Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

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morebassplz

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Does anyone have issues with running through the settings on theirs? I've only messed with it for 3 hours and I'm trying to activate stealth mode but my display only shows "normal mode". I press the fire button five times to lock it, then hold fire and down at the same time. Is there a certain way to scroll through settings on this thing?


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Does anyone have issues with running through the settings on theirs? I've only messed with it for 3 hours and I'm trying to activate stealth mode but my display only shows "normal mode". I press the fire button five times to lock it, then hold fire and down at the same time. Is there a certain way to scroll through settings on this thing?


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Keep holding through normal mode
 

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When I see the word ultra fire and 30 watt in the same sentence I cringe. I don't think some of these people have any idea of the real potential danger involved in many different aspects of vaping. Not just batteries.

BUT then again. I think the minimum age for a drivers license should be somewhere in the mid to late 20s. :) And it should be legal to shoot anyone you see txting while driving.. That's just me ;)
 

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Am I the only one who thinks that waaaay too many noobs, that don't have any business messing with rebuilding and 30 watt APVs are jumping the learning curve. I see a LOT of post from people that clearly have no clue about battery/mod safety, setting up the vape community for big headlines about bad news. Just a few years ago circumstances required users to learn about the tech in order to utilize it. NOW....... Its been made too easy for the general public. There ought to be a required class or something :)

Personally, I disagree. The knowledge it takes to understand vaporizers is remedial at best. All these things do is heat a coil which makes them one of the most simple electronic devices you can find. You really don't need a strong understanding of Ohm's law, a very simple concept a high school student can understand, to be safe (just download an app on your phone really). Me for example, I started with drippers on mechanical mods mainly because I have the experience and education to understand this simple concept. This is just my opinion and while yours does have its merit, I just see it a different way and that's cool too.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks that waaaay too many noobs, that don't have any business messing with rebuilding and 30 watt APVs are jumping the learning curve. I see a LOT of post from people that clearly have no clue about battery/mod safety, setting up the vape community for big headlines about bad news. Just a few years ago circumstances required users to learn about the tech in order to utilize it. NOW....... Its been made too easy for the general public. There ought to be a required class or something :)

Ive only been vaping for two months, and feel that I am quite knowledgeable with what ive gathered so far, but at the same rate I've spent at minimum 40hrs during that time reading up on safety and gathering various data about what it available now. You are right... its only a matter of time before someone watches this video and tries it on an 18650 mod with 30 amp battery and blows their jaw off:

The Biggest Vape!! - Nano Coil @ 152 Watts!!! Hu…: http://youtu.be/vs4IQK4clF8

The lowest ohm coil theory allows for on the 26650 limn battery is .07 ohms. And in reality that would be extremely dangerous as there is no headroom for extra amp drain. Even with the .09 above, there is WAY too much psossibility of error. I see guys come into vape shops that buy a mech mod, and the owners build them their first coil. Why the hell would you recommend a mech mod to someone with ZERO experience?! If that thing were to short. Who the hell knows what could happen to the newb

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Everything in life will have bad news associated with it. The noobs will figure it out just like you and me did. Me starting with a DNA device or a Provari or an Ego really would have made no difference. But then again, I understand ohms law and have a lot of experience with batteries. However there was a time when I did not, and I leaned on others to help and did my research. If they don't put the initiative in to learn then that is their problem.

I started with 5 and 6 cell LiPos running brushless RC cars and trucks, those batteries are a LOT more scary than these IMR ones we mess with.

Wow, 5 & 6 cell lip's in cars. You must have been running 1/8 scale. I've seen plenty of melt downs racing 1/8 scale yet none of them have exploded. Fires yes, but no explosions. I have a few rc airplanes that use 5 cell lipos. The batteries never scared me mainly because I've been into rc cars and airplanes for the last 25 years and have a great deal of experience and knowledge when dealing with batteries. I believe lipo's get a bad rap because of lack of the users knowledge and experience. Once again, this is just my opinion.
 

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Personally, I disagree. The knowledge it takes to understand vaporizers is remedial at best. All these things do is heat a coil which makes them one of the most simple electronic devices you can find. You really don't need a strong understanding of Ohm's law, a very simple concept a high school student can understand, to be safe (just download an app on your phone really). Me for example, I started with drippers on mechanical mods mainly because I have the experience and education to understand this simple concept. This is just my opinion and while yours does have its merit, I just see it a different way and that's cool too.

