Atty cleaning for dummies

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attymiser

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darianilre,

I have so many because when i first started vaping I was burning one out every few weeks. I also wanted to try other models like the 306 and LR. I can't remember the last time I lost an atty since I started cleaning them. I also stocked up just in case there was a ban. Another reason is when I travel I carry four loaded and charged so I never have to worry about topping off or charging batteries.

I recommend you get a couple more just in case. I would panic if I only had two. :ohmy:
 

tarazarr

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been vaping on the same 510 atty for 67 days.... it just burnt out last night..... I think that's above average life span for a 510 atty. All I clean mine with is hot water and maybe a vinager soak once a month....

1. get some boiling hot or close to it water and swish the 510 atty around in it for a few minutes
2. let it cool down, blow it out
3. stick it back on your battery and vape away

It's not rocket science:blush:
 

FeistyAlice

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Great tutorial, Id just add putting the attys in a bag of uncooked rice to dry them. The rice will absorb all the water. Its what you do when a piece of electronics gets wet to dry out all the nook's and cranny's.

I have done the described method and it does work well. We have bunches of extra cartos and attys for all PV's. I don't let them sit around waiting for cleaning rather clean as soon as they need it. My quick cleaning method that has been working for weeks is to soak them in a little wide top bottle of grain alcohol for a day or until I remember to take it/them out then run very hot tap water through them (we have a small 6 gallon water heater under the sink so we have to keep the temp really high {no small children here and we warn guest}), mouth blow out, run more water through them and mouth blow out. I hold them under water with some long tweezers in the non-threaded end. Then spin in an athletic sock if I have one handy and then place atty or carto in front of hot air outlet from Notebook for a few hours. Then store all in container with uncooked rice until filling or using. I'll fill about 6 cartos at a time and store the filled ones with the condoms on both ends. All are better than new after cleaning and storing this way. In two months vaping, DH and I, we are still using our original cartos/attys but they do get resting, in rice, because we have plenty of extras. We have had only two attys go bad and DH did it the first week vaping; one 510 and one 801. I can go several days with one 510 atty "chain" vaping, dripping using a mod box.

A major factor in when they need cleaning is what juices are being used. We usually use 60-80% pg but occasionally up to 100% vg with a touch of distilled water to thin it a bit; 18-30 mg.

As far as panic goes. When we started DH had only one atty for his 801. He burned it out the first week but none since then. I had to loan him half of my eGo kit and I only had two batteries. Our hours are "odd" so there were days when we ran out of battery and had to share the starter mini I had. So we don't ever want to be in that situation again. Now we have extra stuff because we are trying things out.

alice
 
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humpty

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I've found there's no need to boil the atty or soak it.
Just boil the water then pour it on top of a stood up atty, the water will slowly drain away. Do this a few times is enough.

If you can't see the glowing coils (btw, many people think the atty bridge is the coil, it isn't) it means the view is blocked
by a clogging up under the bridge. The only way to unclog it is to carefully poke out the mess with a paper clip.
 

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great method that only issue i see with using water is that its polar so that it will dissolve other polar molecules, however any non-polar substances will remain after. (polar=water, non-polar=oil, non-polar can also be a solid similar to crisco)

isopropyl is a great solvent because it can dissolve both polar and non polar however it can be reactive as either an acid or nucleophile creating new molecules of god knows what especially when heated!, same goes with ethanol (Its Organic chemistry stuff).

I wouldnt heat our atomizers in either vinegar, ethanol (vodka), or Iso-propyl alcohol. (health risk is small i think, however doing so might just make the junk stick more if it reacts with the solvent)

I may be wrong in my assumptions, if I am please let me know (ie gimme da science lingo)
~Yigs

p.s. I like it when Im wrong, makes it a learning experience justifying my ....hobbies
 

DocRokRx

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yigs-
I agree, that water by itself logically wont dissolve oily resins, how much of them there are in a dirty atty, i dont know...
However, I don't think that we have to worry about alcohols reacting with anything to create harmful substances (i also could be wrong, I haven't studied O-Chem since 2006 lol)
In my opinion, the most effective and safe way to clean would be to do your first washing in ethanol (ie- everclear) since isopropyl is more harmful to our bodies. This first washing will get rid of most polar and nonpolar dirt.
Then- use clean water for the 2nd and 3rd washings, this will take care of the rest of the polar dirt, as well as get most of the alcohol out of the atty.
I believe this was already mentioned earlier in the threat, I just wanted to assert my agreement!
peace
 

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There are many opinions on the best way to clean. I'm just giving you what works best for me. I posted this method before but have since tweaked the way I do it.

First, I own over a dozen attys, which makes this method a breeze now.

Second, I do this often (about twice a week) on every atty I own, which consists of Joye510's, Expert 510’s, LR 510’s, disposables and 306's, even if they're brand new. I found that if you start the maintenance sooner they work like new longer.

