Yes sir, thats the direct representative right there.
Ah I know, I just didn't get a chance to edit the initial post heh I am interested in these Limn, apparently so is the forum
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I ordred 2 of the LiMN ones and they will be here tomorrow. I'll let you know how they compare to the AW Li-ion ones I'm using now. I'm getting great performace from the Li-ion ones with the Chameleon. I just have to see what all the hoopla is about LOL
I received my AW LiMN batteries today. Charged them up and stuck one in the Chameleon. It DOES have a slight bit more kick than the AW Li-ion battery, but do not think I'd compare it to 5 volt vaping. So not quite sure what all the hoopla is about. At first I didn't think the LiMN lasted as long as the Li-ion but I put the one I'm using now in, over 5 hours ago and I've been hitting on it pretty good and it's still going.
Personally I think that AW batteries are just better, whether it's the normal Li-ion or the new LiMN ones. Both are protected and both perform exceptionally well.
Personally I think that AW batteries are just better, whether it's the normal Li-ion or the new LiMN ones. Both are protected and both perform exceptionally well.
I haven't really followed all the battery talk recently so bear with my silly question...
Isn't the LiMN supposed to be a safer chemistry? I thought I'd read somewhere that they were slightly less likely to have a problem but if they do, it would be noticably less violent? Maybe I'm totally wrong? I'd go researching but instead, I'm headed to bed!
Isn't the LiMN supposed to be a safer chemistry? I thought I'd read somewhere that they were slightly less likely to have a problem but if they do, it would be noticably less violent? Maybe I'm totally wrong? I'd go researching but instead, I'm headed to bed!
I'm far from being an expert LOL or even know what I'm talking about, but that is my understanding as well. Safer chemistry and safe to use in series. They also appear to be protected as far as they have the extra 2mm at the top and a wire that runs from the top to the bottom under the covering like the Li-ion protected do. There are some threads where they say that because the LiMN are High Drain cells that it is like vaping at 5 volts, but I don't see it. Yes they seem to give a bit more power, but I don't think it's enough to simulate 5 volt vaping. That's just me though YMMV
OK a slight correction or an explaination if you will....
The high drain are not supposed to replicate 5V they should have more kick though...
What was happening is that with stacked CR123 batteries with certain atties *cough* 510 *cough* they weren't working because the power drain was tripping the PCB protection circuit because it was exceeding the over discharge protection..
The black AW CR123 batteries are 750mAh (at 1C I believe) which means 1 battery can push .75 Amp for 1 hour..
Now lets take a look at the power the PV actually needs.. at 3.7V and a 510 atty (2.3Ω) the power needed is 1.61A (formula for this is V/R if you're interested)...you've exceeded the maximum discharge of the battery and it'll get hot and decrease battery life and possibly trip the battery protection..
Now the high drain rating is 550mAh at 8C so in an hour continuous it'll push .55A but because of that 8C rating it is capable of pushing 8times that in 1/8 of an hour without any ill effects to the battery. so it's capable of pushing 4.4A for 7.5 min continuous...so way more than the power than we actually need...because it's capable of more than our needs it kicks more and is safer than running a battery that we're pushing past what it's max discharge should be...
So even though it's mAh rating is lower it should actually last longer because the power used is actually lower than it's max discharge where with the black labels we're above it..
Now I may be wrong as far as the discharge rating on the AW black labels and they may be 2C instead of 1C but I cant find any documentation about their C rating (edit: which I AM wrong ...they are a 2C rating which means that they could push 1.5A for 30 min continuous (which is still below the 1.61A draw we need)
EDIT: and yeah MM the LiMN are safe chemistry like LiFePo4 batteries but the C rating on the LiMN is higher too
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Well Said Drozd! I missed our great convo about medieval. 
and can't find it anywhere, did you the swords Wench were playing with on the Chameleon thread?
I just got this from the Manufacture of AW
These cells can handle high amperage and is safe to use in series / multi-cell applications. Can be charge with any LiIon battery charger with 4.2V output. They don't have a protection pcb circuit because they are considered safe chemistry. If you over discharge them, they simply die and won't burst into flames.
IMR16340 LiMN Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 550mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 1.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 8C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius
and can't find it anywhere, did you the swords Wench were playing with on the Chameleon thread?I just got this from the Manufacture of AW
These cells can handle high amperage and is safe to use in series / multi-cell applications. Can be charge with any LiIon battery charger with 4.2V output. They don't have a protection pcb circuit because they are considered safe chemistry. If you over discharge them, they simply die and won't burst into flames.
