Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

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I love my 3D clone from fasttech. They didn't offer the 510 adapter when I bought mine so can't comment on how well it works. It does remind me of squonking with my Reo when you use its feeding mechanism.

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I was looking at the 3D but I read a post somewhere it was a failed attempt... This was when it first came to FT
 

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Yep..... ...And as an off-topic note.... sometimes the real dna chip can get confused internally (don't really know why and it very seldom happens) and the ohm's reading will lock in and no longer change. Over a year and a half I have seen it twice and only on 2 of the 10 dna's I've built. If the china dna is just like the real one this could happened with it also.... It can be easily resolved by just taking out the battery and putting it back in...then the ohm readout will function properly again....kinda like re-booting a computer...

Yep, exactly so, sometimes one can just disconnect the rba, fire dna then retighten rba and clears it sometimes. Disconnecting the battery works every time.

Does concern me about building a lipo batt mod. Might want to install a cut off switch in line, just in case.

on a side note, 30 pages have accumulated since I went to work and am now home. Did I miss anything?
 

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Yep, exactly so, sometimes one can just disconnect the rba, fire dna then retighten rba and clears it sometimes. Disconnecting the battery works every time.

Does concern me about building a lipo batt mod. Might want to install a cut off switch in line, just in case.

on a side note, 30 pages have accumulated since I went to work and am now home. Did I miss anything?

What happened when you left?
 

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Yep, exactly so, sometimes one can just disconnect the rba, fire dna then retighten rba and clears it sometimes. Disconnecting the battery works every time.

Does concern me about building a lipo batt mod. Might want to install a cut off switch in line, just in case.

on a side note, 30 pages have accumulated since I went to work and am now home. Did I miss anything?

Personal opinion, lipos have no business being in mods....
 

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A question for all you experienced with DNA or other devices with a higher voltage starting point.

Now I understand ohms law and whatnot, but I am trying to figure something out as I have never built coils for this type of purpose..

My daily vape is a kayfun with a 1.2 ohm coil, and on my Provari's I run it at 3.8 volts. That is yielding me a 12.03 Watt setup using 3.1 amps. However the DNA devices will need a 4V minimum and if I was using the same coil it would be 13.3 ish, but just to keep it more in the zone of it regulating better I would want 4.1v at minimum and it would be 14 watts..

So I was thinking OK if I run a 1.5 ohm coil, and set the DNA to 12 watts it would be at 4.24 volts and the amperage would drop to 2.82. Would running a higher ohm coil with more voltage and less amperage feel the same vape as running with more amperage and less voltage? Wattage would be the same, it would just be doing it a different way. And this would translate fine to my Provari, the only down side is sticking the kayfun on a mech is going to not work out as well once the battery starts to fade a bit. Right now it works fine on the Provaris and the mechs.

The thing that gets me a little confused is this. I am using good batteries, like Sony VTC4's and the Efest 30's and wahtnot. On a mech with this kayfun it will be fine all day no burnt hits. Last night I decided to put the provari to 4.1v and it was burning it like crazy. I know on a mech you get voltage drop and just general battery sag as it is unregulated, but can it really be sagging that much that on the mech the batteries are going from 4.2 full to like 3.9 or so? I guess it makes sense as the Provari keeps it at the 4.1 or whatever you set it too. That is the only reason I am rethinking my coil builds for this DNA device as the particular juice I daily vape (Unflavored) will start to burn if on this coil it sees a a constant 4.1v...

Hope that makes sense..
 

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A question for all you experienced with DNA or other devices with a higher voltage starting point.

Now I understand ohms law and whatnot, but I am trying to figure something out as I have never built coils for this type of purpose..

My daily vape is a kayfun with a 1.2 ohm coil, and on my Provari's I run it at 3.8 volts. That is yielding me a 12.03 Watt setup using 3.1 amps. However the DNA devices will need a 4V minimum and if I was using the same coil it would be 13.3 ish, but just to keep it more in the zone of it regulating better I would want 4.1v at minimum and it would be 14 watts..

