Auto or manual battery?
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Well, theoretically, any Li-Io battery is supposed to be rechargeable around 300 times. Practially, the they start to drop off before that. Plus, you can damage them, for example by leaving them always in your car that's parked in the summer sun.
Very roughly, a 510 battery will last something like three months on average. The eGos will probably last longer, but they have not been around for long enough to say for sure.
I'm using an 808 with one of each kind of battery. I definitely prefer the auto right now because I can hold it/use it the exact same way I would an analog.
As somebody else mentioned, the new auto batteries from V4L run for something like 13 seconds so drag length really isn't a problem. Unlike many, I haven't felt any particular need to do a primer puff with my auto. Sure, it takes a second to get going, but it just doesn't strike me as a big deal.
I do not dislike my manual. It isn't as comfortable, but I've only been using it for a day. I don't know if it's a V4L thing or not, but it seems to have the same cutoff as the auto. About 13 seconds of running and the light starts blinking. Not a problem, just thought I'd mention it.
In the long run I think I'll keep both kinds of batteries on hand. They aren't all that expensive, after all.
As somebody else mentioned, the new auto batteries from V4L run for something like 13 seconds so drag length really isn't a problem. Unlike many, I haven't felt any particular need to do a primer puff with my auto. Sure, it takes a second to get going, but it just doesn't strike me as a big deal.
I do not dislike my manual. It isn't as comfortable, but I've only been using it for a day. I don't know if it's a V4L thing or not, but it seems to have the same cutoff as the auto. About 13 seconds of running and the light starts blinking. Not a problem, just thought I'd mention it.
In the long run I think I'll keep both kinds of batteries on hand. They aren't all that expensive, after all.
thanks alex im just curious im ordering a 510 and over 150 euros worth of juice , batts and atty's so im just trying to figure out how much of each i need cause i wont be able to get some for quite the while ,how many attys, batteries and juice would i need to get me from now to christmas ?
i know its an odd question im a regular 15 a day smoker so realisticly i should need about 3-4 batt's but im not sure about addys or juice for 9 months XD if you could help me out that would be great
thanks . rflano
It's very hard to say, because there are people who manage to burn an atty per week, while I brought the last ones in December and still did not yet have one failure. (I even managed to revive the one that I thought was dead.)
But I don't think that 3-4 batteries would last you that long, particularly not the ordinary 510s. I'd at least consider eGos or, if you can get to those easier, I'd even consider a mod with fairly standard batteries (although a Joye 510 on a mod is an aquired taste, IMO). A USB passthrough might also be an excellent idea, if you have access to USB. Then again, those tend to last only a few months, so backup might be a good idea, too.
And juice is unpredictable as well - very many people vape around 2-3 ml a day, in various strenghts, obviously. But then, some vape less, some vape a lot more.
There are far too many variables in that question, I'm affraid. But why is it that you need to stock up like this?
But I don't think that 3-4 batteries would last you that long, particularly not the ordinary 510s. I'd at least consider eGos or, if you can get to those easier, I'd even consider a mod with fairly standard batteries (although a Joye 510 on a mod is an aquired taste, IMO). A USB passthrough might also be an excellent idea, if you have access to USB. Then again, those tend to last only a few months, so backup might be a good idea, too.
And juice is unpredictable as well - very many people vape around 2-3 ml a day, in various strenghts, obviously. But then, some vape less, some vape a lot more.
There are far too many variables in that question, I'm affraid. But why is it that you need to stock up like this?
I like the autos, myself. More like a real cig. You can hold the vaporette in your mouth - usually clamped in your teeth like a cigarillo - and just drag on it hands free. Or just hold it between your fingers without having to find and press a switch b4 you can take a hit. Overall, imho, automatics are more "realistic" in the way you use them.
I've been using a manual the last couple weeks since I started vaping. I might try an automatic when I buy some supplies next.
"...i know its an odd question im a regular 15 a day smoker so realisticly i should need about 3-4 batt's but im not sure about addys or juice for 9 months XD..."
Understand one thing when you plan: You only get 1/3 to 1/2 the nicotine per drag/puff (per the New Zealand study) from a vaporette as you do from a tar stick. The upshot of this is that, at least for a good while, you will spend more time dragging on it than you did with a cigarette. I know it is that way for me, at least. You, also, don't have the natural "time clock" to take a break that happens when a cigarette burns out and you then decide whether or not to have another. The vaporette will just keep on keepin' on until it either runs out of e-juice or the battery runs down.
I was (until 9 months ago) a pack and a half+ per day smoker and find that a 30ml bottle of juice lasts me 2 to maybe 3 weeks. I run 4ea m40x batteries and also 2ea DS501 batts in cycles throughout the day and use 2 atomizers (one for each of the 2 flavors I vape) at all times with 3 attys in reserve just in case along with the cartomizers for the KR808 series cartomizers that I refill. I have 6 chargers plugged in at the ready just for at work and the same at home. I will NOT let myself run out and have to stoop to bumming a cig from the wife! lol Under daily use, the batts are good for 2-4 months - I'd hope for 3. So, make sure you have extras. I've gone thru 8 in 9 months, though one just plain broke. Make sure you have a good reserve of them if you need to go for 9 months.
Anyhow, the short story is that you may need a lot more supplies than you are thinking. Once you get acclimated to vaping, you'll have a better handle on how much you use but the thing is - if you want to totally replace ciggies - to NEVER be caught without a charged batt, working atty, and juice. I've had half a cig 2wice in the last 6 months. Half because both times, I felt like I was going to suffocate and couldn't imagine how I could have shotgunned 3-4 in a chain during smoke breaks at work.
Good luck!
