Attn: Los angeles, ca

[Lisa Belle]

What it will take to change outcomes like this is hard to stomach, this country has reached a point where people will have to risk all to regain the freedom and Constitutional Rights that are almost non-existant, it may be a global rebellion... or we cave and frightenly it will get much worse. The health police aren't going to stop unless we stop them.

 

[LDS714]

I doubt it makes the slightest bit of difference what we call it--it still "looks" like smoking to the City Council of Los Angeles. It was pointed out that were it later discovered that vaping is harmless, it still looks like smoking, and thus they'd ban it anyway. My words, here, but that was the essence of what I read in the LA Times.

That sounds like something else we're doing as a nation - not allowing Middle Eastern looking people on airplanes because of 9/11.

Oh, wait...

That's called profiling and is illegal...

So let me see if I understand. Vapers get less courtesy? And this profiling is legal?

 

[Lisa Belle]

LOS ANGELES born there 1953, lived there till 1971, moved to San Francisco, then midwest in 1990. I am disgusted as most of us are. If I was there now, I would MARCH

 

[Docliv]

Hi All,

Oh No!!

Los Angeles City Council approves e-cigarette ban | Reuters

 

[Coelli]

The LA Vapers Club has cancelled the monthly meet this Saturday to join IAMPROOF and others at Pershing Square for a rally... Will try to post more details when I'm not using my phone.

 

[MetalMaster75]

The LA Vapers Club has cancelled the monthly meet this Saturday to join IAMPROOF and others at Pershing Square for a rally... Will try to post more details when I'm not using my phone.

That sounds good.

 

[navigator2011]

That sounds like something else we're doing as a nation - not allowing Middle Eastern looking people on airplanes because of 9/11.

Oh, wait...

That's called profiling and is illegal...

So let me see if I understand. Vapers get less courtesy? And this profiling is legal?

It appears that legality is no issue--when there's an obstacle to one's goals, just redefine the meanings of all the words until the desired result is achieved. Can hardly wait to see this applied to issues bigger than vaping.

 

[MetalMaster75]

Some more bad news for Californians.
On February 22, 2014, California State senator Corbett, introduced SB 648, to amend the current legislation to include bans and restrictions on e-cigarettes. This bill would extend the current restrictions and prohibitions against the smoking of tobacco products to include e-cigarettes.
Bill Text - SB-648 Electronic cigarettes: restriction of use and advertising.

 

[navigator2011]

So they want to nail us for $250 a pop for vaping in an outdoor park. I am so thankful that I didn't become a police officer--today, it's like being a uniformed nanny. Just embarrassing, at best.

 

[Coelli]

Here's the rally info:

 

[soba1]

So they want to nail us for $250 a pop for vaping in an outdoor park. I am so thankful that I didn't become a police officer--today, it's like being a uniformed nanny. Just embarrassing, at best.

Its going to be a hard law to inforce, I don't see them writing tickets for smoking cigarettes.
Sadly the opinion represents most of the mindless majority. People has lost the capacity or desire to think freely.
Most people love the fact that the govt and powers that be think for them.
Just sit back and wait til someone elses ox starts to get gored.
Like the idiotic laws being passed.
You know when local vape shops don't stand a represent then I don't feel so bad not supporting local b&m's
fwiw.

 

[soba1]

Here's the rally info:

I may try and roll, especially if there are gonna be some hot vapin chicks from the SFV single 50 and up? Its all relative; I'm in my mid 50's

 

[soba1]

Some more bad news for Californians.
On February 22, 2014, California State senator Corbett, introduced SB 648, to amend the current legislation to include bans and restrictions on e-cigarettes. This bill would extend the current restrictions and prohibitions against the smoking of tobacco products to include e-cigarettes.
Bill Text - SB-648 Electronic cigarettes: restriction of use and advertising.

AB1500 is the one to really watch for

 

[soba1]

U know what would serve these .... wipes?
If we all took up dipping snuff, spitting tobacco on the ground. Then in front of
God and everybody take that big wad of tobacco out of your mouth and just fling it when you are done. Lol
Accept it, that we all live in a society of mindless dolts, and it's not just Ca.
Its the whole country, period.

 

[MetalMaster75]

...and since I'm the bringer of bad news:
A spokeswoman for Mayor Eric Garcetti confirmed to Reuters that he would sign the measure into law in the coming days.
Los Angeles moves to ban e-cigarettes, joining NY, others | Reuters

 

[rico942]

Its going to be a hard law to inforce, I don't see them writing tickets for smoking cigarettes.

You're right, in general cops will probably only issue a citation when someone complains, which will happen more often with a ban in place ...

But I have seen armed transit cops writing tickets for smoking at the train station in Oceanside. They hide behind the vending machines when a bus pulls in from LA, then ambush anyone who lights up during the layover. Its a sure thing to get a few from every bus, at $250 a pop ...

 

[MetalMaster75]

AB1500 is the one to really watch for

I think SB-648 will gain traction based on the news from Los Angeles, since that bill addresses very similar issues. Furthermore, 648 was already heard and amended a few times since its original introduction (3/25/13). Also, SB-648 its a senate bill. On the other hand, AB-1500, an assembly bill, is dormant as of right now.

 

[MetalMaster75]

You're right, in general cops will probably only issue a citation when someone complains, which will happen more often with a ban in place ...

But I have seen armed transit cops writing tickets for smoking at the train station in Oceanside. They hide behind the vending machines when a bus pulls in from LA, then ambush anyone who lights up during the layover. Its a sure thing to get a few from every bus, at $250 a pop ...

I've seen people getting ticketed for smoking in Glendale and Pasadena. Almost got one myself in downtown Burbank. I also know a guy that went to court in Glendale after getting three tickets for smoking. He lost in court, but the judge reduced the fine by some.

 

[navigator2011]

I guess it's easier and safer to harass smokers than to deal with actual crimes in the city. What an embarrassing era to be a cop.

 

[Coelli]

I've seen people getting ticketed for smoking in Glendale and Pasadena. Almost got one myself in downtown Burbank. I also know a guy that went to court in Glendale after getting three tickets for smoking. He lost in court, but the judge reduced the fine by some.

I've vaped outside in Burbank, because I don't think they've amended their laws to include vaping yet (though I am sure that's coming too...)