Atmistique Atomizers

[Yail Bloor]

Just thought I'd drop in and say, though the Diver I recently received went straight to my girlfriend so I haven't had much time to play with it, my first impressions are that it is a superior device to the Killer 705. And trust me, I am loath to say that, because I love my Killer and got her the Diver for it's ease of use. None-the-less I would be lying if I wasn't immediately struck by the excellent performance of the Diver. She has used both a 60/40 juice and a 95% VG juice with no feeding issues what-so-ever. The only complaint either of us had is that it would seem you can't take particularly long draws on the Diver, where as you can with the Killer 705, but the vape quality seems to make up for that one draw-back.

 

[eratikmind]

Welcome to the Diver family, Yail Bloor. The Diver is the answer for every carto tank user.

Happy Diving to you and your girlfriend.

- Andy

 

[jayD]

I have 4 divers, here is one of them!

 

[Konstantinos]

A small presentation of Grail for Diver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnM7QqrK6SM

 

[sircharles]

A small presentation of Grail for Diver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnM7QqrK6SM

can't wait to get one

 

[Maptec]

Alright I am at my wits end here. I have watched all the video's, read though this thread, tried all the tip and tricks. I can build my diver with 2 x 2mm silica with a 1.7ohm and 1.2 ohm coil (NR-R-NR). I make sure the the feed hole is opposite the wicks with the wicks cut at the thread length and short of the the threads. Juice is 30pg/70vg and only filling half way on the first fill. I have tried a Jtank, IBT 19/22mm tank and phanatic tank.

The issue is that once I fill, I let it feed and soak in (Feed hole below the tank when I fill). Take a few hits and they are good. After that The gurgling gets worse and worse until it just floods. I can vape it till I get a dry hit and start the process over again. The cup and pin fits in like it should and the only damage I can see is what looks like a line in the plastic insert where the previous owner used resistance wire only. I really do not know where to go from here.

 

[tmcase]

Alright I am at my wits end here. I have watched all the video's, read though this thread, tried all the tip and tricks. I can build my diver with 2 x 2mm silica with a 1.7ohm and 1.2 ohm coil (NR-R-NR). I make sure the the feed hole is opposite the wicks with the wicks cut at the thread length and short of the the threads. Juice is 30pg/70vg and only filling half way on the first fill. I have tried a Jtank, IBT 19/22mm tank and phanatic tank.

The issue is that once I fill, I let it feed and soak in (Feed hole below the tank when I fill). Take a few hits and they are good. After that The gurgling gets worse and worse until it just floods. I can vape it till I get a dry hit and start the process over again. The cup and pin fits in like it should and the only damage I can see is what looks like a line in the plastic insert where the previous owner used resistance wire only. I really do not know where to go from here.

It sounds like you are doing everything right. My only suggestion would be to try a juice with high VG and see if the same thing happens. Your juice might just be too thin/watery.

 

[Maptec]

It sounds like you are doing everything right. My only suggestion would be to try a juice with high VG and see if the same thing happens. Your juice might just be too thin/watery.

I have used 100% vg and it didn't wick well at all. Thats why I dropped to 70% vg.

 

[tmcase]

I have used 100% vg and it didn't wick well at all. Thats why I dropped to 70% vg.

I use 100% VG diluted with 5% DT with cotton or ecowool with no wicking issues so I'm stumped.

Is it possible that when you screw your RBA on your mod you are pushing the center pin up and dislodging the ceramic cup a tad? When you take it apart is the cup still tight in the base?

 

[tmcase]

I have used 100% vg and it didn't wick well at all. Thats why I dropped to 70% vg.

I misread your earlier post. I thought you were vaping 70% PG. Sorry.

 

[Maptec]

I thought that as well. Since I have it built but not in a tank I checked. Everything is still snug. I really wanted this to work too. With such a simple device is it possible to have a bad diver?

 

[tmcase]

I thought that as well. Since I have it built but not in a tank I checked. Everything is still snug. I really wanted this to work too. With such a simple device is it possible to have a bad diver?

I don't think I've heard of anyone getting a bad one but I'll leave that question for the supplier.

