Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[AnsonJames]

I'd be in for getting the empty cases....let us know if it can happened....and here is a link for dna's available now....
DNA 30D

The quotes I've been given are pretty silly so far - $49 a piece with a minimum order of 100 plus $295 shipping.
I was hoping for $25 to $30 but at these prices it's pretty much a no go - still waiting to here back from a couple of the other suppliers...

 

[frankbuse]

Ok can you post a guide how to insert this chip?

 

[MrBeo]

Here is the dz30l from jcmsvapes if the cana modz is even close to this i will be extremely surprised.

What a beauty!!! Wish I was waiting on a Dz mod but the one I am waiting on now should do until I get one of those Dz is a Mad Man perfectionist and I fell he does the best job with a dna 30 board out there! Sweet...
I got my clone from ILLVAPES and not hearing to much good stuff on the customer service so far but I still have faith they will come through with the pre-order and a good one...

 

[s3rca]

This was just posted on Illvapes Facebook

" To those that ordered the Hana Modz clones, the manufacturer have told us that due to quality control, all orders will be delayed an additional 5-10 days. If you have any questions please let us know. Thank you for being patient!"

 

[lot17ss]

This was just posted on Illvapes Facebook

" To those that ordered the Hana Modz clones, the manufacturer have told us that due to quality control, all orders will be delayed an additional 5-10 days. If you have any questions please let us know. Thank you for being patient!"

just as i had suspected.

 

[s3rca]

Same but it doesn't bother me one bit.

 

[MrBeo]

I was just getting ready to post this! so I take it we know who is the MFG is now...lol

This was just posted on Illvapes Facebook

" To those that ordered the Hana Modz clones, the manufacturer have told us that due to quality control, all orders will be delayed an additional 5-10 days. If you have any questions please let us know. Thank you for being patient!"

 

[lot17ss]

my email

Seems to be some speculation on these units after a recent Clouper video popped up on you tube comparing the clone to the original. They show a 2.3 ohm on the clone and a 1.4 on the original. People are getting cold feet over this since some early reviews of the dna 20 clone that wont go above 11 watts with an atomizer below 2.3 ohms as well.

Are you going to be testing FULL functionality of these devices when you get them? Also what is the refund policy on these?



Response:

I'm not sure about the ohm levels yet but we will be testing it when it comes in. As for the refund policy, we can only refund if the device is broken or if you cancel your order. Other than that, we cannot refund for other reasons once the device has been used.

Best regards,

Illvapes Team

 

[lot17ss]

I was just getting ready to post this! so I take it we know who is the MFG is now...lol

who is the mfg?

 

[truskme]

alright folks, i was tired of rumors and speculations about illvapes so i sent this email :

you should know that your business practice has been brought into question on forums, people see you guys as a shady operation and with unreliable customer service. everyone is assuming the pre orders from every vendor of the no logo DNA 30 is coming from CLOUPER, when people ask you who your manufacturer is and you give a response of " we are working with a private company that is very reputable" without actually giving us a name when every other vendor has no problem naming there source, you can see how your customers can think thats being shady. to them your basically saying, you dont need any real information just give us your money and trust us. your competition is not only answering every single question but also updating there web pages with changes in delays due to manufacturers request.

im not writing this to scold you guys, just letting you know your customers concerns. truthfully with the many vendors out there i chose illvapes because i wanted to support a local vendor. like i said people are talking but i wanted to form my own opinion by asking directly.

i simply would like to know who your manufacturer for the DNA 30 no logo clone is and what is going on with the delay and why, i want an actual name of the company not a generic copy + paste answer i've heard you given to some other people with the same question

if you cant answer this question then its fine, i will just have to cancel my order

thank you


illvapes response:


Yes, I believe we are working with Cloupor for the hanas. We put in our order 3 weeks ago and are expecting them soon. They have not notified us of any delays so I don't know if orders are really pushed back. The "private company" response is to protect our company from getting outsourced to other companies. They do manufacture custom products for us, so we try to release that information scarcely. Previous products we have received from them have been of great quality and we love working with them. I will talk to the manager to get an update on the status of the hanas and see if we can send out a mass update email.

Best Regards,

Illvapes Team

there you go folks.... i may have had to been a little harsh but i finally got the answer...

 

[s3rca]

I'm curious if the logo versions are being manufactured by someone else or if they are cloupor units as well.

A mass email to those with pre orders would go a long way

 

[Fullknight]

Great response. Thank you for contacting them.


