Went to a local shop today to pick up some wire a new rda and such to build my first coil tonight and also to pick up something for rebuilding the pt atomizer and I asked the clerk what would be my best best as far as gauges of kanthal, I had let him know I wanted to get a variety for numerous resistance builds and also something just for the protank. He looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language and said "you don't rebuild protanks, you just buy new disposables to replace which we don't carry" I replied that I had seen some things about rebuilding them briefly on a forum. And he rebuttals with "I'm a professional, I've never heard of anyone rebuilding a protank, who are you going to listen to?" so. More or less my question is; is any of that true? Can they be properly rebuilt?
Authentic kanger protank II atomizer not rebuildable?
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I rebuild Protank and Aerotank coils with ease! Takes a little finesse and concentration but it's super simple! The come out SO MUCH BETTER than stock coils! They last longer, produce better flavor and more vapor. I'll never go back to stock coils.
Here's three protank coils I rebuilt...
And a dual coil Aerocoil turned into a single Microcoil...
Here's what a kanger coil looks like all taken apart (Everything is just fitted together, no threads)
Go back to that store and tell the guy he's full of crap and not even close to a professional!
Here's three protank coils I rebuilt...
And a dual coil Aerocoil turned into a single Microcoil...
Here's what a kanger coil looks like all taken apart (Everything is just fitted together, no threads)
Go back to that store and tell the guy he's full of crap and not even close to a professional!
What gauge wire should be used in building the protank coil? I had intended on leaving there with a variety of sizes for different uses; but was advised to get 26g kanthal and that it would be good for all my intentions ( sub ohm ranging to 1.2 ohm on rda).
Lol, obviously 'professional' means very little in this day and age.
Honestly if he had said that to me i would return the next day and show him one of the plethora of threads about successfully rebuilding PTs/PT2's/EVOD's on ECF and say "Obviously i wont be listening to you, Mr. Professional" and walk out of that store one final time.
*EDIT* also for clarification i wouldn't recommend building a PT/PT 2 head anywhere below about 1.2 ohms (some may disagree with this). Just don't like putting an excessive amount of heat near that grommet.
I watch some videos and sat down with my wire and built one in 20 minutes. I absolutely love the Protank 2 as none of my four give me one bit of grief. I have since added the Kanger adjustable air flow valves to them and made them even better. IMO they are the best Tank ever made.
Now I can build coils at 1.4 to 1.6 ohms that makes them even better. They are super easy to rebuild. Lightning Vapes even sells the seals as the odd on rips
Now I can build coils at 1.4 to 1.6 ohms that makes them even better. They are super easy to rebuild. Lightning Vapes even sells the seals as the odd on rips
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ok first yes you can rebuild the protank II coils. There not meant to be rebuilt, but we find ways to save money, and if there's a will there's a way, but YES you can rebuild them. I suggest going onto youtube and seeing how its done. That said most B&M shops don't know they can be rebuilt so that's in his defense. I do take issue with the statement, I'm a professional though. IMO a professional will find out all there is to know about the things that are in his business, its in his best interest to be informed. A professional is said to be someone who is paid to do what they do, meaning if you receive money for doing something that makes you a professional, what a crock off BS. IMO A professional is a person who Knows the business he is in and can perform the tasks required by his customers as they pertain to the business. A professional who doesn't know will offer to find out or direct you to someone who does know, again this is in his best interest.
Most B&M stores have bodies who also happen to collect a paycheck(AKA Wannabe pro's) they fell into the job looking for work not because they are in the know with what there hired for. Maybe one person will try to learn something about what there doing, the others float picking up the lingo so it sounds good when boss is around. OK I'm sorry for this post I just hate folks who don't help yet proclaim to know it all.
Most B&M stores have bodies who also happen to collect a paycheck(AKA Wannabe pro's) they fell into the job looking for work not because they are in the know with what there hired for. Maybe one person will try to learn something about what there doing, the others float picking up the lingo so it sounds good when boss is around. OK I'm sorry for this post I just hate folks who don't help yet proclaim to know it all.
Obviously, he doesn't know what he's talking about, but I would expect shops to prefer us to not rebuild them since they'd typically prefer us to buy more heads from them. My business model would focus on helping customers save money on things like that and focus on quality juices as the source of repeat business - not PT heads.
In my opinion, 30 gauge works the best for PT rebuilds.
By the way, I've taken my tool box into a local shop to teach one employee how to rebuild PT heads and another time to put a proper micro coil into an Immortalizer for the owner. At another local shop I taught them how to rebuild PT's with yarn. Yet again, at a third local shop, I spent an hour one day teaching employees about DIY. The funny thing, to me, is that I'm no expert: I've simply learned enough here on ECF and on YouTube that I often seem to know stuff that they don't.
In my opinion, 30 gauge works the best for PT rebuilds.