Just to be sure...you have the juice hole lined up so the hole is right in front of the horizontal coil. The triangle is left end of coil, right end of coil and juice hole. Is this the way you have it set up?

Have you tried a different ceramic cup?

 

[Maptec]

I don't think I've heard of anyone getting a bad one but I'll leave that question for the supplier.

Just to be sure...you have the juice hole lined up so the hole is right in front of the horizontal coil. The triangle is left end of coil, right end of coil and juice hole. Is this the way you have it set up?

Have you tried a different ceramic cup?

That is how I have it. I have a spare cup that I have tried that seems to fit a bit loose so I am using the original.

 

[tmcase]

That is how I have it. I have a spare cup that I have tried that seems to fit a bit loose so I am using the original.

Man you can't win for losing. Hopefully somebody with more experience than me will be able to help you. I just don't see what you could be doing wrong.

 

[Kataphraktos]

Alright I am at my wits end here. I have watched all the video's, read though this thread, tried all the tip and tricks. I can build my diver with 2 x 2mm silica with a 1.7ohm and 1.2 ohm coil (NR-R-NR). I make sure the the feed hole is opposite the wicks with the wicks cut at the thread length and short of the the threads. Juice is 30pg/70vg and only filling half way on the first fill. I have tried a Jtank, IBT 19/22mm tank and phanatic tank.

The issue is that once I fill, I let it feed and soak in (Feed hole below the tank when I fill). Take a few hits and they are good. After that The gurgling gets worse and worse until it just floods. I can vape it till I get a dry hit and start the process over again. The cup and pin fits in like it should and the only damage I can see is what looks like a line in the plastic insert where the previous owner used resistance wire only. I really do not know where to go from here.

The damage you mention: is that the black insert in the base, through which the pole is inserted? I imagine damage to that would cause leaking out of the base, if anything, not gurgling and flooding.

I found I would get flooding if I used too much wicking material. I tried 2 x 2mm Ekowool and single 3mm Ekowool. I settled on single 2mm Ekowool, the others never quite worked for me. A single strand of 2mm Ekowool is slightly thicker than a single strand of silica.

With a single strand of 2mm Ekowool, I also leave a bit more length to the wicks (maybe and additional 3mm on each side compared to what you see in the videos), and I make sure the wicks don't get into the threads.

 

[Maptec]

This is what I have set up now

 

[tmcase]

This is what I have set up now

What gauge NR wire are you using? And are you using nickel or silver. I'm seeing a gap on the left of the ceramic cup where the neg wire is. I'm wondering if that wire is too thick and causing juice to leak around the cup at the wire. Is that the case or is it just how it looks in the pic?

 

[Kataphraktos]

This is what I have set up now

Here's mine. That's built as I described above. Was working perfectly in my Scuba for many days of 100% VG sludge from VCV, Ahlusion, and other known murderers of wick and wire innocents. Compared to mine, your wick seems a bit threadbare. IMO, that is probably the reason for the flooding. Have some of the wick threads been removed?

Edit: I would also try playing with how tight the wire is wrapped. If it is wrapped too tight, it won't wick efficiently, if at all. Too loose, and it won't make contact withe the juice. Both will cause flooding, as the juice isn't vaporized at a fast enough pace, and therefore continues to collect. I went through a lot of builds before I got to one that was perfect - 1mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 3mm Ekowool in various configurations, microcoil to few large loops... Every atty and other process has taken practice. Learning how to build a Kayfun and a Diver didn't stop me from taking almost 3 hours to get a decent configuration in my new Ithaka today.

 

[Maptec]

What gauge NR wire are you using? And are you using nickel or silver. I'm seeing a gap on the left of the ceramic cup where the neg wire is. I'm wondering if that wire is too thick and causing juice to leak around the cup at the wire. Is that the case or is it just how it looks in the pic?

Looking at it you may be right. It is 32g nickel

 

[tmcase]

Here's mine. That's built as I described above. Was working perfectly in my Scuba for many days of 100% VG sludge from VCV, Ahlusion, and other known murderers of wick and wire innocents. Compared to mine, your wick seems a bit threadbare. IMO, that is probably the reason for the flooding. Have some of the wick threads been removed?

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You might have something there. It does look a little thin.