Aspire Nautilus has a Chromed Brass chimney.
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I honestly don't understand why both Kanger and Aspire are releasing sub-ohm coils... Most casual vapers don't even own batteries that can support sub-ohm coils. And people who sub-ohm own RBAs and wind their own coils. But what do I know?
An update! I just got an email from Aspire's Service Department. I can't copy and paste it here because it's against TOS, but I can share with you the gist of that message. 1) I'm being assured that there is no fiberglass in BVC coils. "For our BVC coils,we use a new composite material named ceramic fiber,it is not fiberglass. The name used in the certification is wrong, therefore,we remove it from our website to avoid any misunderstanding."
2) I am also told that they "add a layer of cotton on the surface of ceramic fiber,which has filtering effect and prevent customer from inhaling any material." Which, coincidentally, answers the question about the purpose of that screen--it's pretty clear to me that it has the same function as the layer of cotton, no matter what we've been told or assumed previously. That screen is not there to prevent juice getting into our mouths, folks.
3) Last but not least, the message assures me that "Now,we are talking with authoritative organizations to send our products for detection." So I hope that Aspire will, at some point, provide a new and improved answer to our questions. And hopefully some proof--like an independent lab test--preferably in English.
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe something indeed was lost in translation.
If you like Aspire coils or would like to try them but are still on the fence, or if that chromed brass annoys you, please send them an email and express your concerns.
Mr Allen Liu, Aspire CEO:
allen@eigate.com or allen@aspirecig.com
Service Dept:
service@aspirecig.com
I haven't heard anything wrt to the brass chimney. But they did at least admit, on their forum, that the chimney is not ss.
So there.
For the people who want sub-ohm but are either too lazy, too inept or maybe just have something which stops them being able to make coils. I like making my own coils, but I can understand how someone with a slight shake or visual problem might have great difficulty in doing it.I honestly don't understand why both Kanger and Aspire are releasing sub-ohm coils... Most casual vapers don't even own batteries that can support sub-ohm coils. And people who sub-ohm own RBAs and wind their own coils. But what do I know?
I understand that and that makes sense. But how many casual users will try to put those coils on their eGos and MVPs and iSticks? How many vendors will make sure that sub-ohm coil buyers will use a correct battery? I have several APVs, including a ProVari, and none of them will work with a .5Ω coil.
Besides, with the advent of high wattage mods, including DNA 30 and 40, sub-ohm vaping will soon become obsolete, IMO. Why bother with mechs and sub-ohm coils in the first place, when one can get any wattage (within reason) with a higher-ohm coils?
Just musing--not arguing. I'm not against pre-made coils at all--I just don't understand why go sub-ohm at all?
High powered mods still need low res to get the full power, but I totally agree with your point. I built a dual 18650 mech and vape at around 2 ohms and honestly I think I get a better vape than a 0.5 ohm coil at 4.2V (both 35W) but the great thing about vaping is we can all tailor it to what we want to get out of it.
The thing that bothers me, and this is even worse with the Kanger as it goes on other tanks, is the fact that people will put it on batteries that will fire it but not safely. Would you trust a cheap ego to actually not fire this? I wouldn't risk it that's for sure my vamo and itaste V3 won't fire it so that's fine, but I can shove it on a mech with the wrong battery. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has a problem at some point.
We can only hope that the short circuit protection on newer eGos and MVPs will kick in and prevent the battery from firing. If someone puts that coil on an old eGo, it will instantly kill the battery--old eGos come with a funny MOSFET that protects the battery from a short by killing it. Don't ask. 
Also, I don't think that Kanger even makes a battery that will support sub-ohm coils. Aspire does--they just released a sub-ohm capable battery.
Also, I don't think that Kanger even makes a battery that will support sub-ohm coils. Aspire does--they just released a sub-ohm capable battery.
1) I'm being assured that there is no fiberglass in BVC coils. "For our BVC coils,we use a new composite material named ceramic fiber,it is not fiberglass. The name used in the certification is wrong, therefore,we remove it from our website to avoid any misunderstanding."
2) I am also told that they "add a layer of cotton on the surface of ceramic fiber,which has filtering effect and prevent customer from inhaling any material." Which, coincidentally, answers the question about the purpose of that screen--it's pretty clear to me that it has the same function as the layer of cotton, no matter what we've been told or assumed previously. That screen is not there to prevent juice getting into our mouths, folks.
3) Last but not least, the message assures me that "Now,we are talking with authoritative organizations to send our products for detection." So I hope that Aspire will, at some point, provide a new and improved answer to our questions. And hopefully some proof--like an independent lab test--preferably in English.
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe something indeed was lost in translation.
If you like Aspire coils or would like to try them but are still on the fence, or if that chromed brass annoys you, please send them an email and express your concerns.
Mr Allen Liu, Aspire CEO:
allen@eigate.com or allen@aspirecig.com
Service Dept:
service@aspirecig.com
I haven't heard anything wrt to the brass chimney. But they did at least admit, on their forum, that the chimney is not ss.
So there.
thanks for doing all this follow up for us, Katya.
