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Atomic Cinnacide...Too Strong? Or Just Right?
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Hey Geoff, sound like you need to bring back the original recipe. AC will be my next order. Is there really an after taste?
hi, geoff. the last 2 orders of AC i got (back in september got 200+ mls, got 2 orders cus i thought the first one with bad aftertaste was a fluke)) had this after taste that i can only describe as:
old tire? and was so strong i couldnt vape it. i dont know how to explain it very well, all i know is that the stuff i had before those orders most certainly didnt have any bad aftertaste. i havent ordered any ac since.
i think by original mix, we all mean before you changed it to take the red out of it.
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you posted this in another thread: I WILL spill the beans on one of them. We're concerned about the AC. Loranns HAS gone downhill with their cinnamon essential oil and we are currently testing a "like" cinnamon through Perfumer's Apprentice. We're testing it for flavor, separation, comparable qualities, etc.
We've had to send a few gallons back to Lorann's over their inconsistencies with flavorings. You'd think a company that's been around as long as they have would have things down to a science, BUT, we've had gallons of cinnamon come to us, sometimes weak, sometimes with things floating in it...We've had one gallon of butter rum coming to us light brown in color then the next outright brown. For an older company like Lorann's, their inconsistencies are possibly costing us customers, because the customer wants to think and believe the the problem is US no matter how much convincing we try to do. We're beginning to see similar behavior with Capella's as well. Not good, but we'll keep an eye on them, so you don't have to.
i wonder if this was the reason for the bad after taste i got? maybe this was around the time that lorains started going down hill?
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Sooperdrave. We think we know what this might be. EM (ethyl maltol) is used in a lot of our recipes to mimic a "burnt or carmelized sugar" taste in our liquids without the use of sweetener. While this doesn't actually sweeten the liquid, it at least gives that flavor. It is entirely possible that EM was accidentally used in the bottles you got. If that IS the case, I do apologize. Since the cinnamon is entirely responsible for the sweetness in the AC mix, we don't really need to use EM as it is sweet enough on its own, that it doesn't need help.
I really do suspect this is the case. I just hope you won't hold our company in whole responsible for what could be a simple mistake. Maybe give us a call. Which is always a good policy.
I really do suspect this is the case. I just hope you won't hold our company in whole responsible for what could be a simple mistake. Maybe give us a call. Which is always a good policy.
I remember when the recipe was changed to remove the red food coloring, and I didn't try AC until AFTER that. Mine definitely doesn't have an old tire aftertaste. It started out yellow, in fact the extra doubler is still yellow, but I think my ~18mg AC is a deep red because of the browning of nicotine after awhile, not because of red food coloring. So I don't think your aftertaste is an issue with the recipe, perhaps maybe issues at Lorann's or with tastebuds?
EDIT:: Or what Geoff said.
EDIT:: Or what Geoff said.
Yeah Dillinger, since we don't use a preservative to preserve the color or shelf life (we don't want to taint the flavors by loading up your liquids with preservatives), oxygen will over the course of a couple months turn nicotine red. There are a couple of flavorings we use that actually react with the nicotine (not in a dangerous way) and turn it PINK!
There is no danger. It's just what happens when nicotine is exposed to oxygen.
There is no danger. It's just what happens when nicotine is exposed to oxygen.
i dont hold it against you or your company, i have ordered other stuff since and will continue to do so.
i sold the juice and the people who bought it didnt have any complaints, so i didnt take a loss. mistakes happen and im cool with that. i think you may be right about the EM as the AC was also sweeter than usual. ill give ac another shot if you promise not to put any EM in it....
could of been the loranns, definatley not my tastebuds, i think geoff hit the nail on the head.
just made an order. crossing my fingers.
and by the way, sorry to have derailed this thread!
back on topic: i think ac has just the right amount of punch.
and by the way, sorry to have derailed this thread!
back on topic: i think ac has just the right amount of punch.
Vaping the test recipe using Perfumer's Apprentice's rendition of Lorann's Cinnamon. Honestly. It's VERY much toned down. For those who enjoy the punch AC delivers, I don't think this would be a substitution. It's too subdued. I'm very much addicted to the AC as well. Though I have to back off quite frequently as it begins to harsh my throat TOO much. But I go between AC and Geoff's Blend all day long.
No, the original recipe was voted out due to an artificial coloring issue. Is there an aftertaste? Taste is always subjective. What tastes fine to one person, may have an aftertaste to someone else. But the majority seems to be speaking here, that it's fine the way it is, change nothing.
Although, I WILL admit, vaping AC a couple of times and having what tasted like a rubber tire burning, like Sooperdrave stated, turned out to be the atomizer actually. It was running REALLY hot and burned the liquid. Used a different atty and NO PROBLEM.
But it could also be due to someone accidentally using EM in the mix, when the recipe doesn't call for it.
Always good to consider equipment into the equation too.
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Please keep it as it is. Between this, Tobacco/menthol and my own concoction of Peppermint/Cream it's all I vape. Oh, the occational TF also.
i tried it with cartos and 2 different new 510 attys. i think your probably right about the EM.
Please don't change a thing! It is my all day vape, and the only flavor that is keeping me off of analogs. 4 weeks tomorrow!
Geoff, your service, and attention to your customers rocks. I think I will order some with my next waffle order.
Now everything makes sense to me, I have a 4oz doubler that is red. I had traded something for it and I couldn't figure out why it was red when my other AC doublers are light almost clear.
lol and I had put it away because it was different. I might just have to break it out!
Congrats Sandspms!!! I agree I couldn't have done it without AC either!!!
lol and I had put it away because it was different. I might just have to break it out!
Congrats Sandspms!!! I agree I couldn't have done it without AC either!!!
Another vote for leaving AC the way it is. On those days when none of my other flavors is doing it for me, AC always satisfies. And if I get a flavor that I can barely taste, a squirt of AC makes it vapable. AC is like the Swiss pocket knife in my juice collection.
Where is option C, bring on the heat???? Maybe another pulldown on the site for strong, medium, or wimp. It's one of the milder hot cinnamon's that I have, although it was 20% VG so that might account for it. Ms.Ts hot cinnamon candy is slightly more potent, although the candy background in AC might make it appear less potent. I have a rather mean DIY with PA hot cinnamon candy, about 30%, that I like a lot, but it doesn't have the undertone of AC that I love so much. Between these two choices I say leave it as is, you can't call it AC if it doesn't kick you in the ... from time to time
Edit. Nevermind, my original thought was based on the 20% VG AC that I have. I just opened my AC doubler that is all VG and it's got more bite to it than my other cinnamons, I like it, time to mix a little 100mg nic and pray it doesn't dilute it too much. Possibly make note to add higher VG is people want less of a kick in the pants?
Edit. Nevermind, my original thought was based on the 20% VG AC that I have. I just opened my AC doubler that is all VG and it's got more bite to it than my other cinnamons, I like it, time to mix a little 100mg nic and pray it doesn't dilute it too much. Possibly make note to add higher VG is people want less of a kick in the pants?
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I don't know then because my original Red AC is the best out of any I have, maybe it has just steeped over time and has become very tasty or something but it is definitely a very good vape and I wont give mine up for nothing
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