Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

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Not entirely correct, at least for me. They totally ignored refunding me for a long time, when they did do a refund they refunded only 1 mod not 2 that I had purchased. Doing a charge back in my case I would not call freaking out. They had their chance and now I have my money :)

Never said everyone. But if you look back even in this thread, people screaming charge back the day after it the suit was filed.
 

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Never said everyone. But if you look back even in this thread, people screaming charge back the day after it the suit was filed.

I'm fully aware of what happened through out the thread. People don't have crystal balls and when .... hits the fan, taking the suck it up attitude is totally up to the individual. Not sure where you're going with this really. It's all about choices. :2c:
 

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I'm fully aware of what happened through out the thread. People don't have crystal balls and when .... hits the fan, taking the suck it up attitude is totally up to the individual. Not sure where you're going with this really. It's all about choices. :2c:

Not going anywhere just putting out facts. Not taking up for Illvapes either or anybody else but when so many (not just on the forums) jump into preorders that are not willing to wait, as seen here early in this thread, it's going to hurt all of us in the long run. Probably be best if nobody did preorders.


I was ready to do the CB if I had to. That's why I use a credit card so I don't have to freakout.
 

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Not going anywhere just putting out facts. Not taking up for Illvapes either or anybody else but when so many (not just on the forums) jump into preorders that are not willing to wait, as seen here early in this thread, it's going to hurt all of us in the long run. Probably be best if nobody did preorders.


I was ready to do the CB if I had to. That's why I use a credit card so I don't have to freakout.
This was definitely not my first pre order, waiting under normal circumstances is OK with me. However the chain of events with Illvapes was just shall we say not the norm. I've had a CC since 1990 nothing new there. LOL :toast:
 

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This was definitely not my first pre order, waiting under normal circumstances is OK with me. However the chain of events with Illvapes was just shall we say not the norm. I've had a CC since 1990 nothing new there. LOL :toast:

This was my first pre order for vape things. Turned out ok.
 
I think you could also add Research and Development Costs

I'm not sure how much research they'd have. The chipset was done by a third party(Evolv). There is nothing extra to the mod, really. They didn't add anything like reverse battery protection which might have required a little more time. Honestly, if you look at the DNA30 version, they already had the DNA20 one out, so it's just a matter of moving to the next chip which is nearly identical to the DNA20. I'm sure they did a little drafting on where things would go in the box initially, but not a whole lot of research to be had there. The Hana mod is dirt simple.

Employee Costs, Insurance Costs, Employee Benefits Costs

That depends on if they really have a lot of employees. Given the slow pace with which they produce the mods, I'm not sure they have many. I'm not sure how they produce the aluminum box and color them, but one employee fitting and soldering things could probably assemble two to three per hour easily once they know what they're doing.
 

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I'm not sure how much research they'd have. The chipset was done by a third party(Evolv). There is nothing extra to the mod, really. They didn't add anything like reverse battery protection which might have required a little more time. Honestly, if you look at the DNA30 version, they already had the DNA20 one out, so it's just a matter of moving to the next chip which is nearly identical to the DNA20. I'm sure they did a little drafting on where things would go in the box initially, but not a whole lot of research to be had there. The Hana mod is dirt simple.



That depends on if they really have a lot of employees. Given the slow pace with which they produce the mods, I'm not sure they have many. I'm not sure how they produce the aluminum box and color them, but one employee fitting and soldering things could probably assemble two to three per hour easily once they know what they're doing.

Yep alot of variables we don't know so kinda hard to really say much about total production cost for hana's mods, profit margin for Hana and profit margin for the distributors that sell them...so it's really only speculation on our part I think...
 

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Not entirely correct, at least for me. They totally ignored refunding me for a long time, when they did do a refund they refunded only 1 Mod not 2 that I had purchased. Doing a charge back in my case I would not call freaking out. They had their chance and now I have my money :)
The actually told me to cancel and requested my order number to do it. NEVER GOT THE REFUND! on the 10th day I called my bank to request a CB. Still waiting on that!!!! it takes another 10 days. I requested a refund for my other one from elev8 and have yet to hear back from them. Calling my bank tomorrow for that one . I am not going to wait for a response. Done with the BS. Got mine from Wetapes on a non preorder. It works great despite the quirks. Done and Done!
 

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1. (Biochemistry) deoxyribonucleic acid; a nucleic acid that is the main constituent of the chromosomes of all organisms (except some viruses). The DNA molecule consists of two polynucleotide chains in the form of a double helix, containing phosphate and the sugar deoxyribose and linked by hydrogen bonds between the complementary bases adenine and thymine or cytosine and guanine. DNA is self-replicating, plays a central role in protein synthesis, and is responsible for the transmission of hereditary characteristics from parents to offspring. See also genetic code



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I want to see the open source 30w chip be called RNA 30. allowing for "transcription" and "mutation" as necessary. ;)

yes you can assume I have a background in biology

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The actually told me to cancel and requested my order number to do it. NEVER GOT THE REFUND! on the 10th day I called my bank to request a CB. Still waiting on that!!!! it takes another 10 days. I requested a refund for my other one from elev8 and have yet to hear back from them. Calling my bank tomorrow for that one . I am not going to wait for a response. Done with the BS. Got mine from Wetapes on a non preorder. It works great despite the quirks. Done and Done!


Call Arlind. I requested a refund and waited a week, nothing showed up. Apparently the refund never went through. Arlind called me at 1030 at night to resolve it after I inquired again. Something got screwed up. I got my refund.
 

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DNA DNA DNA, silly me, but will someone please tell me what DNA actually stands for??? Darwin?? something?? something??


We all know about the "Theory of Evolution". The theory is basically that things evolved over years and years.....

Take the word evolved and shorten it to Evolv and you have the company name that produced the first Power Regulated Mod to the vaping world.

Evolv's first device (mod) was named the Darwin. Charles Darwin was best known for his contributions to the evolutionary theory.

Darwin's theories depended on there being a way for offspring to inherit their parents' characteristics.

The DNA is an offspring of the Darwin. It has evolved from the DNA12 to the DNA20, and now to the DNA30.

The Kick and the Kick2 are DNA's used to "morph" a mechanical mod.

Night all....
 

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Call Arlind. I requested a refund and waited a week, nothing showed up. Apparently the refund never went through. Arlind called me at 1030 at night to resolve it after I inquired again. Something got screwed up. I got my refund.

I requested a refund from you original email confirmation. Also through thier site. Never got a confirmation as of yet. I'll call tomorrow. Thanks for the info.

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We all know about the "Theory of Evolution". The theory is basically that things evolved over years and years.....

Take the word evolved and shorten it to Evolv and you have the company name that produced the first Power Regulated Mod to the vaping world.

Evolv's first device (mod) was named the Darwin. Charles Darwin was best known for his contributions to the evolutionary theory.

Darwin's theories depended on there being a way for offspring to inherit their parents' characteristics.

The DNA is an offspring of the Darwin. It has evolved from the DNA12 to the DNA20, and now to the DNA30.

The Kick and the Kick2 are DNA's used to "morph" a mechanical mod.

Night all....

Thanks for this! Very informative!
 
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