IMR16340 LiMN Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 550mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 1.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 8C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius
Thank you Drozd for the technical side I like them. They do have a bit more kick than the regular AW Li-ion batteries and the one I used last night lasted me almost 8 hours of pretty steady vaping on the Chameleon with an 801 atty. Too bad they do not come small enough for the Lazers.
I like them. They do have a bit more kick than the regular AW Li-ion batteries and the one I used last night lasted me almost 8 hours of pretty steady vaping on the Chameleon with an 801 atty. Too bad they do not come small enough for the Lazers.
Well Said Drozd! I missed our great convo about medieval.
I just got this from the Manufacture of AW
These cells can handle high amperage and is safe to use in series / multi-cell applications. Can be charge with any LiIon battery charger with 4.2V output. They don't have a protection pcb circuit because they are considered safe chemistry. If you over discharge them, they simply die and won't burst into flames.
IMR16340 LiMN Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 550mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 1.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 8C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius
Thanks...I've actually been kinda busy with trying to hussle some work and getting ready for re-enactment season...
I did see the swords...and they're alright..I'm all about simple and super functional...(my favorite is a heron mark sword currently)...
Just wanted to chime in a momant and say that I've also been working on putting together a super comprehensive battery post (I actually put part of that in another of your threads)...
And that I really really like the LiMN high drain 16340s... they're in a field of only a handful of batteries that are totally capable of handling everything we throw at them without going to a state where the amp draw exceeds the max drain rate of the battery...they're the only ones for 7.4V vaping...just like there's only 1 battery for 6V vaping...and for 3.7V it's either the high drains or just about any 18650..
Hey Isaac, thanks for taking the time with me today explaining the advantages of the AW batteries. I am so very anxious to find out what all the hoopla is around these, and I can't wait for you to get in the 18650's!
Goody you got the 10440s back in stock. Going to get some to try. I like both the AW L-ions and the AW LiMNs in the chameleon. I only vape at 3.7 so only use one at a time. Not much difference between the two, but I imagin the LiMNs really shine in series. The AW batteries all around seem better than the UltraFire and TrustFire ones.
Thanks for carrying these!!
Thanks for carrying these!!
I seen that post good sir, and that thread is now definitely sticky material. You May be pleased to know that the LiMN 14500 is in production.
Oohh When's the season starting??
Ahh you know it! Very welcome! I can't wait to use one with my preeecccioouss.Hey Isaac, thanks for taking the time with me today explaining the advantages of the AW batteries. I am so very anxious to find out what all the hoopla is around these, and I can't wait for you to get in the 18650's!
Of course! It's yours and my pleasure that we have these puppies!
The Red LiMN really are shining over here. I actually got 12.5 hours of a pure constant 8.4V in series off of them!
WHAT DID YOU DO TO YOUR AVATAR!!? lol
My week was so bad last week that my witch aged 50 years
Quite a powerful transformation spell there 8-o Hope this week is better to you.
I seen that post good sir, and that thread is now definitely sticky material. You May be pleased to know that the LiMN 14500 is in production.
Oohh When's the season starting??
I'm very pleased to hear that they're doing a 14500 LiMN...that'll open up so much that can can be used on a 14500 without overstressing it..
well it never really stops...but camping season really kicks off a few weeks ago with a week long event down in Mississippi..
Yes it is
Thank you VM, as a matter of fact so far so good
Short version... First off our business is up 50% over normal for this time of year, that's not a bad thing, just makes us really busy. DSL goes down on Tuesday, we run an online business so this is very bad. 18 hours later they finally come out to take a look and it's the modem. No replacement in stock, spent 3 days on dial up. Somewhere in there I picked up a virus on our main system. It attached itself to a major system file, set off the virus scan which removed the infected file. No problem until I went to reboot later the next day. Computer won't reboot because it's missing a major system file duh!! Another 12 hours spent trying to remember and or find out what file was missing and get it fixed. Everything got fixed and although we got 2 days behind in shipping by the time Saturday afternoon rolled around we were pretty much caught back up and on track again. Alls well that ends well Just very stressful and very little sleep, but I slept most of the rest of the weekend to make up for it. There are people with much bigger problems than mine so I actually consider myself blessed.
These IMR16340's are great!
Been using it since leaving the house this morning. Still going real strong. Was showing just under 4.2v on the multi-meter fully charged when I left. Now its showing 3.7v over 10 hours later.
Its producing more power than a fully charged std 510 batt by a good margin even after a whole bunch of use.
Been using it since leaving the house this morning. Still going real strong. Was showing just under 4.2v on the multi-meter fully charged when I left. Now its showing 3.7v over 10 hours later.
Its producing more power than a fully charged std 510 batt by a good margin even after a whole bunch of use.
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