Some of us have that ability to figure it out quickly, but believe me. Somr of the people that I see going into the vape stores have no idea what so ever, and I find that scary at best.

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Ive only been vaping for two months, and feel that I am quite knowledgeable with what ive gathered so far, but at the same rate I've spent at minimum 40hrs during that time reading up on safety and gathering various data about what it available now. You are right... its only a matter of time before someone watches this video and tries it on an 18650 mod with 30 amp battery and blows their jaw off:

The Biggest Vape!! - Nano Coil @ 152 Watts!!! Hu…: The Biggest Vape!! - Nano Coil @ 152 Watts!!! Huge Vape!!! Cloud Chasing Dream!! - YouTube

The lowest ohm coil theory allows for on the 26650 limn battery is .07 ohms. And in reality that would be extremely dangerous as there is no headroom for extra amp drain. Even with the .09 above, there is WAY too much psossibility of error. I see guys come into vape shops that buy a mech mod, and the owners build them their first coil. Why the hell would you recommend a mech mod to someone with ZERO experience?! If that thing were to short. Who the hell knows what could happen to the newb

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FYI, when you see a Sony VTC5 advertised as a 30 amp battery this is a continuous current rating. This means you can draw 30 amps continuous until the battery is dead. On the other hand, a burst current rating can significantly exceed the continuous rating allowing a larger amp draw for short periods of time. Even if you overdraw the battery for extended periods of time, the battery will usually just swell. Seldom is there an explosion. Explosions usually happen during overcharging or over discharging(dropping voltage too low). It's not quite as sensitive as most people believe.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks that waaaay too many noobs, that don't have any business messing with rebuilding and 30 watt APVs are jumping the learning curve. I see a LOT of post from people that clearly have no clue about battery/mod safety, setting up the vape community for big headlines about bad news. Just a few years ago circumstances required users to learn about the tech in order to utilize it. NOW....... Its been made too easy for the general public. There ought to be a required class or something :)

I think you have a regulated device confused with a mech mod.
But being that you are a hardened vaping expert I am sure you realized that after posted and will surely come back to edit your post after you finish teaching your class about vaping
 

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FYI, when you see a Sony VTC5 advertised as a 30 amp battery this is a continuous current rating. This means you can draw 30 amps continuous until the battery is dead. On the other hand, a burst current rating can significantly exceed the continuous rating allowing a larger amp draw for short periods of time. Even if you overdraw the battery for extended periods of time, the battery will usually just swell. Seldom is there an explosion. Explosions usually happen during overcharging or over discharging(dropping voltage too low). It's not quite as sensitive as most people believe.

Thx for the info on the swelling :) that leads to my other point. Some ppl dont understand what is meant by burst rating...

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FYI, when you see a Sony VTC5 advertised as a 30 amp battery this is a continuous current rating. This means you can draw 30 amps continuous until the battery is dead. On the other hand, a burst current rating can significantly exceed the continuous rating allowing a larger amp draw for short periods of time. Even if you overdraw the battery for extended periods of time, the battery will usually just swell. Seldom is there an explosion. Explosions usually happen during overcharging or over discharging(dropping voltage too low). It's not quite as sensitive as most people believe.

I guess this is also why mfgs put vent holes in these things. Even significant swelling could potentially result in an exploding tube of ss If the pressure builds up enough and can't stabilize. Having a vent hole the worst that would happen is batt leakage. I do think these things are a lot safer now than before, but there is still always potential risk... even for those with experience, as there are many factors that could surprise someone at any given moment.

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I guess this is also why mfgs put vent holes in these things. Even significant swelling could potentially result in an exploding tube of ss If the pressure builds up enough and can't stabilize. Having a vent hole the worst that would happen is batt leakage. I do think these things are a lot safer now than before, but there is still always potential risk... even for those with experience, as there are many factors that could surprise someone at any given moment.

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Yeah, definitely what vent holes are for. It would probably just blow the top cap/button off the tube and scare the crap out of you. I've had 7.4 volt Nimh battery packs dead short and explode in my hand....scared me, but that's it.
 

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Yeah, definitely what vent holes are for. It would probably just blow the top cap/button off the tube and scare the crap out of you. I've had 7.4 volt Nimh battery packs dead short and explode in my hand....scared me, but that's it.

You are lucky like me. I had a firecracker go off in my hand as I was throwing it. Fortunatly my hand was mostly open at that moment, and caused some sub dermal bleeding on my thumb. It took me about a minute just to get my bearings after it went off... needless to say, I haven't played with fireworks since.

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