So I was thinking OK if I run a 1.5 ohm coil, and set the DNA to 12 watts it would be at 4.24 volts and the amperage would drop to 2.82. Would running a higher ohm coil with more voltage and less amperage feel the same vape as running with more amperage and less voltage? Wattage would be the same, it would just be doing it a different way. And this would translate fine to my Provari, the only down side is sticking the kayfun on a mech is going to not work out as well once the battery starts to fade a bit. Right now it works fine on the Provaris and the mechs.

The thing that gets me a little confused is this. I am using good batteries, like Sony VTC4's and the Efest 30's and wahtnot. On a mech with this kayfun it will be fine all day no burnt hits. Last night I decided to put the provari to 4.1v and it was burning it like crazy. I know on a mech you get voltage drop and just general battery sag as it is unregulated, but can it really be sagging that much that on the mech the batteries are going from 4.2 full to like 3.9 or so? I guess it makes sense as the Provari keeps it at the 4.1 or whatever you set it too. That is the only reason I am rethinking my coil builds for this DNA device as the particular juice I daily vape (Unflavored) will start to burn if on this coil it sees a a constant 4.1v...

Hope that makes sense..

I can only answer part of this. Yes it is possible for the voltage drop to go that low on a mech. To test, throw in a full battery, attach rda/rba and touch multimeter probes to the posts and then fire.
 

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I was looking at the 3D but I read a post somewhere it was a failed attempt... This was when it first came to FT
Trying not to stray off topic but I really like this dripper and the handy-ness of the well. I think it was more user error and not being familiar with the way the RDA was designed. The center post sits on a threaded connector and can be spun around. Which means as you try to tighten the negative posts which sit out from the center you get a goodly amount of torque that tries to spin it around messing with the center connection and generally mangling things up. You just need to hold the post still and everything is good.

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I got my pair of black ones yesterday.
Be super careful unscrewing the back, the screws are crazy soft and fastened in very tight.
I stripped the head of one of the screws and was unsuccessful removing the back plate from one unit.

The good news is that the one I managed to install a battery into, works great!
Ordered from 101 on the day the presale was announced.
 
I originally ordered with illvapes, last night I ordered with elev8 (both black). I'm pretty far down the list with elev8 and their site says the wait is at least 2 weeks. If illvapes ships I'll cancel with elev8, if not I'll cancel and wait for elev8.

FYI, even if illvapes goes chapter 11 you can still dispute the charge with your credit card company and get your refund. Also, illvapes seems to have 2 contact phone #s. One that is listed on the website, the other can be found by looking it up on yelp.

If you can afford it now, get both and sell your least favorite for what you paid. Kinda solves both problems.


Sounds logical to me; just ordered a green one from Elev8 Vape XD
 

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Having the same wattage doesn't necessarily translate into the same vape, or amount of heat across the coil. A higher ohm coil cranked up gets very hot, very quick and can taste like burning. There isn't enough surface area. This is why you see subohm builders using very thick wire instead of just cranking up normal coils. More surface area generally equals more flavor/vapor/everything.

I'm not sure about the clone, but real DNA30 devices will regulate down to 3.6-3.7v, not 4v so you could still build 1.2ohm coils and find your preferred wattage setting, just like on your Provari.

A question for all you experienced with DNA or other devices with a higher voltage starting point.

Now I understand ohms law and whatnot, but I am trying to figure something out as I have never built coils for this type of purpose..

My daily vape is a kayfun with a 1.2 ohm coil, and on my Provari's I run it at 3.8 volts. That is yielding me a 12.03 Watt setup using 3.1 amps. However the DNA devices will need a 4V minimum and if I was using the same coil it would be 13.3 ish, but just to keep it more in the zone of it regulating better I would want 4.1v at minimum and it would be 14 watts..

