingy, my sympathies on your new Silo tanks, deary.)

I rebuilld the enclosed dual coils from kanger to a vertical micro coil and the vape is amazing.

Here is how I do it

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ed-kanger-dual-coil-single-vertical-coil.html

 

[Katya]

Which Kanger tank is all SS, Katya? Might as well give 'em a plug.

Oh how I wish I enjoyed the Kanger coils.... darnit, but I've fallen for the BVCs, bigga time-a.

My Aerotanks are all ss--or so they claim. I believe the Emow is ss too. They both can be had for 18 bucks each at Sweet Vapes. But don't do anything yet--Kanger is introducing new BPDC coils, with Japanese organic cotton, with their new Sub Tank, and those coils will work with other Kanger DC tanks. So, hang on to your hat and enjoy your BVC coils. I have a feeling that in a few months there will be more good stuff on the market. If you hate Kanger coils, don't buy them. Just wait another month or two.

Kanger BPDC Coil Head - Accessories

Any day now!

 

[Pinggolfer]

(And Spingy, my sympathies on your new Silo tanks, deary.)

Thanks Kat. Looks like Edison has changed his mind. BTW Kat my Provi is smarter than your Provi. Mine has a IQ.

This might be helpful.

Brass is anti- corrosive compared to steel alloys, and does not rust easily, yet both of the elements may react with different corrosive agents. Due to its high anti-corrosive attribute, brass is used for petroleum products and for carrying hot or cold water within industrial or residential systems.

 

[Katdarling]

I rebuilld the enclosed dual coils from kanger to a vertical micro coil and the vape is amazing.

Here is how I do it

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ed-kanger-dual-coil-single-vertical-coil.html

Thanks leekeylee, and I'm sure this will be of interest to some. Not for me tho, thank you. The only thing I rebuild is my stamina.

My Aerotanks are all ss--or so they claim. I believe the Emow is ss too. They both can be had for 18 bucks each at Sweet Vapes. But don't do anything yet--Kanger is introducing new BPDC coils, with Japanese organic cotton, with their new Sub Tank, and those coils will work with other Kanger DC tanks. So, hang on to your hat and enjoy your BVC coils. I have a feeling that in a few months there will be more good stuff on the market. If you hate Kanger coils, don't buy them. Just wait another month or two.

Kanger BPDC Coil Head - Accessories

Any day now!

AHA! So yet MORE letters and acronymicals. Geeze, I'm just calling them the Kanger Sub Coils, maybe even Subs, for short!

Welp, they look to be Kanger's answer to the Atlantis coils (with the sub ohm availability).

I do hope your Aerotanks are all SS as "claimed". I'm beginning to wonder if any of our tanks really are..... dunno.

Thanks Kat. Looks like Edison has changed his mind. BTW Kat my Provi is smarter than your Provi. Mine has a IQ.

This might be helpful.

Brass is anti- corrosive compared to steel alloys, and does not rust easily, yet both of the elements may react with different corrosive agents. Due to its high anti-corrosive attribute, brass is used for petroleum products and for carrying hot or cold water within industrial or residential systems.

Ping-go, you're Provi is smarter than all of us, hon. That's one reason I can't go for the P3. I'm afraid I'd use up all my OWN points trying to figure out its!

Ok, so we're safe! As long as we want to vape pipe water...