What a thread! I would like to own a Provari; can't afford one! I have a Twist, and will soon have a eVic. I hope it holds up.
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I don't know. I was a looong time, heavy smoker and quit smoking with a $30 ego and a box of cartos.
You were lucky then...I smoked over 2 packs a day for 30 years and started with a KR-808a with a battery life of maybe 45 minutes. Then I found the forums here, became a vendor and used a 901 for 6 months before going back to analogs full time. Technology just hadnt caught up to my habit yet.
A year or so later I tried an Ego tank after seeing rave reviews and it was a step in the right direction but I still went back to analogs a few weeks later. It wasnt until I found regulated voltage from a Provari , with the ease of a carto tank system and a couple of killer juices that Ive been smoke free for almost two months now, without even trying an analog.
Also people use the term "heavy smoker" very casually around here. a pack a day might what you call a heavy smoker, obviously everyones going to be different.Thats why we need to ask questions and not assume they are cheap, or want the best etc etc.
My point still stands that Id rather offer someone more of a pv than they need then not enough.
the car analogy doesn't make any sense. cars cost thousands of dollars, the difference between buying twists (especially non joytech ones) and a provari is far from a thousand dollars.
i started with the ego c-twist and clearos, then go a lava tube and a vivi nova. then got a provari and phiniac tank, now im basically using a hybrid and the provari w/ genesis clone.
if someone told me to get a provari off the bat i would have saved myself a lot of time and money. its also far far far from the most expensive. just look at the classifieds and youll find 10 threads on page 1 that are more expensive. imo there is no good middle of the road option either. the vmax and lavatube / LT rider/ yj / clones are all inaccurate. they feel cheap because they are cheap. they seem to have constant problems with them. im glad i got rid of mine. the threads are bad, the batteries they come with are cheap, the chargers are scary. telling someone to get some cheaper middle of the road option would just turn them off from better things later, or just cost them extra in the long run.
if money is an issue, then its clearly not right to just shove provari down their throats. however, for the money i still think its one of the best devices ive used. the quality is 2nd to none, it has a great warranty that all the new Vrms and VW chinese units do not share. they stand behind their product and fix your problems. good luck with the chinese stuff. hell, look at the coop for the sigilei (sp?) zmax...the screens are crooked, the center pins fall out, they have holes in the middle so the juice can leak into your electronic area...the coop organizers are doing R&D and QA work for the company that makes them essentially. give me a break, id rather tell them to save their money than get those. VW isn't always the answer either, just as you change voltage to get to the right point for each juice and atty you use, youll do the same for wattage. my friend got a vamo, it literally feels like a toy. at coop prices, it may be ok to try one, however retail, some of those devices are over $100. at that point, i dont see a good enough reason to not recommend a provari.
ps mercedes dont hold value at all.
OK, I wanted to read the whole thread to get an idea of a composed response before I posted. I still can't find anything in either direction to sway a new user in either direction. Here is my story.
I was tired of feeling like hot garbage from the 2+packs of cigs I was smoking every day. They had been ruining my life for over 22years. I "heard" about ecigs from a vaper who had to quit smoking after LUNG failure....... so I called a few local tobacco shops in my area and Low-and-behold One had an ecig kit..... Drove to this shop plunked down my $85 and I went home ready to change my life. Read the instructions, charged the battery overnight. I even got 10 cartridges..... Now this kit contained a single RN4081 battery , a single atomizer and 10 carts(@11mg) I used this single battery kit for almost 3months before I grew tired of waiting for my battery to charge and I could get my vape on........ Those three months SUCKED..... I wanted to find a better way, a better battery, a better system and armed with (a dangerous)amount of knowledge I began doing research on the internet. I fumbled through so many ads and waded through so many"1 cartridge = 1pack of cigs"crap I thought I was going senile...... I then stumbled Into the ECF. I read,read,read finally a resource for exactly what I wanted to know. I then (from all my reading) decided to get a "genuine Joye 510" kit..for a mere $64...they where (at that time) considered one of the best analog sized units available... That was exactly the same aggrevation as the first kit. Except I now had 2 batteries that where always in need of charging and my then favorite flavor(only option)couldnt be found in any bottle liquid. Keep in mind I am now almost five months away from analogs, In frustration I returned to the ECF. I join the Community, post a few questions, read more, get opinions find a close enough Vendor who has a storefront I can walk in and try my next PV. I leave his place with Two eGo class devices(4v) models none the less, with LR atomizers for under $80, and a few tasty bottles of liquid. Myself and my wife used these two kits for the next year, no frustration, no regrets. Needless to say I found what I had been missing for all those months prior. I still buy all my supplies from this vendor, Everything.