So I was thinking OK if I run a 1.5 ohm coil, and set the DNA to 12 watts it would be at 4.24 volts and the amperage would drop to 2.82. Would running a higher ohm coil with more voltage and less amperage feel the same vape as running with more amperage and less voltage? Wattage would be the same, it would just be doing it a different way. And this would translate fine to my Provari, the only down side is sticking the kayfun on a mech is going to not work out as well once the battery starts to fade a bit. Right now it works fine on the Provaris and the mechs.

The thing that gets me a little confused is this. I am using good batteries, like Sony VTC4's and the Efest 30's and wahtnot. On a mech with this kayfun it will be fine all day no burnt hits. Last night I decided to put the provari to 4.1v and it was burning it like crazy. I know on a mech you get voltage drop and just general battery sag as it is unregulated, but can it really be sagging that much that on the mech the batteries are going from 4.2 full to like 3.9 or so? I guess it makes sense as the Provari keeps it at the 4.1 or whatever you set it too. That is the only reason I am rethinking my coil builds for this DNA device as the particular juice I daily vape (Unflavored) will start to burn if on this coil it sees a a constant 4.1v...

Hope that makes sense..
 

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I got my pair of black ones yesterday.
Be super careful unscrewing the back, the screws are crazy soft and fastened in very tight.
I stripped the head of one of the screws and was unsuccessful removing the back plate from one unit.

The good news is that the one I managed to install a battery into, works great!
Ordered from 101 on the day the presale was announced.

How will you open the other one?
Is it a torcx screw?
 

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Having the same wattage doesn't necessarily translate into the same vape, or amount of heat across the coil. A higher ohm coil cranked up gets very hot, very quick and can taste like burning. There isn't enough surface area. This is why you see subohm builders using very thick wire instead of just cranking up normal coils. More surface area generally equals more flavor/vapor/everything.

I'm not sure about the clone, but real DNA30 devices will regulate down to 3.6-3.7v, not 4v so you could still build 1.2ohm coils and find your preferred wattage setting, just like on your Provari.

Hmm, I was just going off the specs of the device. But I won't touch any of my builds until I get the clone and see what happens. If I don't have to mess with them then I will be even happier. Thanks!
 

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Your arm chair lawyering needs some work because it is NOT illegal to buy a knock off. Thanks for the fear mongering though.

It is if you try to resell it. :)

If you buy a knockoff that was part of a trademark infringement lawsuit, or you resell it using trademark references, names, whatever....then the same can happen to you.

Let's be real, the peeps that were buying trademarked boxes had high-hopes for making a fortune on them and buyers thinking that it would be a good investment in case they ever wanted to resell it.

How much do ya think that you'd get from advertising a used China30 for sale?

ZERO.
 

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I got my pair of black ones yesterday.
Be super careful unscrewing the back, the screws are crazy soft and fastened in very tight.
I stripped the head of one of the screws and was unsuccessful removing the back plate from one unit.

The good news is that the one I managed to install a battery into, works great!
Ordered from 101 on the day the presale was announced.

Yeah, the screws are long. I never saw a screw head like that before. It isn't phillips but is a cross. I contacted 101Vape and they said to use a small, straight-head "mini" screwdriver. The one I used has a 1/16" tip.
 

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It is if you try to resell it. :)

If you buy a knockoff that was part of a trademark infringement lawsuit, or you resell it using trademark references, names, whatever....then the same can happen to you.

Let's be real, the peeps that were buying trademarked boxes had high-hopes for making a fortune on them and buyers thinking that it would be a good investment in case they ever wanted to resell it.

How much do ya think that you'd get from advertising a used China30 for sale?

ZERO.

I think you would get 60-70 for one used in good condition. I personally have no interest in selling the one I get, if the board dies I'll stick a real DNA 30 in it. But I think you underestimate the resale on vape gear.
 
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