At Last a Super battery efficient Genesis setup !!!

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At Last a Super battery efficient Genesis setup !!!

Anyone who has seen any of my DID or AGA-T set-up post will know I’m not a fan of high ohm coils mainly because I pretty much only use my mechanical mods now, primarily the Paps, and although it is still pretty compact in 18650 mode I just can’t love even that because of it’s long length and weight, call me a winger, but as time goes on I want a more and more compact unit, especially when out and about.
My Zmax although tough and powerful just feels like a truncheon, and now lives at home most of the time.
What I am getting at is I love the Paps in 18350 mode and like it a lot, although less, in 18500 mode, but my low ohm set-ups have been hovering around the 0.7-0.9 Ohm mark and the battery life in 18350 mode is pitiful and only slightly better in 18500 mode.
I had been using #500 mesh 75-100mm length rolled semi tight to around 3mm diameter 4-6 wrap 28g Kanthal or Nichrome with the adjustable tank breather screw I developed to ease vacuum lock while wicking.

I have recently been on a power efficiency mission hoping to get some decent runtime out of the 18350s and 18500s, and I really think I have cracked it.( I don’t take all the credit, as all I know is through AVF ECF and my own experimentation)

How about a 10watt 1.4Ohm setup with fill screw in, that vapes more consistently, produces as much vapor and flavour as a 20watt 0.7Ohm #500 mesh 75-100mm length rolled semi tight to around 3mm diameter 4-6 wrap 28g Kanthal or Nichrome with the adjustable tank breather screw?


Here it is, I know it’s not as pretty as my other set-ups, but that’s partly because I’ve run over 15ml of 90% vg Royal Blend e-liquid through it before posting , just to make sure this is not a fluke, and that it has durability.

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Setup is on an AGA-T, it has a 4mm countersunk wickhole with a 3mm glass insulator (cut from a 4mm fuse, then sanded to remove any chips or roughness with about a 3-3.15mm internal diameter, and I will add that it is not subject to massive temperature or stress with this setup, and shows no signs of stress fractures or chipping) 6 wrap 30g kanthal minimal pitch coil on 65mm of #200 mesh, rolled quite tight to 2mm (or tooth pick/qtip diameter) with tiny center hole.


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So far all I can say is this really rocks, and I never would have thought this would be my goto setup, but until I find anything that is even better all my super low ohm gennys are going unused & gathering dust.
 

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This looks pretty interesting. Could you explain the science/reasoning at how you got there?

That would involve a very long post, but to surmise.
1. Non melting insulated wick hole reduces chance of losing current from the wick to ground via the ss top platform.
2. Small diameter wick with no physical contact with ss top platform creates a wick with very low heat sink properties and very consistent start up temperature, leading to lower power requirements from power source and more consistant vaporization.
3. Near solid wick allows optimum juice delivery to coil.
4.Tight wrap spacing ( minimal pitch) concentrates heat in smaller area, reducing vapor responce delay and reaches vaporization temp at low power settings.
5. 30g 6 wrap coil (settled at 1.5ohms) allows more wraps than 32g to spread heating area evenly without the mass heating issues of 28g, and allows for operation on a 3.7v mechanical mod with very low amperage drain.
6. Ss washers from positive post to wick, reduces wasted resistance wire sat in open air and not contributing to production of optimum temperature vaporization.
7. Single top ss washer encourages vapor to circulate in chamber longer befor editing through the mouthpiece allowing more time for vapor to expand.
Let me know if I missed anything :)
 
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Great post man. I noticed you were using #200 mesh and wondering where you found it and if I can order some? I like high VG juices and the #500 wont really wick it all nor will the #400 mesh. I have to tilt it 45sec-1min to let the wick fill with juice. I was going to order some #325 mesh but if I can get #200 I would much rather have that.
 

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The 1.5ohm setup now has a #500 wick Installed, and is better than ever. The #200 is ok, but seems to be less durable and although it worked ok I'm not sure it was as good as the #500. The long and the short of it is everything works with the right length of mesh the right density of roll and nice tight coil.
I am experimenting all the time, but I keep coming back to a semi solid ( first rolled tight to around 70% of the required diameter the rolled the other way to loosen up then lightly rolled semi tight to 100% of the required diameter ) #500 wick.
The more things I try the more I am amazed at how almost everything works, as lond as my wick is oxidized and my coil is nice and tight ( without cutting into the wick. Still do all testing with aroun 80-90% VG, so not taking the easy PG route.
 

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Any info on where you got the insulation material for the wick hole and exactly how you made it? I have a hell of a time with hot spots coming back occasionally after I already worked them out and am vaping already. I don't like to crazy oxidize my wick so I was thinking about trying to make an insulator for my aga wicks but wasn't real sure what to use that wouldn't melt and cause more problems than it was worth.
 

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Any info on where you got the insulation material for the wick hole and exactly how you made it? I have a hell of a time with hot spots coming back occasionally after I already worked them out and am vaping already. I don't like to crazy oxidize my wick so I was thinking about trying to make an insulator for my aga wicks but wasn't real sure what to use that wouldn't melt and cause more problems than it was worth.

All the info is in the OP.:confused: oly edit is that it was a 5mm OD glass fuse.

"5mm countersunk wickhole with a 3mm glass insulator (cut from a 5mm fuse, then sanded to remove any chips or roughness with about a 3-3.15mm internal diameter,"
 
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I read it just fine I asked where he got it not what it was made from. It looks thicker than any glass fuse I have worked with so I wanted to know what application it was intended for and where he bought it.

5mm slow or fast blow fuse from Leading edge electronics, try Radio Shack.
 
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