Besides enlightening us, it also puts the manufacturers on notice that we "notice" these things.
As for safety, one reason I do like those older joyetech ego batts.......they are safe as all get out. I have tried to blow one up. You cant. It just dies, as you say.
Out and about, in a less urban area, almost everyone who quit smoking and vapes around my area just has one of those egos on a lanyard....I talk to people all the time because the first vaping shop (inside discount tobacco store where I live) didn't set up shop until a full 2 years after I started vaping. Me and one guy who owned a photography studio were the only people who vaped that we both know of back in 2012.
Now, this little vape section in a town of 5,000 people, in the middle of nowhere, takes up 1/2 the store. 
More than 1/2, actually. !! It shows how FAST this is happening. Which is great!I think the most sophisticated thing that they have looks like an eVic knockoff. I brought in my Joyetech eRoll today and they were fascinated, had never seen one. The store owner is an older woman and she thinks it would be much better than the Blu they are selling to people who want a cig a like.
Intersting day.
So, you don't "get" the subohm coils for sale, but what I don't "get" is when I see posts on vaping forums about cigalike and Blu and Ego batts being "things of the past" because ........they aren't. Probably 80% of vape sales is still the simple stuff, and most of these people are NOT going to upgrade. The store owner and the gals who work there, they all got off smokes over a year ago, and are completely "happy" with their egos + clearomizers and good juice. Why change when it works.thanks for doing all this follow up for us, Katya.
Besides enlightening us, it also puts the manufacturers on notice that we "notice" these things.
Well, apparently, it does.
Yup--the old ones die, the new ones just refuse to cooperate.
Out and about, in a less urban area, almost everyone who quit smoking and vapes around my area just has one of those egos on a lanyard....I talk to people all the time because the first vaping shop (inside discount tobacco store where I live) didn't set up shop until a full 2 years after I started vaping. Me and one guy who owned a photography studio were the only people who vaped that we both know of back in 2012.
Yes, it's everywhere. Same here. When I started in 2009, I never saw other vapers out in the wild.
I think the most sophisticated thing that they have looks like an eVic knockoff. I brought in my Joyetech eRoll today and they were fascinated, had never seen one. The store owner is an older woman and she thinks it would be much better than the Blu they are selling to people who want a cig a like.
Intersting day.
Most B&Ms in SoCal don't sell cigalikes anymore (some carry eRoll). Their entry-level devices are eGo-class batteries with some kind of a tank. Only drug stores and Walmart sell superminis. What I see here in the streets are eGo-class batteries, MVPs, other small box mods (perhaps DNA), tube mods--and tanks. I see so many drivers puffing happily in their cars--sometimes they see my APV and wave!
It's nice!
How many of us have used brass water faucets all our lives and eaten meals cooked in aluminum skillets? Life is full of things we shouldn't be exposed to but life is what it is.
Kanthal itself isn't exactly above criticism. We heat it to vaporize our juice and inhale the result. The brass in our mods is more or less like the brass in our faucets. Brass in an atomizer is more of a contact exposure that isn't directly inhaled like the metals in a coil or the silica fibers in a production atomizer. Cotton for wicks and SS for atomizer bodies are probably much safer.
Kanthal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kanthal itself isn't exactly above criticism. We heat it to vaporize our juice and inhale the result. The brass in our mods is more or less like the brass in our faucets. Brass in an atomizer is more of a contact exposure that isn't directly inhaled like the metals in a coil or the silica fibers in a production atomizer. Cotton for wicks and SS for atomizer bodies are probably much safer.
Kanthal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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My wife and I went to Panera Bread last night for some Brocoli Cheddar soup and a sandwich. We sat in the "back room" area. After I got through eating I pulled out the iStick with my Kayfun on it and vaped a couple of hits, mostly blowing the vaper down under the table.
I looked up to see a guy from another table standing next to me. He smiled and said, "I see you are using one of those e-cigarettes ... is that what they are called?". I got ready for the snark to start, but he went on to say, "I've never seen one in person before. Would you mind telling me how that works?". I was glad to do that and equally happy that he wasn't going to be a wise-.... I explained how it works and told him about my 4 1/2 year journey from smoking to vaping. Toward the last he mentioned that he had seen something on TV about people buying head shop substances and vaping them in ecigs. He remarked that, "You don't do that, do you?". I laughed and told him no, my ecig was just to satisfy my tobacco urges.
That encounter is typical of what happens when I vape in public. It's an educational experience for those who ask and I'm sure that theyeventually tell ten others about what they found out.
I looked up to see a guy from another table standing next to me. He smiled and said, "I see you are using one of those e-cigarettes ... is that what they are called?". I got ready for the snark to start, but he went on to say, "I've never seen one in person before. Would you mind telling me how that works?". I was glad to do that and equally happy that he wasn't going to be a wise-.... I explained how it works and told him about my 4 1/2 year journey from smoking to vaping. Toward the last he mentioned that he had seen something on TV about people buying head shop substances and vaping them in ecigs. He remarked that, "You don't do that, do you?". I laughed and told him no, my ecig was just to satisfy my tobacco urges.