Understand one thing when you plan: You only get 1/3 to 1/2 the nicotine per drag/puff (per the New Zealand study) from a vaporette as you do from a tar stick. The upshot of this is that, at least for a good while, you will spend more time dragging on it than you did with a cigarette. I know it is that way for me, at least. You, also, don't have the natural "time clock" to take a break that happens when a cigarette burns out and you then decide whether or not to have another. The vaporette will just keep on keepin' on until it either runs out of e-juice or the battery runs down.
I was (until 9 months ago) a pack and a half+ per day smoker and find that a 30ml bottle of juice lasts me 2 to maybe 3 weeks. I run 4ea m40x batteries and also 2ea DS501 batts in cycles throughout the day and use 2 atomizers (one for each of the 2 flavors I vape) at all times with 3 attys in reserve just in case along with the cartomizers for the KR808 series cartomizers that I refill. I have 6 chargers plugged in at the ready just for at work and the same at home. I will NOT let myself run out and have to stoop to bumming a cig from the wife! lol Under daily use, the batts are good for 2-4 months - I'd hope for 3. So, make sure you have extras. I've gone thru 8 in 9 months, though one just plain broke. Make sure you have a good reserve of them if you need to go for 9 months.
Anyhow, the short story is that you may need a lot more supplies than you are thinking. Once you get acclimated to vaping, you'll have a better handle on how much you use but the thing is - if you want to totally replace ciggies - to NEVER be caught without a charged batt, working atty, and juice. I've had half a cig 2wice in the last 6 months. Half because both times, I felt like I was going to suffocate and couldn't imagine how I could have shotgunned 3-4 in a chain during smoke breaks at work.
Good luck!
I have both manual and automatic batteries and use them at different times. The manual is handy as I think it last longer (personal experience) than the automatic I have. The automatic is what I generally use when driving because I find it easier to work with than worrying about which side of the e-cigarette the button is on. I would say it is situation dependent and it is not a bad idea to have a few of both.
haha so basicly im ....ed
i will buy as much as i can and see how far i get with it thanks for the helpYou will probably do better than I have. When I smoked, I chainsmoked like a freaken freight train and now that I vape, well, I vape like a....er....vapor train?
Heaven Gifts (heaven-gifts.com) is about the cheapest for batts and attys that I've found. Atomizers last a good while if you soak them in alchohol and then boil them in water maybe once a week. The same with refillable cartridges and cartomizers - a good practice to have a regimen of "germ warfare", ya know? I switch between 2 attys every day. One soaks in alc. overnight and then in water during the day while the other is being used. As long as you don't use a pass-thru or run an m40x series atty with a higher loaded-voltage battery like a KR808D series battery, they shouldn't burn out often. The trick is to try to keep the heating element from drying out and accumulating a buildup of hardened e-juice gunk.
With the batts, try to recharge them as soon as the hit starts to get light rather than waiting for the blinking LED to tell you they are fully discharged. The batts last a whole lot longer if they aren't fully discharged much/often. Also, don't leave them in the charger for too long after the LED turns solidly green as overcharging isn't good for them, either.
If you smoking habit wasn't too excessive, like mine was, you might do ok with 4-6 batts and the same number of attys. And juice would last you much longer, too. Stick with it - in a few months you won't know how you ever tolerated tobacco smoke in the first place!
Heaven Gifts (heaven-gifts.com) is about the cheapest for batts and attys that I've found. Atomizers last a good while if you soak them in alchohol and then boil them in water maybe once a week. The same with refillable cartridges and cartomizers - a good practice to have a regimen of "germ warfare", ya know? I switch between 2 attys every day. One soaks in alc. overnight and then in water during the day while the other is being used. As long as you don't use a pass-thru or run an m40x series atty with a higher loaded-voltage battery like a KR808D series battery, they shouldn't burn out often. The trick is to try to keep the heating element from drying out and accumulating a buildup of hardened e-juice gunk.
With the batts, try to recharge them as soon as the hit starts to get light rather than waiting for the blinking LED to tell you they are fully discharged. The batts last a whole lot longer if they aren't fully discharged much/often. Also, don't leave them in the charger for too long after the LED turns solidly green as overcharging isn't good for them, either.
If you smoking habit wasn't too excessive, like mine was, you might do ok with 4-6 batts and the same number of attys. And juice would last you much longer, too. Stick with it - in a few months you won't know how you ever tolerated tobacco smoke in the first place!
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I have both. My auto does not go off with noise and wind but a lot of them do. I still smoke my manual a lot more. I thought I would hate it but it was easy to get used to.
You will probably do better than I have. When I smoked, I chainsmoked like a freaken freight train and now that I vape, well, I vape like a....er....vapor train?
Heaven Gifts (heaven-gifts.com) is about the cheapest for batts and attys that I've found. Atomizers last a good while if you soak them in alchohol and then boil them in water maybe once a week. The same with refillable cartridges and cartomizers - a good practice to have a regimen of "germ warfare", ya know? I switch between 2 attys every day. One soaks in alc. overnight and then in water during the day while the other is being used. As long as you don't use a pass-thru or run an m40x series atty with a higher loaded-voltage battery like a KR808D series battery, they shouldn't burn out often. The trick is to try to keep the heating element from drying out and accumulating a buildup of hardened e-juice gunk.
With the batts, try to recharge them as soon as the hit starts to get light rather than waiting for the blinking LED to tell you they are fully discharged. The batts last a whole lot longer if they aren't fully discharged much/often. Also, don't leave them in the charger for too long after the LED turns solidly green as overcharging isn't good for them, either.
If you smoking habit wasn't too excessive, like mine was, you might do ok with 4-6 batts and the same number of attys. And juice would last you much longer, too. Stick with it - in a few months you won't know how you ever tolerated tobacco smoke in the first place!
i see . thanks for the info
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