By the way, I've taken my tool box into a local shop to teach one employee how to rebuild PT heads and another time to put a proper micro coil into an Immortalizer for the owner. At another local shop I taught them how to rebuild PT's with yarn. Yet again, at a third local shop, I spent an hour one day teaching employees about DIY. The funny thing, to me, is that I'm no expert: I've simply learned enough here on ECF and on YouTube that I often seem to know stuff that they don't.
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I have big hands extra large glove size, I get it done even on the smallest of coils. To me it's more a dexterity thing I find as I'm getting older I'm loosing that gift. I used to be able to play guitar fretting as fast as bands like slayer. My fingers just don't want to move fast anymore and there not working as well together as they used to. Takes me a little longer to get the job done, but I damn sure make sure its done rite the first time, as I'm to damn tired to do it again.
the guy knows not what he speaks of........ he's an idiot......lol
you can rebuild a protank II coil better than factory.......
for more vapor, more flavor, less flavor, more nic, less nic, any which way you want.......
......it cant be to save money... they're not that expensive....... and by the time you get your kanthal, your ohm checker, your silica or whatever...... you'll have invested a bit of dough......... you have to be a certain type of person that likes hands on hobby sort of stuff, and the independence of knowing that if your supplier is out, you can slap one together pretty quickly......
but if you learn to rebuild them, you can even make the factory ones last longer.... when you use a darker liquid, ie tobacco.. they tend to gum up pretty quick.......... you can take them apart, take off the flavour wick, dry burn them, replace the wick with a new one, and off you go...
there is actually some guy on here, he rebuilt one with a VERTICAL coil...... he is my hero!!!
but seriously, you can rebuild, use silica or cotton or other stuff for wicks.......... all the directions, tip, caveats, etc are all within this forum
this forum is the professional, not the idiot you were talking to
...just my opinion folks
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you can rebuild a protank II coil better than factory.......
for more vapor, more flavor, less flavor, more nic, less nic, any which way you want.......
......it cant be to save money... they're not that expensive....... and by the time you get your kanthal, your ohm checker, your silica or whatever...... you'll have invested a bit of dough......... you have to be a certain type of person that likes hands on hobby sort of stuff, and the independence of knowing that if your supplier is out, you can slap one together pretty quickly......
but if you learn to rebuild them, you can even make the factory ones last longer.... when you use a darker liquid, ie tobacco.. they tend to gum up pretty quick.......... you can take them apart, take off the flavour wick, dry burn them, replace the wick with a new one, and off you go...
there is actually some guy on here, he rebuilt one with a VERTICAL coil...... he is my hero!!!
but seriously, you can rebuild, use silica or cotton or other stuff for wicks.......... all the directions, tip, caveats, etc are all within this forum
this forum is the professional, not the idiot you were talking to
...just my opinion folks
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Awesome, thanks for all of the replies. Ill hold off on trying to rebuild the protank for now I think. Im actually building a coil right now for my new patriot v2 clone. It is my very first coil build. I just finished wrapping the micro coil. Im going to try my luck first with a single coil set up. I used 26g kenthal and a 1/16th drill bit. I am getting a reading of .7 ohms, so subtracting the .1 ohm reading I should be at .6 with six wraps. Does that sound about right?
30 or 32ga Kanthal seems to be the most popular for rebuilding Protank coils. I've heard of people using 29 or 28, but allegedly the 28 is a very tight fit.
I am using 30ga myself and love it. They are such an improvement.
Going to work on that vertical chimney coil again tonight, my last two attempts were not satisfying. I love it when people but out the "I'm a professional" line. Just because you are a cook at McDonald's, it doesn't make you a Master Chef.
I am using 30ga myself and love it. They are such an improvement.
Going to work on that vertical chimney coil again tonight, my last two attempts were not satisfying. I love it when people but out the "I'm a professional" line. Just because you are a cook at McDonald's, it doesn't make you a Master Chef.
ROTFLMAO!!! :: stands up... wipes eyes.. chuckles a bit more ::
I rebuild these all the time.. have done the vertical and have even managed a dual coil in one... (ok.. so my vertical and the DC weren't that great but hey..I did it..)
If you have the time and the desire to Do It Yourself, go for it.
I use 32ga Kanthal and 2mm braided silica.
Uh..the professional says they can't be rebuilt?? Well, I am kind of embarrassed now. All this vape and plumes must be just my imagination. Damn, it seemed real. I've got to run and order some more real coils. Now what I am I going to find that's fake...I'm not married to a ravishing beauty?
Well obviously you listen to the professional - cough cough person getting paid to sell you something that they don't carry. They are always right. They do, after all, have to make a living - only selling you stuff they have in stock. (Gag.)
=> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/396220-kanger-protank-rebuild-33.html#post9844874 Yup, sure can't be done. We have been not doing it here since they came out with the separate coil and base. The truly dedicated were not rebuilding them even before the PT showed up when there was a one piece T3s coil and base. That takes real dedication to not rebuild that one.
Some vapes shops suck.
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The are not proper rebuildables, but many people rebuild them; they can be totally rebuilt, recoiled, rewicked or partially rewicked, or simply cleaned, to extend the life/useability.
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