That encounter is typical of what happens when I vape in public. It's an educational experience for those who ask and I'm sure that theyeventually tell ten others about what they found out.
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Yes, but when I purchase the aluminum pan, or faucet, I know it's aluminum or brass.
In the case of these clearomizers, the actual materials were not disclosed properly. Now, they are.
Based on what I know about the "disease process", it is a cumulative event.
So, I like to choose which, how much and/or how many, of these things I expose myself to. I don't eat processed foods, and I don't cook in aluminum, and I limit my exposure to other stuff I think may impact my health negatively.
I see no reason why I can't do that with vaping stuff, or why there is always so much defensiveness about it.
I guess the point is that, after being told that vaping is almost "harmless", some of the things, if you add them up, cumulatively, really aren't harmless. Add the metals, diketones in some juices, clearos and/or drip tips made of metals that we aren't supposed to biologically have a lot of contact with.....just sayin', if you combine enough things.........
I reject the worn cliche about "but cigarettes were worse." Yes, that is true, for sure. But I don't want to inch closer to "unhealthy behavior" with vaping either, that's all. And, I think there are probably a lot of people who feel the same way, they just are somewhat hesitant to talk about it openly at times.
Yes, living itself has inherent dangers. But those are unforseen, so I can't control them. But I can control what I vape, what I vape on, etc. if I have knowledge about what my risks are, I can choose which to accept and which to reject..
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2) I am also told that they "add a layer of cotton on the surface of ceramic fiber,which has filtering effect and prevent customer from inhaling any material." Which, coincidentally, answers the question about the purpose of that screen--it's pretty clear to me that it has the same function as the layer of cotton, no matter what we've been told or assumed previously. That screen is not there to prevent juice getting into our mouths, folks.
Thank you for the update Katya.
As for the mesh screen, I usually find black ash over that mesh. And into chimney. And sometimes into drip tip.
I asked Aspire (Aspire Support: •View topic - Aspire Nautilus Mini. Black ash inside coils?) and they told me that is juice coloring which I highly doubt since I've also used 70/30 PG/VG 0-nic unflavored juice, just for testing it. The black "ash" was there again.
I specificaly asked them if it was coming from the wick but I got no answer.
Pleasure. I'm glad that they finally responded. BTW, your thread is being discussed by Aussie Vapers:
Aspire nautilus has chromed brass chimney
I have never seen any black ash in my toppers. However, I've seen dark brown e-juice dripping from the bottom of my cartomizers that have been used for a while. Some clearomizers also turn ejuice dark--after a while. Some this discoloration may be due to rapid nicotine oxidation or perhaps coil gunk dissolving slowly and mixing with fresh eliquid--PG is a good solvent. However, this was in the past--I haven't noticed any discoloration recently with my my clearos.
I agree. In the words of Dr. Farsalinos, some of the potential dangers of vaping are completely avoidable--so I choose to avoid them. Diketones, certain aldehydes, food colorings are added to our e-liquids--they are not essential--so I choose to avoid them. I also avoid very high temperatures because we don't know yet how they affect our eliquids and certain metals present in our juice delivery devices. I'm glad that Dr. Farsalinos is studying those processes right now and I'm eagerly awaiting the results. In the meantime, I try to stay away from controversial ingredients and materials. Yes, I smoked for years. My lungs are already damaged. I'm trying to heal--not make things worse.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/e-cigarette-research-temperature-of-evaporation
The problem with fiberglass/ceramic particles potentially getting into one's lungs is that lungs can't expel them--IF they get there, they will stay there, forming a cyst... Again, I'm not saying that this is happening with BVC coils--I don't know--but there is a possibility. So why risk it?
Just my take. We're all adults here and have different tolerances for risk-taking. I also wear seatbelts and look both ways before crossing the street.
I never said that we should boycott Aspire or told anyone to stop using their products. I just want full disclosure so I can make my own decisions based on the information we have to date. Just the facts, Ma'am.
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Dr. Farsalinos is ready to proceed--but doesn't have enough money ATM:
Evolv's DNA 40 with temperature regulation requires nickel wires. Imeo (and other modders) are experimenting with titanium wire. Thank God for people who try to improve vaping and its safety for all of us.
Which Kanger tank is all SS, Katya? Might as well give 'em a plug.
Oh how I wish I enjoyed the Kanger coils.... darnit, but I've fallen for the BVCs, bigga time-a.
WAIT. That's it! One of you super dooper crazy talented modders...... can ya come up with a way that we can use the BVCs in a Kanger ALL stainless steel tank??
Looky here--apparently you can get an adapter that will let you use (non-Nautilus) BDC and BVC coils in ProTanks and Davides. But not Nautilus coils.
BDC to Protank Adapter - Kidney Puncher
Looky here--apparently you can get an adapter that will let you use (non-Nautilus) BDC and BVC coils in ProTanks and Davides. But not Nautilus coils.
BDC to Protank Adapter - Kidney Puncher
soon we'll running on nothing but adapters
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