Third, I have not lost an atty since I have tweaked this method. I have been vaping almost nine months and vape very heavily. You may not need to do it as often as I do.


Here is the method I use...

Make sure the atty is cold.

Drop it in a cup of very hot water. Soak 15 min.

Blow the water out of the atty from the battery end.

Soak it again in a fresh cup of hot water, the longer the better but keep the water hot.

Blow the water out from the battery end again. Shake out any more water.

Let dry 24 hours or dry quickly using another method (hair dryer etc.).

Place the atty on a battery. DO NOT ADD CART. DO NOT ADD LIQUID.

Hold the battery button 4 seconds. You should see the coil start to glow or hear the sizzle of the deposits burning off.

Remove the atty from the battery and blow on it to cool it down.

Place the atty back on the battery and repeat the burn for 3 seconds. Remove the atty from the battery for every burn and cool it before doing it again.

Repeat the dry burn process until the coil glows quickly.

Let the atty cool then place four drops directly onto the bridge letting each drop soak in before adding another.

Attach a filled cart and take small primer puffs to get it going. After the first few good hits, top off the cart again. The atty was completely dry and will absorb the liquid quickly at first.

If you quickly get a burnt taste add 2 more drops directly onto the bridge.


How this method works...

The hot water dissolves the old liquid from the mesh wick and coil.

Drying the atty allows the coil to heat quickly during the dry burn.

The burn, burns deposits off the coil preventing build up which can eventually break the coil or cause the coil not to heat. This is the reason, I believe, it works better to do it early and often.

Do - Clean often.
Do - Soak the atty as long as you like. It's a myth that water can damage the atty. We put liquid on them all day.
Do - Dry the atty thoroughly.
Do - Rotate your attys. I always have some that have been drying for days before I perform the dry burn.

Don't - Use chemicals or solvents. I have repeatedly cleaned attys to remove a liquid flavor thinking there is no way there could be any of that flavor left and the flavor resurfaces because there was still some in the mesh. You will not be able to rinse out the chemicals completely.
Don't - let the atty get too hot when dry burning. This can melt the plastic “o” ring inside the atty and cause a really hard draw or it can blow the coil or solder points.
Don't - Dry burn without first soaking to remove the liquid. This may cause a temporary improvement but I believe you are just burning more deposits onto the coil.
Don't - Dry burn with anything other than the standard battery voltage. Higher voltage will likely blow the coil.
Don’t - use rushing water to rinse. This can damage the wick. Just soak in hot water.

I hope this method works for you as well as it does for me.









was told never to dry burn a LR????
 
this seems to be working great so far!
they are air drying now, so i have not done the dry burn yet and like lafl333 I am wondering if dry burning my LR atty is a good idea? when they are done drying i will probably skip dry burning the LR atty for now. anyway a lot of great tips here i learned a lot, thanks!
 
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This works for me......

Take your atomizer, - put it under hot water and rinse it. You dont have to do it excessively, just rinse it out over the course of 20 seconds or so.

Then blow at both ends of your atomizer till it appears dry, and you cant see it "sprays" out water on a piece of tissue.

Then insert your atomizer into any vaping device you have - THAT RUNS 3.7 VOLT (do NOT do this with higher voltage devices )- and in the case of a Jantystick, then push the button and let it hit cutoff, WHILE you blow air into the atomizer with your mouth. Do not have the filter on for this ofcourse.

Now, this will smell funny - none the less, keep a finger on your atomizer, while you do this (if it gets overly hot, let it cool down for a bit before continuing), and do it up to 4 times - till the cutoff is hit ( for those without a cutoff, thats around 12 seconds ) - keep blowing air from your mouth onto your atomizer during the entire button-pressing-stage of this.

Once youre done, you drip 5 drops of any liquid you want into the atomizer, - let it rest for a minute, then try to take a hit. If it still tastes bad, put two more drops in - if it still tastes bad, add one more drop and do this until it tastes good.

Notice: After you put in the 5 drops, after initial burn-cleaning, make sure you DO taste if its good, this varies on atomizers. Some work right there, some dont. Also make sure you dont drown your atomizer. If the taste is there, and you get almost no vape, then its almost drowned.

Once you get it going, add 2-3 drops everytime you need to redrip - or if you use carts; you know what to do.
 

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I have done burn on LR attys before but not as heavily as standard atty. About 2-3 second burn just a few times.

this seems to be working great so far!
they are air drying now, so i have not done the dry burn yet and like lafl333 I am wondering if dry burning my LR atty is a good idea? when they are done drying i will probably skip dry burning the LR atty for now. anyway a lot of great tips here i learned a lot, thanks!
 

attymiser

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will this work for a joye ego? it uses a 510 atomizer.. so i think it will work. and what is dry burning?
Yes it will work on an Ego. Dry burn is when you are holding the button down without a cart attached and no liquid in the atty. The coil heats up rapidly when there is no liquid on it and will start to glow.
 
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