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[truthhurts]

I "believe" we,re working with cloupor isn't straight forward lol. I have nothing against illvapes, but when you're doing a pre order you should keep people informed of what's going on. And if cloupor contacted vendors, how does illvapes not know? If they work with them so often, shouldn't they have good contact with them?

 

[ObsceneJesster]

Can someone please explain to me the desire of vaping 30 watts at .3 ohms?

I like the look of this mod and I love new toys. I'm just trying to figure out the desire to vape so hot.

Personally, I burn 1.8 ohm coils at 12 watts so I can't even imagine vaping .3 ohms at 30 watts. Am I not understanding something?

 

[s3rca]

For me it's about getting the kick of my mechanical without having to build a sub ohm coil. I'll likely go back to 2ohm coils or so and pump up the wattage . I was curious and I Built a 1.9ohm build on my Kayfun and threw it on my wife's mvp2 at 11 watts and it was awesome.

The main reason I'm looking at these is because I've been looking for a regulated device and to be honest I really like the aesthetics of the Hana.

 

[wthejudge913]

For me it's about getting the kick of my mechanical without having to build a sub ohm coil. I'll likely go back to 2ohm coils or so and pump up the wattage . I was curious and I Built a 1.9ohm build on my Kayfun and threw it on my wife's mvp2 at 11 watts and it was awesome.

The main reason I'm looking at these is because I've been looking for a regulated device and to be honest I really like the aesthetics of the Hana.

I agree with you one hundred percent i actually built a .5 nano coil today and i hit it a few times at 30 watts and took it off. I now have a 1.3 and I'm loving 19.1 watts.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

Can someone please explain to me the desire of vaping 30 watts at .3 ohms?

I like the look of this mod and I love new toys. I'm just trying to figure out the desire to vape so hot.

Personally, I burn 1.8 ohm coils at 12 watts so I can't even imagine vaping .3 ohms at 30 watts. Am I not understanding something?

Yep, you're missing something.

The math.

If I were to try and vape a .3Ω atomizer at 12W, it would only output 1.8V which simply isn't enough to fire the coils effectively. You need that extra wattage in order to bring the voltage where it needs to be. Even 30W with a .3Ω atomizer only outputting 3V, which still probably isn't enough. Even though this MOD may well go down to .3Ω, you're likely not going to be able to vape anything much below .5Ω with any effectiveness. At .5Ω and 30W, you're outputting 3.8V (which may be cool to many people). At .4Ω it drops to 3.4V. It seems pretty unlikely, unless they've added step down circuitry that the DNA30 does NOT have, that you can vape at that power, at least not with a battery that has any kind of real charge to it.

On a mech if you're using a fully charged 18650 Sony 30A battery at 4.2V with a .3Ω atomizer, you're vaping at nearly 58W. At .2Ω, you're rocking just over 88W (and 21 Amps!!). A guy at the local vape shop (who may not be as smart as he thinks he is) has his atomizer at .1Ω. He's rocking 176.4W and 42Amps on a fully charged mech. I sure hope he has one of those 50A Sonys!

Or more simply, the lower the resistance, the higher the wattage needs to be in order to effectively fire the coils.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

For me it's about getting the kick of my mechanical without having to build a sub ohm coil. I'll likely go back to 2ohm coils or so and pump up the wattage . I was curious and I Built a 1.9ohm build on my Kayfun and threw it on my wife's mvp2 at 11 watts and it was awesome.

The main reason I'm looking at these is because I've been looking for a regulated device and to be honest I really like the aesthetics of the Hana.

I'm currently (as we speak) rolling a Sigelei 20W with a 1.6Ω atomizer at 11.5W (which translates to 4.28V). Great vape.

At 30W you're would be eating burnt juice (7.7V!!).

 

[ObsceneJesster]

I'm currently (as we speak) rolling a Sigelei 20W with a 1.6Ω atomizer at 11.5W (which translates to 4.28V). Great vape.

At 30W you're would be eating burnt juice (7.7V!!).

I'm not getting something here. If .5 ohm is less resistance than 1.6 ohm then wouldn't 4.2 volts be hot as hell?

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[blueGrassTubb]

I'm not getting something here. If .5 ohm is less resistance than 1.6 ohm then wouldn't 4.2 volts be hot as hell?

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Nope. One reason is that at those resistances, you need LOTS of air which helps cool the vapor. If you don't, the vapor will be nasty hot. That's why you hear of so many people drilling out their top caps on RDAs like the Igo-W, and that's why so many newer RDAs have some serious air flow (like the Igo-M with 3 2mm holes on each side).

Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge about it can chime in.