I (and she) have moved on from the eGo sized batteries to Okr-t6 vv mods(that I built myself) as a member of This great Forum had enlightened me to almost eight months ago. Mine uses a pair of AW 18490 batteries, and hers uses the 14500 sized batteries. They can be adjusted from 3.2v-6.5v, and will run a 1Ω coil on my Chid RBA all the way up to 6.5v..... and will run on a single charge from 8am to 1am without so much as a blink, flash or "failure code"....no they didnt cost as much as a Provari(~$40 in parts)..... No they are not machined billett stainless steel But they are what keeps me happy.
I could have purchased two Provari for the price of all the not so great products that I was lead toward by maliciously improper advertising, shady marketing and outright falsehoods. I have a principle that I carry myself upon, If I didn't like it, I wouldn't advise somone else try it.... No I have never advised a noob to go straight for the hand made, custom built mod that I use. I have Not once considered telling a New User to consider a Genesis atomizer. If somone asks about a certain model, we talk about that model what its limits are and also if there is a better option within the same limits they have set for themselves. If somone asks about a choice option, we talk about the differences in those choices. This Place can be Helpful to soo many people who want to change Their lifestyle, IF We take the time to find out Exactly what that persons needs are, and do our best to provide them with all the information that we have garnered throughout our Personal Vaping Journey.
"Just get a Provari" makes You look like little more than an impetulant yuppie wanting to impress somone, rather than making an attempt to be involved and helpful.......From my perspective.
I was tired of feeling like hot garbage from the 2+packs of cigs I was smoking every day. They had been ruining my life for over 22years. I "heard" about ecigs from a vaper who had to quit smoking after LUNG failure....... so I called a few local tobacco shops in my area and Low-and-behold One had an ecig kit..... Drove to this shop plunked down my $85 and I went home ready to change my life. Read the instructions, charged the battery overnight. I even got 10 cartridges..... Now this kit contained a single RN4081 battery , a single atomizer and 10 carts(@11mg) I used this single battery kit for almost 3months before I grew tired of waiting for my battery to charge and I could get my vape on........ Those three months SUCKED..... I wanted to find a better way, a better battery, a better system and armed with (a dangerous)amount of knowledge I began doing research on the internet. I fumbled through so many ads and waded through so many"1 cartridge = 1pack of cigs"crap I thought I was going senile...... I then stumbled Into the ECF. I read,read,read finally a resource for exactly what I wanted to know. I then (from all my reading) decided to get a "genuine Joye 510" kit..for a mere $64...they where (at that time) considered one of the best analog sized units available... That was exactly the same aggrevation as the first kit. Except I now had 2 batteries that where always in need of charging and my then favorite flavor(only option)couldnt be found in any bottle liquid. Keep in mind I am now almost five months away from analogs, In frustration I returned to the ECF. I join the Community, post a few questions, read more, get opinions find a close enough Vendor who has a storefront I can walk in and try my next PV. I leave his place with Two eGo class devices(4v) models none the less, with LR atomizers for under $80, and a few tasty bottles of liquid. Myself and my wife used these two kits for the next year, no frustration, no regrets. Needless to say I found what I had been missing for all those months prior. I still buy all my supplies from this vendor, Everything.
I (and she) have moved on from the eGo sized batteries to Okr-t6 vv mods(that I built myself) as a member of This great Forum had enlightened me to almost eight months ago. Mine uses a pair of AW 18490 batteries, and hers uses the 14500 sized batteries. They can be adjusted from 3.2v-6.5v, and will run a 1Ω coil on my Chid RBA all the way up to 6.5v..... and will run on a single charge from 8am to 1am without so much as a blink, flash or "failure code"....no they didnt cost as much as a Provari(~$40 in parts)..... No they are not machined billett stainless steel But they are what keeps me happy.
