auto vs manual

[woolgrower]

I'm really stuck on this one. Is the main con to an auto the fail when juice leaks onto the battery? If so, how much of a concern is this really? I guess the thought of having to find the button to push each time I want a hit seems like a PIA to me. Seems like manual is the most popular, I'm just trying to figure out why.

 

[Boodle]

Most of the autos have a cutoff - 5 to 8 seconds. That sounds like a long time but when you're in mid-vape and it shuts off, well that sucks. Also I'm afraid of juice getting in the battery hole and frying it. The button/manual PVs give you control of how long you vape and has sealed batteries so that juice can't leak inside. Just one vaper's opinion. YMMV.

 

[tj99959]

Pretty simple really. Do you want to control the battery, or do you want the battery to control you?

 

[woolgrower]

Pretty simple really. Do you want to control the battery, or do you want the battery to control you?

Oh tj, I'm ALL about control

 

[TomCatt]

Don't all/most of the mini/cig style batteries whether manual or auto have a cut-off? I think the main reason given for manual over auto is the 'juice in the battery'. Autos have their proponents also. I think if you're careful when filling your carts/cartos and make sure to blow out the atty/carto very good and wipe the threads off; things should go fine. I would be very careful direct dripping using an auto battery.

After a few days with my manual 510 starter kit, finding the button wasn't an issue. Like anything else, you do it often enough and it becomes second nature.

 

[Boodle]

Don't all/most of the mini/cig style batteries whether manual or auto have a cut-off? I think the main reason given for manual over auto is the 'juice in the battery'. Autos have their proponents also. I think if you're careful when filling your carts/cartos and make sure to blow out the atty/carto very good and wipe the threads off; things should go fine. I would be very careful direct dripping using an auto battery.

After a few days with my manual 510 starter kit, finding the button wasn't an issue. Like anything else, you do it often enough and it becomes second nature.

The FatBatts (Kgo) I use don't have a cutoff. I like to press the button, wait 4-5 seconds for the juice to warm then vape. Ahhhh Don't know about all the slim mini cigarette-style PVs. I used a 51Trio to start and the cutoff was around 8 seconds. It was replaced with much better equipment within a week or so.

 

[aidanpryde]

My wife's auto 510 went bad in a couple of weeks.Especially when dripping, it is easy to get juice down there.

Also, depending on how the auto works, it can go off for a variety of reasons. Wind or noise can do it. This compares with a button being pressed in a pocket though, so that can be kind of a wash.

You'll have a hard time finding Automatics in the big battery devices too, the Echo is the only one that comes to mind and that is a proprietary device all around.

 

[Alara]

I used to think the manual would be a PIA too and didn't like the look as much. Also was trying to duplicate the feel of analog at first. But I did in fact ruin several batteries because of juice leaking after I started to refill cartomizers. It's hard not to have a leak or overfill at some point. I now have both (a 4081 automatic and a go-go manual) and I like each for separate times/places/moods.

 

[woolgrower]

Thanks for the replies everyone! I'll give manuals a try!

 

[wv2win]

Most of the autos have a cutoff - 5 to 8 seconds. That sounds like a long time but when you're in mid-vape and it shuts off, well that sucks. Also I'm afraid of juice getting in the battery hole and frying it. The button/manual PVs give you control of how long you vape and has sealed batteries so that juice can't leak inside. Just one vaper's opinion. YMMV.

Good explanation. Plus with the manuals, you have complete control. You can heat the atomizer before inhaling to get a little warmer hit. Also, some autos are set off by wind and/or noise and just won't work well at all in a windy or loud enviornment.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I like the auto's much better than a manual battery. The new autos are amazing and now that they have them in larger batteries it is really great. I use the echo 1300 and have been for several months. If you use cartos that don't leak there isn't any problem with getting juice in the battery. There is zero leakage with the echo cartos so I haven't had any problems. It is great to vape hands free when you want to and vaping with an auto is much more relaxing for me. If you chain vape like me pushing the button 1,000 times a day gets old after a year or so.

 

[izabella]

Also, depending on how the auto works, it can go off for a variety of reasons. Wind or noise can do it.

I've seen this posted all over the board, but I have 3 auto batteries (2 from V4L and 1 Volt), and this has never happened to me. I take them everywhere, so plenty of wind and loud noises and whatnot.

Does that only happen with malfunctioning batteries, or with functional autos?

Is this something that may have happened with older versions of auto batteries, or have people experienced this on newer versions, too?

 

[wv2win]

I like the auto's much better than a manual battery. The new autos are amazing and now that they have them in larger batteries it is really great. I use the echo 1300 and have been for several months. If you use cartos that don't leak there isn't any problem with getting juice in the battery. There is zero leakage with the echo cartos so I haven't had any problems. It is great to vape hands free when you want to and vaping with an auto is much more relaxing for me. If you chain vape like me pushing the button 1,000 times a day gets old after a year or so.

I believe you are the big exception on ECF. From the last polls done on this topic, I believe about 90% prefer manual batteries.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I've seen this posted all over the board, but I have 3 auto batteries (2 from V4L and 1 Volt), and this has never happened to me. I take them everywhere, so plenty of wind and loud noises and whatnot.

Does that only happen with malfunctioning batteries, or with functional autos?

Is this something that may have happened with older versions of auto batteries, or have people experienced this on newer versions, too?

That was the older autos that would activate with wind and vibrations. None of the new autos turn on prematurely, manuals on the other hand can go off in your pocket and if they don't have a cutoff can heat up real quick as I've found out on several occasions.

 

[wv2win]

That was the older autos that would activate with wind and vibrations. None of the new autos turn on prematurely, manuals on the other hand can go off in your pocket and if they don't have a cutoff can heat up real quick as I've found out on several occasions.

I've been vaping on manuals for almost 3 years and never had that happen.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I believe you are the big exception on ECF. From the last polls done on this topic, I believe about 90% prefer manual batteries.

I know that most people prefer manuals but most of them haven't tried the new ones. The majority of them tried the old ones that had lots of problems and switched to manuals like I did but many veterans are trying the new autos and loving them just like myself. I use both but I prefer the auto for my main vape.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I've been vaping on manuals for almost 3 years and never had that happen.

You are probably more careful than I am but it has happened several times with me and many others. If the button is accidently depressed and you don't have a cutoff it will heat up until it burns you.

 

[dormouse]

Manuals. Many manuals are better sealed on the threaded end. Some are totally sealed. Even for ones that are not sealed, a lot more juice would have to get in to damage or kill the battery. Cartomizers are the most popular way to vape favorite juices, and if a cartomizer leaks it will leak right over where an auto battery can be damaged. With atomizers, a drip tip is useful for testing new juices and vaping less-used ones and some people like dripping as their main form of home vaping - drip tips are not recommended on auto batteries.

Manuals also make it easier to get a good hit. You can depress the button 1-2 seconds before you take your drag so vapor is already made and waiting when you start. You can drag as softly as you want since your breath is not what keeps the atty on. And manuals will not turn on accidentally in wind or vibration.

 

[XaviorPenguin]

I have an auto, just started last week. I am enjoying not pressing a button or anything. I may, when I get the hang of all of this get a manual. I will have to browse the site to see what good online vendors there are so I can get one quickly and efficiently.

 

[marlou]

I have both autos and manuals in the KR808D-1. The auto is nice because it's just so darn easy, but I worry about getting juice in the battery. So I often put a newly filled carto on a manual for a little while and then switch it to the auto. I also like the 510 tanks on either the 510 or the eGo batteries. They're both manuals but the switches are easy to use. So many choices, so little time.....