I could have purchased two Provari for the price of all the not so great products that I was lead toward by maliciously improper advertising, shady marketing and outright falsehoods. I have a principle that I carry myself upon, If I didn't like it, I wouldn't advise somone else try it.... No I have never advised a noob to go straight for the hand made, custom built mod that I use. I have Not once considered telling a New User to consider a Genesis atomizer. If somone asks about a certain model, we talk about that model what its limits are and also if there is a better option within the same limits they have set for themselves. If somone asks about a choice option, we talk about the differences in those choices. This Place can be Helpful to soo many people who want to change Their lifestyle, IF We take the time to find out Exactly what that persons needs are, and do our best to provide them with all the information that we have garnered throughout our Personal Vaping Journey.
"Just get a Provari" makes You look like little more than an impetulant yuppie wanting to impress somone, rather than making an attempt to be involved and helpful.......From my perspective.
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I think a lot of us are in that same boat.I spent 400-500 bucks before I found something that worked for me.I think it also explains why the Volcano booth at Vaper-con was empty most of the time while everyone else was packed.
Here is the point though. Your telling someone to go out and buy the best pair of jeans because it will save them money in the long run, when they don't even own a pair of jeans at the moment. It makes absolutely no sense to recommend a $300 pair of jeans to someone on a $50 budget.
I paid $245 for my provari. Black green LED. Ordered the first day the green LED was available. Got the extension cap, charger and two aw IMR 18650s. I'm into my entire vaping career without the provari $250. And how many of those $250 worth of PVs do I use? ZERO. If someone would have told me about the provari when I first started I would have saved $250. I am a firm believer of you get what you pay for am I am very satisfied with my purchase. I have friends with kicked SBs or Vmax. But I prefer my provari. So when someone asks my opinion on an APV in the price range I'll say provari. It's only $180 base. So yes call me a fanboy. I don't care. But if I had the money I would buy the next Darwin up for sale. Or any zen. Hell even an iHybrid. So I believe there is better out there. But I will proudly recommend a provari any day.
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I will have to say a Provari is not for everyone, but I wouldn't have known about it if it weren't mentioned. I also have to add that there have been numerous suggestions for other devices that aren't cheap. A GG comes to mind.
i started vaping in 09,,first with an envy then blu when it came out and many other 401 etc etc
last summer when i found the ego and ,at the time the the by far cheapest VV mod on the market,,the madvapes VV box mod ,,35 bucks then
i finally found a set up [2] the did the trick for me,,,i then started upgrading and selling mods left and right trying to find something that was "perfect"..the money i lost re-selling mods i could have bought a new provari and been done looking,,when i finally did buy one ...
i was then content,,and no longer wanted for something better ..still have and use those year and half old ego batts daily
btw,for those of you that still think the provari costs 200 bucks ?? it costs 159 new !!
you can't do your own warranty of a 50 china cheapy mod four times .
last summer when i found the ego and ,at the time the the by far cheapest VV mod on the market,,the madvapes VV box mod ,,35 bucks then
i finally found a set up [2] the did the trick for me,,,i then started upgrading and selling mods left and right trying to find something that was "perfect"..the money i lost re-selling mods i could have bought a new provari and been done looking,,when i finally did buy one ...
i was then content,,and no longer wanted for something better ..still have and use those year and half old ego batts daily
btw,for those of you that still think the provari costs 200 bucks ?? it costs 159 new !!
you can't do your own warranty of a 50 china cheapy mod four times .
Depends on who it is running around with no pants on
I seriously try not to recommend a Provari to someone whos obviously hurting for cash or trying to stay within a tight budget. Smoktek has a nice starter kit with an 1100Mah battery, ce-4 clearo and a charger for 22 dollars that I often recommend.Just a reminder on what the thread was about.
just put the word "provari" in the subject line and the haters come crawling out the woodwork........every dam time !!
Provari is the Cadillac of PVs. Egos are the Hondas. Blus are the metro. And any hybrid style PV is the Ferrari. All pretty much based on price. Look at buying PVs like buying a car. Find the one which the options you want in your price range. And if prestige and and things of that factor in just try to buy a Darwin. Very rare and hard to find
It has nothing to do with hating anything and everything to do with not reading the person's post and trying to understand what a person is asking. There were two new people today with battery issues. They were told to throw their battery away and get an "xyz".
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